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FCS3 Tomorrow?
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Definitely on the Snow Leopard. Apple doesn't want their new OS to be the bane of FCP users existence like Leopard was.
But I still think even after SL is out on the market, even with an update or two, we won't see FCS3 until at least late fall/early January.
I don't know if Apple can afford to wait that long. That'll make FSC2 nearly three years old and Apple, as of yet, has not done any real updates to the software (just some small bug fixes and additional codec support).
Lethal
Lethal
Agreed. Granted, it works, but they really should be ashamed at what Color for example has been this long; I expected them to upgrade some things a little sooner.
And shipping with a new OS is pretty stupid, a lot of pro's wait a long time before upgrading their OS, so demanding a bradn new SL would rule out the update for quite a lot I guess.
I suppose Quicktime X or whatever they decide to call it may be what's holding FCS3 back. If it was anywhere near ready it would have made sense to have announced it over the past couple of days.
Apple's out of the whole business of releasing software to coincide with events or conferences. Once Snow Leopard's out, look for FCS3. Quicktime X is where it's at.
irmongoose
irmongoose
Why? Color is one of the most powerful/professional apps in the bundle. It was one of the key reasons I upgraded from FCS1. Because Apple didn't skin the UI to their liking, they should be ashamed? No way.
I love the app too. But I do not think this is the kind of usability Apple wants in it's apps. It's got nothing to do with skin, it's got to do with usability and integration with the rest of the apps.
If you think it's perfect, good for you; I think it's good but still in need of an update. It's been the way it is for quite a while now.
Events/conferences aside Apple needs to be in the business of releasing updates to keep up w/its competitors. Adobe and Avid have released some very impressive updates since FCS2 came out 2 years ago. The momentum Apple built starting around FCP 4.5 has faded and 'good enough because it's cheap' doesn't cut it much anymore because both Adobe and Avid and much more competitive in the 'bang for the buck' area than they were 5 years ago.
I agree w/Reach that there is a ton of room for improvement for round-tripping between FCP and Color. IMO it's basically broken because of the ridiculous amount of hoops you have to jump through to make a "Color safe" sequence in FCP. It's like taking a vacation to an exotic island in the middle of the Pacific. Sure, the island is beautiful but getting there and back is a royal pain the butt.
Lethal
This is very true, especially since the production premium offers users Photoshop Extended, Illustrator, and Flash, plus the still industry standard After Effects. Premier Pro is surprisingly just as fluid to use as FCP, and Encore DVD just puts DVD Studio to shame.
This all for $1700 is a deal and worth the extra $400 in price.
The biggest hurdle I've come across with Color is workflow. FCP used to be touted as an app that allowed you to edit without restrictions. Not being able to (I can't find out how to do this most likely) just open a single clip in Color to tweak it is a bit of a nuisance.
If you want to import a single clip into Color you can navigate to it via the Setup room and then hit command+i to import it.
Lethal
Lethal
Yeah, they can give Color a lick of paint once they sorted out the dry rot and subsidence. It frustratingly offers so much, but can deliver so little of it because it has so many little issues.
Adobe's Production Premium bundle has stopped FCS looking such great value. It integrates brilliantly from what I've seen, and with Color, Apple has taken a comparative back-step. And not only is Avid a great editor, but the recentness of its price-drop means at the moment it has this feeling of getting real top-end stuff at fire-sale prices. Apple got a lot more people into editing and post-production, but it risks losing a sizeable chunk of them if it doesn't look to have any interest in keeping up with the pack.
Adobe's Production Premium bundle has stopped FCS looking such great value. It integrates brilliantly from what I've seen, and with Color, Apple has taken a comparative back-step. And not only is Avid a great editor, but the recentness of its price-drop means at the moment it has this feeling of getting real top-end stuff at fire-sale prices. Apple got a lot more people into editing and post-production, but it risks losing a sizeable chunk of them if it doesn't look to have any interest in keeping up with the pack.
Interesting that Shake would be getting updated. I thought that program was not going to be updated anymore.
By 'Shake' I think they mean that rumored Shake replacement known as Phenomenon that was supposedly to come out in '08.
Lethal
Lethal
Shake!
This IS interesting. It could be an embarrassment for apple. I'm afraid the industry has moved on from shake (or at least those still using it have customised the source code)
I have it from my favorite Apple source that development on Phenomenon/shake v5 has completely ceased. Don't be holding your breath for an update. Can't say any more (there's nothing else to say - phenomenon ain't happening
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This IS interesting. It could be an embarrassment for apple. I'm afraid the industry has moved on from shake (or at least those still using it have customised the source code)
I have it from my favorite Apple source that development on Phenomenon/shake v5 has completely ceased. Don't be holding your breath for an update. Can't say any more (there's nothing else to say - phenomenon ain't happening
)
So yer saying a completely unfounded, two year old rumor is not true? Really?I have it from my favorite Apple source that development on Phenomenon/shake v5 has completely ceased. Don't be holding your breath for an update. Can't say any more (there's nothing else to say - phenomenon ain't happening
Lethal
The most interesting thing about FCS3 for me would be improvements to Motion. Would love to see it evolve into an Apple version of After Effects, but with RT and better integration with FCS. (I dont think my MBP could handle either AE or Motion very well, but I'm starting to feel a little constrained by just FCP, so still planning
).
Hey fluidedge, is that the icon from badgerbadgerbadger? Funny -- that video was pretty popular with my friends and I when it came out.
-Chris
Besides Blue Ray support, what does Encore DVD have over DVD Studio Pro? I actually have both apps, but havent used Encore DVD. In DVD SP, the text always looks jagged and has stair stepping for me, but perhaps I just dont know how to use it correctly yet. Is DVD SP any better in this respect? Does it play nice with FCP/Compressor?
OK, that makes sense. And thanks for your response on the FCS3 in NAB thread (didn't want to comment there and bring it to the front).
Hey fluidedge, is that the icon from badgerbadgerbadger? Funny -- that video was pretty popular with my friends and I when it came out.
-Chris
Encore has one option (besides BluRay) that I'm really jealous of... It can export your DVD as a self-contained flash webpage.
not sure how well it works, but that's just cool.
not sure how well it works, but that's just cool.
Shake!
This IS interesting. It could be an embarrassment for apple. I'm afraid the industry has moved on from shake (or at least those still using it have customised the source code)
I have it from my favorite Apple source that development on Phenomenon/shake v5 has completely ceased. Don't be holding your breath for an update. Can't say any more (there's nothing else to say - phenomenon ain't happening
So what software package do you recommend for someone just getting into video editing for doing all the composite stuff that Shake currently offers? I was just getting ready to pull the trigger on purchasing Shake 4.1 but now I'm confused.
Thx.