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I don't see why anyone wouldn't want their phones camera to improve? Would you rather us have potato quality camera on our phones and everyone to carry a bag with 3 different SLR lenses everywhere they go?
I want it to improve, but camera bumps and ginormous phones are stupid. Make the phone 1mm thicker, get rid of the bump, shrink the footprint and add OIS to the smaller phone and bam, happy camper! :)
Where is this 2GB RAM rumor from? I'm curious.
I'd think it'd be common sense. 1GB for 3 generations? Doubtful. Especially when iOS 7 smoothness is struggling.
 
I want it to improve, but camera bumps and ginormous phones are stupid. Make the phone 1mm thicker, get rid of the bump, shrink the footprint and add OIS to the smaller phone and bam, happy camper! :)

It's really not THAT big. I think Apple is doing a good job in keeping their large phone somewhat skinnier than competition.
 
It's really not THAT big. I think Apple is doing a good job in keeping their large phone somewhat skinnier than competition.
It is that big. People will be surprised when the 6+ shows up and makes Notes look small. Apple advertising makes the 6 look like a 5 and the 6+ just a bit bigger.
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If I was gonna buy one I'd lean towards the + because of the higher specs and the full HD screen, especially if it had 2GB ram and the ois doesn't hurt either. Battery life is also a bit better all for only about $100 more seems worth it. I've never held a 5.5" device though so I'm not sure if it'd be too big. I'd have to try playing around with it and also put it in my pocket to make sure it's not too big.
 
I know you're trying to be cheeky and stuff but why would anyone want to NOT take quality pictures?

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I'm an enthusiast photographer but I will never want to carry my SLR everywhere I go... that's rather absurd. I bring my SLR to events or while traveling to pre-designated spot. I don't just have my camera bag in my car at all times.

Buying standalone point and shoot is also absurd because it'll be just another expenses to have 3 separate devices that takes pictures.

I don't see why anyone wouldn't want their phone camera to improve? Would you rather us have potato quality camera on our phones and everyone to carry a bag with 3 different SLR lenses everywhere they go?

I know OIS can be useful under certain conditions, but it's really not even close to a deal breaker. This article explains the difference between the phones in a very grounded way:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/11/6135429/iphone-6-6-plus-which-one-to-buy
 
I know OIS can be useful under certain conditions, but it's really not even close to a deal breaker. This article explains the difference between the phones in a very grounded way:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/11/6135429/iphone-6-6-plus-which-one-to-buy

Of course OIS shouldn't be used solely just to decide which phone to use and it is certainly not a deal breaker. For me, however, I've always leaned on the larger phone anyway and I welcome the addition of OIS. They will probably add that feature on 6S anyway.
 
It is that big. People will be surprised when the 6+ shows up and makes Notes look small. Apple advertising makes the 6 look like a 5 and the 6+ just a bit bigger.
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The fact that the 6+ is narrower, thinner and has rounded edges is really going to make it feel smaller than a Note I think.
 
[*] iOS 8 landscape mode

Will the landscape mode work for the Music app as well?

One of my biggest pet peeves is the album cover mode in landscape, I'd like to be able to scroll through all songs like in portrait. If that's the case, I'm even more happy with the Plus
 
No problem carrying around a note 3 for the last year. No idea what these everyday problems would be. Buy want you, be happy and stop worrying about what other people do. Why do you have to belittle something to feel better about your choice?
 
Who the hell gives a damn what phone is better? They are both excellent phones and will deliver the same fantastic user experience that iOS users enjoy. These phones are targeted for two different different user groups that will enjoy whatever device they have purchased. My wife would enjoy a 6 just as much as I will enjoy my 6+. At the end of the day, it's just a phone people.
 
I'm willing to give Apple a couple weeks of trying it out. If it doesn't work out well, I'll return it and get an iPhone 6 instead.. I have a feeling that Apple wouldn't put out a "mess" as their flagship product, however.

I'm in the group that both phones are "flagships" then he 5a is midtier and of course the 5c is the entry level phone.

A price tag of $199 and $299 makes both of them flagship phones.

So I guess what im saying is Apple two flagship phones. It is possible just as Samsung has galaxy and note. Neither one is a flagship over the other
 
It is that big. People will be surprised when the 6+ shows up and makes Notes look small. Apple advertising makes the 6 look like a 5 and the 6+ just a bit bigger.
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Make the Note look small? Look at the picture attached! The Note is barely smaller in height but is both wider and thicker. The height of a phone generally does not affect a users ability to the device. Ability to hold the device is dependent on the width and depth.
 
I think you can consolidate all of those into 3 main points. Wait, no, I'll do a iPhone 6 version now:

- 6.9mm thin
- 2/1000m less thick
- higher contrast
- deeper blacks
- richer colors
- punchy reds
- vivid blues

- smaller
- more pocketable
- easier to hold
- can use one-handed
- no thumb gymnastics
- potentially better performance from pushing less pixels
- not as many slowdowns or graphical hang-ups
- smoother gameplay
- my phone go fast

It would appear we are evenly matched, sir.
Why is this?
 
As a professional photographer I think people are downplaying the OIS. This is a huge feature for those that use the phone for a lot of pictures. It will allow you to shoot at much slower shutter speeds and still get super sharp pictures. I think it's a must if you love taking pics with the iPhone.

What are your thoughts on this?

Picking a new iPhone: there's only one decision that matters

To understand how important (or not) OIS is in a phone, it's important to understand how it actually works and what it actually does. OIS has been around in DSLR lenses and point-and-shoot cameras for over a decade, and other smartphone manufacturers have been putting it in their devices for years before Apple jumped on board. It is designed to counteract hand-shake and camera movement, by literally moving elements of the camera's lens in the opposite directions of the photographer's movements. This allows for taking sharp pictures with longer shutter speeds than would otherwise be possible. Longer shutter speeds let more light into the camera's sensor, allowing for brighter pictures in low light environments. It's long been billed as the savior for low light photography and it lets you use a really big zoom lens on your DSLR or mirrorless camera without a tripod. OIS is most effective when you have a long focal length, because that magnifies any uncontrollable movements you might have.

But, and here's the key misunderstanding with OIS, it is only able to correct for movement on the camera's side. If you have a longer shutter speed, unless your subject is inanimate and perfectly still, it's more likely that your subject will move in the time that the camera is taking the picture, causing motion blur that the OIS system can do nothing to correct for. You've seen this before, often times when you try to take a picture of a frisky pet or active toddler indoors, they move during the shot, causing a blurry limb or loss of sharpness in key areas such as the face. Having OIS in a camera does not resolve this problem, and in fact, a lot of smartphone manufacturers have exacerbated the issue by relying too heavily on the feature and holding the shutter open for longer than would otherwise be necessary. (I've personally seen this with every smartphone I've reviewed that has OIS, including models from HTC, LG, and Nokia.) And since smartphone's have wide lenses, OIS is less effective than it would be on your DSLR with a 300mm zoom lens.

The fact is, most of the pictures people take with smartphones are of other people, which are living, breathing, and yes, moving subjects. The most important factor in getting sharp pictures of people is shutter speed — it needs to be fast enough to freeze the subject.

That isn't to say the OIS feature has no purpose — it's really great for getting sharp pictures of buildings at night or those cool nighttime cityscapes. They aren't moving and will surely sit still long enough for the camera to use a longer shutter speed. OIS can also be effective for stabilizing video. It can also be argued that OIS is more effective in the iPhone 6 Plus (and possibly more necessary) than it would be in the iPhone 6 because its larger size can be more difficult to hold steady.

By all accounts, it appears that everything else about the cameras in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are the same. According to Apple, they have the same resolution, same sensors, same focus system, same lens, same flash, and same new camera processing features. They also have the same video recording features, including slow-motion, 1080p recording, and something Apple calls "Cinematic Stabilization." But in the vast majority of still photography situations, these cameras are likely to produce the exact same results.
 
Make the Note look small? Look at the picture attached! The Note is barely smaller in height but is both wider and thicker. The height of a phone generally does not affect a users ability to the device. Ability to hold the device is dependent on the width and depth.
"This device is huge" threads will be plentiful in T-Minus 6 days. That said, I'll get one if performance is better. If that happens though, chances are though, I might just switch to a G3.
What are your thoughts on this?
That article is full of opinions, and big ones. It states OIS will help stabilize the 'larger size', but in reality, larger size tends to help as humans shake more when holding small items closely. Which is why that steering wheel mount thing is so popular for cameras...a nice wide steady grip.
 
What are your thoughts on this?

Picking a new iPhone: there's only one decision that matters

To understand how important (or not) OIS is in a phone, it's important to understand how it actually works and what it actually does. OIS has been around in DSLR lenses and point-and-shoot cameras for over a decade, and other smartphone manufacturers have been putting it in their devices for years before Apple jumped on board. It is designed to counteract hand-shake and camera movement, by literally moving elements of the camera's lens in the opposite directions of the photographer's movements. This allows for taking sharp pictures with longer shutter speeds than would otherwise be possible. Longer shutter speeds let more light into the camera's sensor, allowing for brighter pictures in low light environments. It's long been billed as the savior for low light photography and it lets you use a really big zoom lens on your DSLR or mirrorless camera without a tripod. OIS is most effective when you have a long focal length, because that magnifies any uncontrollable movements you might have.

But, and here's the key misunderstanding with OIS, it is only able to correct for movement on the camera's side. If you have a longer shutter speed, unless your subject is inanimate and perfectly still, it's more likely that your subject will move in the time that the camera is taking the picture, causing motion blur that the OIS system can do nothing to correct for. You've seen this before, often times when you try to take a picture of a frisky pet or active toddler indoors, they move during the shot, causing a blurry limb or loss of sharpness in key areas such as the face. Having OIS in a camera does not resolve this problem, and in fact, a lot of smartphone manufacturers have exacerbated the issue by relying too heavily on the feature and holding the shutter open for longer than would otherwise be necessary. (I've personally seen this with every smartphone I've reviewed that has OIS, including models from HTC, LG, and Nokia.) And since smartphone's have wide lenses, OIS is less effective than it would be on your DSLR with a 300mm zoom lens.

The fact is, most of the pictures people take with smartphones are of other people, which are living, breathing, and yes, moving subjects. The most important factor in getting sharp pictures of people is shutter speed — it needs to be fast enough to freeze the subject.

That isn't to say the OIS feature has no purpose — it's really great for getting sharp pictures of buildings at night or those cool nighttime cityscapes. They aren't moving and will surely sit still long enough for the camera to use a longer shutter speed. OIS can also be effective for stabilizing video. It can also be argued that OIS is more effective in the iPhone 6 Plus (and possibly more necessary) than it would be in the iPhone 6 because its larger size can be more difficult to hold steady.

By all accounts, it appears that everything else about the cameras in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are the same. According to Apple, they have the same resolution, same sensors, same focus system, same lens, same flash, and same new camera processing features. They also have the same video recording features, including slow-motion, 1080p recording, and something Apple calls "Cinematic Stabilization." But in the vast majority of still photography situations, these cameras are likely to produce the exact same results.

That's the way cameras work... sensors are not and probably won't be anytime soon as sensitive or quick as our retinas. Any reduction of the shutter time needing to be open is a great improvement, and OIS allows this. Every little bit helps when making a great photo in the dark. That's actually where having more megapixels on a camera might help- there's more surface area for the limited light to hit. I'm slightly sad they didn't up the MP number on the camera, but the OIS will help a LOT.
 
That article is full of opinions, and big ones. It states OIS will help stabilize the 'larger size', but in reality, larger size tends to help as humans shake more when holding small items closely. Which is why that steering wheel mount thing is so popular for cameras...a nice wide steady grip.

I don't believe OIS will really make much of a difference. It might be a benefit in low light conditions. The question is though to what extent.


That's the way cameras work... sensors are not and probably won't be anytime soon as sensitive or quick as our retinas. Any reduction of the shutter time needing to be open is a great improvement, and OIS allows this. Every little bit helps when making a great photo in the dark. That's actually where having more megapixels on a camera might help- there's more surface area for the limited light to hit. I'm slightly sad they didn't up the MP number on the camera, but the OIS will help a LOT.

What? Adding more megapixels would only account for more noise in low light.
 
Considering the same A8 chip, the 6+ will probably be a little bit slow than 6 because of the higher display resolution.

Why assume the A8 is to slow for one as opposed to to fast for the other? Apples been making both for a while and would know how much power would be needed by the A8 before making it.

As a professional non-photographer I think people are up-playing the OIS. It's really a forgettable feature if you don't take tons of quality pictures.

The better cell cameras get, the more extinct point and shoot cameras get. And the more extinct point and shoot cameras get, the more important cell phone image quality gets. OIS is not a miracle technology but it helps with a variety of situations:

low light
shaking hands (my wife had to stop taking pictures because of this)
close subject (same effect as telephoto)
action photography (camera moving too)
action photography (panning)
document scanning / check deposits (I've stopped visiting the ATM)

It makes bad shots good and good shots better. And reduces the work needed for both.
 
As a professional photographer I think people are downplaying the OIS. This is a huge feature for those that use the phone for a lot of pictures. It will allow you to shoot at much slower shutter speeds and still get super sharp pictures. I think it's a must if you love taking pics with the iPhone.

This.

I will always choose the one with the better camera.

I prefer the more manageable size of 6 but the screen size of 6+ make it the must-have for me and my able to watch live in much bigger screen the glorious Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Champions League, Euro 2016 Qualifying, Ligue 1, MLS beautiful futbol games anywhere I am. :p
 
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Nah. Going to the gym? That's super casual, you only need trainers for that. You don't choose a type of phone around it.

People who're really on the go will use the larger iP6+ as it doubles as a tablet when traveling (read books when camping in long lonely treks, watch movies on planes etc), and use a GPS watch when hiking/mountaineering/cycling/ultras etc and leave the phone completely at home.

iP6+ is smaller than a phone and tablet. Which is why I gave away both iPads and am getting it. For sports and outdoors use I have a Fenix 2 which doesn't need tethered to a phone or anything ridiculous.

Agreed. The plus is much more conducive to my needs on the go for blogging and my business
 
Threads like these just serve to reinforce that all those spec-ho's that abandoned iOS for Andrpid devices have now come back home.
 
Nah. Going to the gym? That's super casual, you only need trainers for that. You don't choose a type of phone around it.



People who're really on the go will use the larger iP6+ as it doubles as a tablet when traveling (read books when camping in long lonely treks, watch movies on planes etc), and use a GPS watch when hiking/mountaineering/cycling/ultras etc and leave the phone completely at home.



iP6+ is smaller than a phone and tablet. Which is why I gave away both iPads and am getting it. For sports and outdoors use I have a Fenix 2 which doesn't need tethered to a phone or anything ridiculous.


I find this hilarious that people are selling there 9" tablets thinking a 5.5" will replace it lol
 
I find this hilarious that people are selling there 9" tablets thinking a 5.5" will replace it lol

Why's that.

Phablets are better. You can't make a call from your 9 inch tablet.

Is there a reason why a 9 inch screen is special? Id like to know what I can't do on an iP6+ that I was doing on an iPad before.
 
the only things that matter are the battery life and OIS. lol. And that doesn't justify such a large/tall phone imo. Day to day use and convenience is way more important.


6+ is for people who don't move much
6 is for people that need their phone at the gym, and are on the go moreso.


Landscape mode already exists for jailbreak so it'll be on the 6 in no time.

Seriously? I think just the opposite. I am a busy mom to six and running our family company. I go all.day.long. I bought the 6+ so I can better handle email and social media on the go. Better battery, camera, and email experience is enough reason for me to choose it over a 6.
 
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