Good, the two are better off competing against each other. I wonder if Jobs will someday drive slowly through Mountain View and weep bitterly of his lost relationship, listening to Eric Carmen. There will be resignations I am sure...
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Federal Trade Commission Investigating Apple-Google Ties
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Yeah but last time I checked, those products were leaders in their field and by including them and it actually helps makes the products better for the end user. Why isn't nobody complaining about the facebook integration in OSX, flickr, there is an option for Yahoo in safari, what about Microsoft exchange in iphone, etc. To say Google is highly integrated in OSX and iphone is just utterly ridicilous. The reason all these integrated products are there is because they are successful, Apple isn't just randomly colliding with Google on everything, they are picking Google's products which are leaders and consumers are familiar with them. This level of government intervention in these kinds of affairs are rather silly, there are bigger problems to solve.
The CEO of Google is an Apple Director. The FTC is just looking into the connections and making sure that it isn't anti-competitive. They haven't intervened yet, they're just investigating practices.
Skip the double negatives next time
That's the conclusion I came to. Really, there's a link between Apple and Google? I don't see how. Very odd.
OMG, are you really serious? Are all those Office programs and Internet Explorer terrifying you?
I'm happy, that I'm not an American, nor do I live in the US.
I would comment on this, but I'm afraid of the consequences given earlier statements on collaboration between the private and the public sectors
.In any event, as commented on by another poster, if capitalism is so good then why do rules have to be invented that prevent competition? All is fair in love in war, isn't it? M$ has had an unfair advantage for decades and the FTC does not investigate that. Quite similar to the fascist rhetoric espoused by the so-called "con$ervative$" in the US: tout that you're a Christian, but yet condemn gays and deny them the right of marriage. How hyprocrital! Jesus said the greatest commandment was love one another as you love God, along with show mercy and mercy will be shown to you.
Blah, off the soap box
tomorrow is Hump Day, yay!
I would comment on this, but I'm afraid of the consequences given earlier statements on collaboration between the private and the public sectors
In any event, as commented on by another poster, if capitalism is so good then why do rules have to be invented that prevent competition? All is fair in love in war, isn't it? M$ has had an unfair advantage for decades and the FTC does not investigate that. Quite similar to the fascist rhetoric espoused by the so-called "con$ervative$" in the US: tout that you're a Christian, but yet condemn gays and deny them the right of marriage. How hyprocrital! Jesus said the greatest commandment was love one another as you love God, along with show mercy and mercy will be shown to you.
Blah, off the soap box
The aforementioned rule in this case to insure that the two companies are competitive. Capitalism is all about free market competition, which should be supported and has been neutered for decades. In this case, two rival companies working behind the scenes to their advantage over the consumer doesn't ring with free market capitalism.
Elton John put it best when it comes to gay marriage, because not listening to EITHER side is the problem.
If two monogamous homosexual adults want the same rights as two monogamous heterosexual adults, they can have that right; civil union. For some reason, this does not satisfy the lobbyist of that movement and they want to call it marriage, even if they are already offered equal rights.
If marriage has been defined by religious groups as a sacred ceremony, whether or not other people see it that way, especially given divorce rates etc, they should be allowed to protect that definition. For the same reason the Gay Lobby wants to redefine the word, the Christian Lobby wants to oppose civil unions all together.
Political affiliation has become the new racism in this country. We work toward the same outcomes on so many things, but then someone polarizes a simple problem and hate brews.
This is why I am happy the FTC is looking into the business practices of the two companies. I will not claim either is doing wrong, this is just the investigation. They need to stay COMPETITIVE and that benefits the shareholders and the consumers. We all need to be a little more objective, and learn how to debate from both sides of an argument. You don't know someone until you've walked 100 miles in their shoes.
I'm happy, that I'm not an American, nor do I live in the US.
I am too.
TMI/wrong thread.
I think it's the Al Gore connection, being investigated. He did create "teh internets."
I'm happy, that I'm not an American, nor do I live in the US.
I am too.
TMI/wrong thread.
I think it's the Al Gore connection, being investigated. He did create "teh internets."
I just didn't want to see this becoming the wrong thread. Wouldn't want to get all the anti-americans started on some other tangent you know. I guess I'll be happy for you that you aren't Americans and don't live here
Who knows, maybe Apple and Gore's Carbon Credit Hedge Fund should be in competition and the FTC will find that in anti-trust violation. Or perhaps they'll even find Jobs to be in anti-trust violation because of Pixar making such high quality movies. I just hope they don't shine a spot light on the notorious Apple silhouette and reveal it to be something rotten...
I use the MobileMe version of Mail. However, I agree that it leaves VERY much to be desired. It's so ridiculously buggy it's not funny.
Old 1914 provision rarely enforced...hmmmm.
This smells of a shake-down by the Feds to penalize 2 successful companies that are doing well, maybe too well. Now that's change you can believe in!
This smells of a shake-down by the Feds to penalize 2 successful companies that are doing well, maybe too well. Now that's change you can believe in!
I would comment on this, but I'm afraid of the consequences given earlier statements on collaboration between the private and the public sectors
In any event, as commented on by another poster, if capitalism is so good then why do rules have to be invented that prevent competition? All is fair in love in war, isn't it? M$ has had an unfair advantage for decades and the FTC does not investigate that.
Why is capitalism so good? Look at all of the products you use everyday. Your iMac and MacBook Air are the results of capitalism. The leading innovations come from capitalistic nations such as the USA....not from socialist or communist countries.
According to your statement, you are viewing economic systems as polar systems, when nothing is that black or white. All forms of government and economic practices have regulations. You ask if all is fair in love and war, then why does Microsoft have an advantage? Your are contradicting yourself. An who's to say Microsoft has an unfair advantage? They did not just fall out of the sky an empire. They did offer the best computer software at one point and people liked their products. That's how they and all other companies earn market share. While Microsoft may be viewed as no longer as an innovating company, or as the evil M$, it allows for other companies such as Apple and Google to offer better products for Microsoft's faults. Once a company gets very large it is more than likely to lose site of routine innovation which is vital for perpetual success of a company.
How ridiculous.
Google does a great job with it's services (YouTube) and I only see it appropriate for Apple to make friends with the "big G" and integrate the general pubilc's favorite services into everyone's favorite OS. Makes sense, no?
Google does a great job with it's services (YouTube) and I only see it appropriate for Apple to make friends with the "big G" and integrate the general pubilc's favorite services into everyone's favorite OS. Makes sense, no?
Old 1914 provision rarely enforced...hmmmm.
This smells of a shake-down by the Feds to penalize 2 successful companies that are doing well, maybe too well. Now that's change you can believe in!
I will await judgement, however fishy. Given the times, your mind can't help but wander in this direction. I guess they just need to learn how to be more sharing.
I guess the regulators have to do something with all the time freed up by not investigating the criminal financial system.
First off, it's the FTC, not the FCC.
Second, I see you're a proponent of wealth redistribution. It doesn't work. Its punative by definition and is also anti-capitalist. Wealth redistribution harms businesses and people. It isn't a benefit. Besides, what wrong has Google committed in your mind to justify such judicial extortion?
Keep laughing, buddy boy. We have Eschelon, and they can listen to everything you say.I'm happy, that I'm not an American, nor do I live in the US.
First off, it's the FTC, not the FCC.
Second, I see you're a proponent of wealth redistribution. It doesn't work. Its punative by definition and is also anti-capitalist. Wealth redistribution harms businesses and people. It isn't a benefit. Besides, what wrong has Google committed in your mind to justify such judicial extortion?
Keep laughing, buddy boy. We have Eschelon, and they can listen to everything you say.
I am glad the other person sharing my sn shares my views. Just remember ECHELON was adopted by the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. They're listening, and I don't mind if they hear me.
if only we lived in a country where we could be free to operate business how we choose, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. that'll be a nice day.
I'm happy, that I'm not an American, nor do I live in the US.
If you are not American and don't live in the US, then the NSA is probably more likely to hear your phone conversation than mine.
Please this is how Big Biz is done!!
The FTC is fully aware the the CEO's of Ford, Chrysler and GM all golf together. Yet no mention that is is a problem! I won't even start on the amount of people are in-bed together in aviation!! Oh wait this is a macrumours forum...my bad!!
The FTC is fully aware the the CEO's of Ford, Chrysler and GM all golf together. Yet no mention that is is a problem! I won't even start on the amount of people are in-bed together in aviation!! Oh wait this is a macrumours forum...my bad!!
I probably trust apple even less than those companies, if there is one company that wants to lock you in wherever they can more than any other, it's apple.
This makes no sense. Google dosn't sell any products so it isn't competing with apple. Google is all about advertising. Andriod is a free os for phones made from other companies. YouTube is user submited videos. Picaso i have no clue about, but it is no iphoto. The FTC just has to go knocking on someones door, and why not apple and google. Apple buys memory from samsung who also makes a mobile phone. Why not look into that.
