Feedback App Lists iPad 'Drag and Drop' Feature Ahead of WWDC iOS 11 Preview

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They haven't reversed course on the stylus because the Pencil isn't meant for UI interaction, but for drawing.

So you are telling me that Jobs when he bashed a stylus at the iPad intro was envisioning a pencil instead? I think not. He was all about the finger being the best tool.

Okay, 1200 a year. There you go.
Is my Pencil also a point(y)ing device?!
(Serious tough, it is for me even better then a mouse, much more versatile!)

Why not allow both pencil/pen, and pointing device? ... and touch? Microsoft is showing how the three can be used together, and added a forth with the Dial. Apple wants to tie you down so that they can sell you two different devices.

This is the reason an iPad is not a laptop replacement, regardless of what people will say in these forums or Apple's convincing of the "Pro" moniker.

Exactly. At the end of the day, iOS is a smartphone OS that they keep chipping away at trying to make into a tablet OS. It will never be able to replace a laptop for some people because it can't run full function applications. No amount of these little tweaks are going to change that. As a device for someone that wants to consume media, browse the net, respond to a few emails... its fine. I fear that these tweaks to fulfill Apple's post-PC vision are going to mess that up by over-complicating something that people were attracted to because of its simplicity.
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Took them how many years for this feature? I would say 10 years.

Its a sad day when so many people are so excited about drag-n-drop and a file manager. Its 2017 people!

 

[0098386]

I haven't used a mouse in years...

Congrats! If I didn't have to use work suite apps I wouldn't need to use a mouse either

 

[Dranix]

Me neither, but trackpad support is still missing too.

Ever tried moving 2 fingers over the virtual keyboard? Build in for quite some time...

 

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I have to say that the demo of drag-n-drop during the keynote was the most awkward looking thing I've ever seen.

And how do you differentiate between copy/move/cut, etc. with this? Or what I've you change your mind after you started to drag a file... on a Mac or PC you can hit escape on the keyboard so you don't unintentionally drag it to the wrong place?

 

[derekamoss]

No, you're blind.

It sells a fraction of what Apple sells in Macs and iPads.

The iPad Pro has nothing to do with the Surface line.

Really? You think Apple would have come out with the pencil if the Surface hadn't came around?

 

[chucker23n1]

So you are telling me that Jobs when he bashed a stylus at the iPad intro was envisioning a pencil instead? I think not. He was all about the finger being the best tool.

No, that isn't what I was saying at all. I'm saying that Jobs strongly believed a pencil, stylus, pen, lengthy tool, call it what you wish is not ideal for UI input. In other words, he strongly distanced himself from the Newton's, Palm's, etc. main input device.

What he didn't make a statement about is using such a device for drawing. Nobody is disputing the use of a stylus for a graphics tablet. And that's exactly what the iPad Pro now offers. It doesn't negate, at all, that you mainly interact with an iPad using your fingers. In fact, the iOS 11 drag & drop demos further reinforce the important of multi-touch.

 

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No, that isn't what I was saying at all. I'm saying that Jobs strongly believed a pencil, stylus, pen, lengthy tool, call it what you wish is not ideal for UI input. In other words, he strongly distanced himself from the Newton's, Palm's, etc. main input device.

What he didn't make a statement about is using such a device for drawing. Nobody is disputing the use of a stylus for a graphics tablet. And that's exactly what the iPad Pro now offers. It doesn't negate, at all, that you mainly interact with an iPad using your fingers. In fact, the iOS 11 drag & drop demos further reinforce the important of multi-touch.

The iOS drag-n-drop demo looked incredibly awkward. I got the sense the guy doing the demo was praying it would be over quickly and nothing got dropped in the wrong place. When I think about how many times I have to swipe my phone sometimes to get it to do what I want to do and that requires no precision at all... I can't imagine trying that for the destination of my files. I predict a lot of, "oops... now where did that file go? ... its not where I thought I dropped it" scenarios with this thing.

But glad the iPad has finally added something we had on other platforms 30 years ago. I don't see this changing the iPad Pro's ability to really be a business users laptop replacement.

 

[Dranix]

The world doesn't consists out of business users - A think many have a hard time to grasp...

 

[LiveM]

Ever tried moving 2 fingers over the virtual keyboard? Build in for quite some time...

Only useful when not using Smart Keyboard. LOL, talk about painful. It's the reason the Mac doesn't have a touchscreen.

 

[ilikepear]

Only useful when not using Smart Keyboard. LOL, talk about painful. It's the reason the Mac doesn't have a touchscreen.

Thats why iPad should need mouse / trackpad support, if they wish to continue with Smart Keyboard + drag and drop lol.

I hate awkward hand gestures. And i have almost enough of the typical "Want mouse get Mac" argument.

We waited for 8 years for a file system.
I guess we have to wait 8 more for a pointer support.