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Fermi support in OS X

The Rominator said:
I know the pretty color graphs are fun to look at, too bad you couldn't READ the text.

It says Fermi "will hit etailers shelves on April 6th" so in other words, that test is from BEFORE it came out and BEFORE the real drivers appeared.

So...sort of like today, with us getting results based on pre-release drivers. Where it can't beat a 3870.

So let me put my XFX 5870 in my Mac and see how it does.

Oh, look. Black screen.

Huh.

So take your theoretical babbling to the PC forums where you can argue ATI vs Nvidia, My Mobo is bigger than Your Mobo, MY PSU is better than your PSU ALL DAY LONG and it will seem like people care.

This is a Mac forum, check the top of the page if you don't believe me.

And since only Fermi is now running in Mac OS and the 5870 is just a nice dream for someday in the future, WHY DEBATE THEIR MERITS HERE AT ALL?

Or maybe go find a forum where you can debate other theoretical, "what if" sort of nonsense. I know, how about a thorough discussion of "How McCain would have dealt with oil spill if he were Prez" or "What if Amelia Airheart had used a GPS unit" or any of a million other nonsensical topics that also don't have any bearing on reality. Or maybe a nice ATI Fanboi site where you can create (or just copy) some more fun COLOR pix of fires and Fermi cards? Doesn't that sound fun?

Pardon me, I need to go now and continue trying to help Netkas find a way to improve Fermi support in OSX. You should go find a nice ranting site to post on. Maybe try trolling an Nvidia site? Now THAT could be fun !!!

Or maybe just go ride your trike around the dining room table a few more times, until Mamah tells you to go outside again.
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Yes, those are reviews for the GTX 480 that came out a week before the actual card went on sale.

Apparently, someone is lacking in relaease dates. Those were release date drivers if I recall correctly. Obviously by now, drivers are even more mature, but that took what? 8-9 months to beat the 5870? It had to give way, it is old by now. Also, GTX cards bare more GDDR5 memory which does affect a formal comparisson, but thats a given more memory was going to be available specially after 6 months. However, the basic concept is that it took nVidia 8-9 months to catch up with ATI, who by now, must be on the closing details of the 6000 series. Oh nVidia, you so mad.

But sure, whatever makes you sleep at night.
 

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jav6454 said:
Yes, those are reviews for the GTX 480 that came out a week before the actual card went on sale.

Apparently, someone is lacking in relaease dates. Those were release date drivers if I recall correctly. Obviously by now, drivers are even more mature, but that took what? 8-9 months to beat the 5870? It had to give way, it is old by now. Also, GTX cards bare more GDDR5 memory which does affect a formal comparisson, but thats a given more memory was going to be available specially after 6 months. However, the basic concept is that it took nVidia 8-9 months to catch up with ATI, who by now, must be on the closing details of the 6000 series. Oh nVidia, you so mad.

But sure, whatever makes you sleep at night.
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1st you're comparing gaming benchmarks when the card is going to be run on a workstation.
2nd You're not mentioning how abysmal open cl is from the current ati offers.
3rd You're just nip picking dumb issues that are completely common to high performance hardware.
4th You completely ignored when I mentioned how hot can the macbook's get. So is it right to complain about the fermi based cards and not the macbook's? When they manage to hit 99º C with no problem.
 
Major Reeves said:
1st you're comparing gaming benchmarks when the card is going to be run on a workstation.
2nd You're not mentioning how abysmal open cl is from the current ati offers.
3rd You're just nip picking dumb issues that are completely common to high performance hardware.
4th You completely ignored when I mentioned how hot can the macbook's get. So is it right to complain about the fermi based cards and not the macbook's? When they manage to hit 99º C with no problem.
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1. Workstation Graphic cards are not the GTX or HD series. nVidia has dedicated Quadro GPUs for that as well as ATI has FireX GPUs. If you are going to bench a GTX or HD GPU, best be using games, because that's what they were designed for. Using synthetic benchmarks proves nothing and is not a the real comparisson for performance.

2. I am not avoiding that, I never said nVidia had poor OpenCL drivers. In fact, that is NOT my argument against Fermi at all.

3. High performance hardware? Hardly, Fermi has to suck enourmous amounts of power, produce high amounts of heat to crunch that fast. Otherwise, good ol'e HD 5870 rapes it. Also, no hardware is considered good with a TDP of 250W, hoovers at 70*C idle and 90*C at load when it's maximum designated temperature is 105*C. All that while consuming 300W of power (150W from 8-pin, 75W from PCIe and 75W from 6-pin). That IS NOT performance, that is more like reallly, really bad hardware trying too hard.

4. I didn't ignore that, but we are not talking about MacBook's here, we are mentioning Fermi, which is a chip, that gets as hot as an entire computer does. That is NOT good.
 
Major Reeves said:
1st you're comparing gaming benchmarks when the card is going to be run on a workstation.
2nd You're not mentioning how abysmal open cl is from the current ati offers.
3rd You're just nip picking dumb issues that are completely common to high performance hardware.
4th You completely ignored when I mentioned how hot can the macbook's get. So is it right to complain about the fermi based cards and not the macbook's? When they manage to hit 99º C with no problem.
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Sorry, I really have no interest in this discussion, but I just had to ask...is this like a much more fun version of nit picking?
 
Major Reeves said:
1st you're comparing gaming benchmarks when the card is going to be run on a workstation.
2nd You're not mentioning how abysmal open cl is from the current ati offers.
3rd You're just nip picking dumb issues that are completely common to high performance hardware.
4th You completely ignored when I mentioned how hot can the macbook's get. So is it right to complain about the fermi based cards and not the macbook's? When they manage to hit 99º C with no problem.
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Oh I forgot to mention, while on load, Fermi gets as loud as vacuum cleaner. Now thats a cool feature.
 
I need your help here...

netkas said:
guys, can you stop the flame battle and get back to the topic ?
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First I agree with Netkas about getting back to the topic... AS for ATI and Nvidia will always have it's own pros and cons.

I have been looking through google for Fermi cards to work on Mac Pro and I haven't found much information unless I'm looking at the wrong places.

So my question is will a Fermi VC work with the Mac Pro in the Win OS7 while it's doing nada while in OSX while I use GT120 for video editing?

Or will I still have to flash the Fermi?

I certainly hope I am clear in what I am asking here.

Here are my specs to help you guys to get an idea of my set up:

Refurbished
Mac Pro 4.1
2.26Ghz (8cores)
16GB Rams in all 8 slots
GT120 Nvidia Video card
2-600 GB WD v'raptors (Bay1=OSX (SL) Bay2=Win7pro)
2-2TB HD (Bay3/4=storage)
1-Dellu2410 with 2 DVIs +1 VGA

I am aware that Apple is being silent about whether or not they will be supporting Direct X11 cards any time soon. I have been keeping an eye out on it is why I am postponing in buying a older generation card to try flashing it.(afterall I have never flashed a vc)

Reason I want a faster card is I like playing Crysis, Crysis warhead and looking forward to Crysis 2 coming out this fall. I also have few other games such as Red Faction Guerrilla, Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising, plus some steam games. ( I used to have PC set up until I sold the system).

Hope you guys can help me out here.
 
DeafNeoMac said:
First I agree with Netkas about getting back to the topic... AS for ATI and Nvidia will always have it's own pros and cons.

I have been looking through google for Fermi cards to work on Mac Pro and I haven't found much information unless I'm looking at the wrong places.

So my question is will a Fermi VC work with the Mac Pro in the Win OS7 while it's doing nada while in OSX while I use GT120 for video editing?

Or will I still have to flash the Fermi?

I certainly hope I am clear in what I am asking here.

Here are my specs to help you guys to get an idea of my set up:

Refurbished
Mac Pro 4.1
2.26Ghz (8cores)
16GB Rams in all 8 slots
GT120 Nvidia Video card
2-600 GB WD v'raptors (Bay1=OSX (SL) Bay2=Win7pro)
2-2TB HD (Bay3/4=storage)
1-Dellu2410 with 2 DVIs +1 VGA

I am aware that Apple is being silent about whether or not they will be supporting Direct X11 cards any time soon. I have been keeping an eye out on it is why I am postponing in buying a older generation card to try flashing it.(afterall I have never flashed a vc)

Reason I want a faster card is I like playing Crysis, Crysis warhead and looking forward to Crysis 2 coming out this fall. I also have few other games such as Red Faction Guerrilla, Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising, plus some steam games. ( I used to have PC set up until I sold the system).

Hope you guys can help me out here.
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why not do a search for "gtx480" here?
 
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