Filemaker 7

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nagromme

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Tuesday

OK, it's not new 8-CPU invisible PowerMacs, but it's a Tuesday release from Apple... been a while :)
 

~Shard~

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nagromme said:
OK, it's not new 8-CPU invisible PowerMacs, but it's a Tuesday release from Apple... been a while :)
Yah, good point - I forgot it was Tuesday! Let's hope this is the beginning of another trend like last year, where we saw lots of goodies being released every other Tuesday. Tuesday's have lost meaning for me as far as Apple goes as of late - I used to look forward to them!

As for Filemaker, I've heard it's a good app, but I don't use it myself....
 

cello

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looks fantastic!

wow, from what I've seen yet, it looks absolutly great! If that stuff really works without problems (what it better should after the long time it took them...), this will be a true killer application!
Can't wait to get my hands on one of them... :D

another link with informations can be found here: article on InfoWorld
 

Bear

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Part of me wonders if I should have waited to order the upgrae until the first patch/update was released. However, I ordered my copy through the Apple Store (Upgrade) and should have it in a few days.

The worst case is I have to wait for the first update to really use it.
 

seven5

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ummm about time

Can i be the first one to say, ITS ABOUT F***ING TIME!!! Welcome to 1995 FileMaker, welcome to more than one table in a file. When i switched to Os X from the PC in Jan 2002, i checked out filemaker and couldn't believe that i couldnt' have more than one table in a file. I had to make a whole database with more than 20 files in a folder, WTF.

Well now its relational. what do you know. I can't wait to check it out now.
 

Dave K

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Macrumors said:
transition to a new relational database engine architecture
is the only one of more than 100 new features in this new release that really matters...
 

iggyb

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I kinda sorta like Filemaker, but I found it to be somewhat archaic, compared to other database applications. I hate to say it, but I think even MS Access was a more intuitive application (and much more relational). Hopefully, this new release will be a refreshing change.

Is Filemaker a subsidiary of Apple?
 

Chaszmyr

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What's your opinion guys? I don't know much about FileMaker... Is there any good reason for a person to have it on their home computer?
 

wordmunger

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Chaszmyr said:
What's your opinion guys? I don't know much about FileMaker... Is there any good reason for a person to have it on their home computer?
Well, if you need a database, you need a database. Your only real options on a Mac are Filemaker and Unix-based databases. Filemaker, obviously, is much easier to use.

If you don't have an obvious need for a database, and you're not the type of person who might be inclined to organize his/her recipes, baseball card collection, or paint swatches electronically, then you don't need it.

The other reason to use Filemaker is to create dynamic/interactive Web sites. But most developers now use something like Dreamweaver/Coldfusion.
 

iShater

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Funky! I was thinking about buying FileMaker a couple of days ago. I tried using Excel to keep track of my eBay sales and items, and used a couple of those eBay applications out there, but none really worked the way I wanted them to.

Now that it can save binary files, I think I can design a good dbase where I can save the item images along with descriptions, etc.

Does anybody use FM for anything like that? does it have a scripting language? or maybe RealBasic support or something? (I will read more on it, but personal experiences are the best source of info IMHO).

I used Access on the PC and programmed in it in the past, but I am guessing FM doesn't stack up to it yet.
 

Dave K

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wordmunger said:
The other reason to use Filemaker is to create dynamic/interactive Web sites. But most developers now use something like Dreamweaver/Coldfusion.
Filemaker CDML has generally been avoided for a good long time. Those who knew better would combine Filemaker with Lasso because the performance is significantly better in this configuration and Lasso offers a significantly larger feature set.

Although, most Lasso users have migrated over to MySQL, either through the built in version or a standalone install, for the very simple reason that MySQL beats Filemaker 6 and below soundly in terms of performance and Lasso has built a reasonably friendly user interface for it. Alot of them have been waiting for Filemaker to get relational and properly multithreaded on the Mac for years. If Server 7 Advanced is the direct replacement for the unlimited version that's licensed for web connector use, well $2,499 is not going to work for quite a few people.


Also note that Dreamweaver and Coldfusion are not comparable to Filemaker. Filemaker is a Database with a built in web application engine/scripting language. Dreamweaver is a HTML/Script editor and Coldfusion is a web application engine, but neither provide a database.
 

wdlove

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I'm currently using Filemaker Pro 5.5, so I've been looking forward to the release of Filemaker Pro 7. The new icon is awesome, like the addition of the blue. :cool:
 

hayesk

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seven5 said:
Can i be the first one to say, ITS ABOUT F***ING TIME!!! Welcome to 1995 FileMaker, welcome to more than one table in a file. When i switched to Os X from the PC in Jan 2002, i checked out filemaker and couldn't believe that i couldnt' have more than one table in a file. I had to make a whole database with more than 20 files in a folder, WTF.

Well now its relational. what do you know. I can't wait to check it out now.
It's been relational since version 3. Somewhere along the line, people assumed relational meant your tables had to be all in one file. Simply not true. Where the tables are stored is irrelevant. Normalizing your data by linking keys is relevant. You could do that since version 3.
 

hayesk

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iShater said:
Does anybody use FM for anything like that? does it have a scripting language? or maybe RealBasic support or something? (I will read more on it, but personal experiences are the best source of info IMHO).

I used Access on the PC and programmed in it in the past, but I am guessing FM doesn't stack up to it yet.
People have used FM for image databases since that's what the container field was best at. FM has it's own built-in scripting language, or you can use AppleScript.

IMHO, FM more than stacks up to Access. Access does have more functionality in its scripting language than FM's build-in language, but Access is a kludgy mess. It takes forever to do even the simplest of databases. FM shines in that regard.
 

Doctor Q

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It was awkward to use previous versions of FileMaker using a JDBC interface from a Java program. Third-party software was required. Does anyone know whether FileMaker 7 directly supports JDBC now? This is the issue that will determine whether I upgrade.
 

Wonder Boy

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that's what i like to see

in blue text, on the apple main page, it says "now available in stores".

apple announces a product and it is immedietly in stores. God i wish that happend more often.
 

Doctor Q

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The filemaker.com site is incredibly slow today, but I managed to find the answer to my question above. They make the following claim for the FileMaker Server 7 Advanced version:
Support FileMaker Pro clients, as well as ODBC and JDBC sessions
so the Pro, Developer, and regular Server versions apparently do not have JDBC support.
 

Dave K

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Doctor Q said:
It was awkward to use previous versions of FileMaker using a JDBC interface from a Java program. Third-party software was required. Does anyone know whether FileMaker 7 directly supports JDBC now? This is the issue that will determine whether I upgrade.
Not running on a Mac, no. You'll have to run it under Windows for that. Only supports XML and Instant Web Publishing under OS X.
 

MacEyeDoc

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Thank goodness

YEA!!!!

Something besides a music related theme on the Apple site!! I almost forgot they were a COMPUTER company!
 
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