wheezl said:
Pick the right tool for the right job. Use WebObjects to build your Front-end interfacing via EOF that treats PostgreSQL as pure Objects.
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Pick the right tool for the right job. Use WebObjects to build your Front-end interfacing via EOF that treats PostgreSQL as pure Objects.
mdriftmeyer said:
Agreed, but I have found it nice on occasion to use something like Access hooked up to PostgeSQL via ODBC so a client can actually muck around a bit without having to call me. I think it would be neat to have that option on the mac as well.
phasornc said:
I can clarify that you won't, at least not for FileMaker. If you look in the FAQ for Filemaker 7 Advanced server, it says you can't use it as an ODBC datasource on OSX. If you look at the requirements for Advanced Server, you must use OSX Server, OSX client is not an option. That added to the fact that OSX Server is just OSX client with some added apps leads to the conclusion that you can't use any version of FileMaker 7 as a datasource on any version of OSX. You can use OSX as an ODBC *client* with the ODBC driver included, but not as a datasource.
The language is a little vague, but given all the pieces parts, it's the only conclusion I can come to.
I have a question for you filemaker users.
I want to create a sports database for a website i'm making. like for football.
Can i make a database with this app so all i have to do is choose the game from the scheduled i've entered before hand enter the score and the app does the rest like calcuate position in league point difference wins and provide a table where u can read this in html on a site?
I want to create a sports database for a website i'm making. like for football.
Can i make a database with this app so all i have to do is choose the game from the scheduled i've entered before hand enter the score and the app does the rest like calcuate position in league point difference wins and provide a table where u can read this in html on a site?
Jonnod III said:
I knew that MS used to have a DB as part of their Office line up on the Mac. I guess I just assumed that it was an early version of Access. Correction noted.
You must have missed this, from http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/03/09/fm7:pkscout said:
Emphasis mine.
I'm surprised that you'd change server platforms so hastily, without checking all the facts.
WM
Yeah ODBC eventually!!
I wish Filemaker would have stated this on their site, but this is pretty good news. This means easy PHP and JSP support for all Mac server setups. However, the pricetag is steep, $2499 + $499 for Mac OS Server (ten user). This is more than the cost of entry for MS SQL Server/Windows Server 2003.
I see FileMaker Advanced server as filling a nice gap between Access and SQL Server. It is the one product you can use for your office workgroup and simultaneously publish to the web through standard scripting languages. However the price of entry is also high. Well, we all thought the iPod, the iPod mini and the Cube were priced to high and the market proved us wrong twice. So now we wait and see will FileMaker Advanced Server be a Cube or and iPod.
Since people seem to be willing to shell out the money for "appliances", maybe the time is right for an Xserve/FM Advance preconfigured combo. Apple could really outdo the MS Small Business Server, with a little more tweaking of the Server Admin tools.
Oh well . . . enough babbling, time get back to playing with the FileMaker demo, I've got about 30 databases (60 .fp5 files) to start converting. Did anybody notice in the conversion pdf that found sets and sorts in your old scripts won't be carried over to the new filemaker 7 format. This is like Apple's full employment act for FileMaker techs/consultants.
I wish Filemaker would have stated this on their site, but this is pretty good news. This means easy PHP and JSP support for all Mac server setups. However, the pricetag is steep, $2499 + $499 for Mac OS Server (ten user). This is more than the cost of entry for MS SQL Server/Windows Server 2003.
I see FileMaker Advanced server as filling a nice gap between Access and SQL Server. It is the one product you can use for your office workgroup and simultaneously publish to the web through standard scripting languages. However the price of entry is also high. Well, we all thought the iPod, the iPod mini and the Cube were priced to high and the market proved us wrong twice. So now we wait and see will FileMaker Advanced Server be a Cube or and iPod.
Since people seem to be willing to shell out the money for "appliances", maybe the time is right for an Xserve/FM Advance preconfigured combo. Apple could really outdo the MS Small Business Server, with a little more tweaking of the Server Admin tools.
Oh well . . . enough babbling, time get back to playing with the FileMaker demo, I've got about 30 databases (60 .fp5 files) to start converting. Did anybody notice in the conversion pdf that found sets and sorts in your old scripts won't be carried over to the new filemaker 7 format. This is like Apple's full employment act for FileMaker techs/consultants.
WM. said:
Waiting for JDBC...
Well, my credit card is waiting for that JDBC support, and not just in Advanced Server. A JDBC driver should be available seperately to run against Any Version of FileMaker.
JDBC Drivers can report a LOT of Meta Data about the database, so, I don't think this is trivial to write. But, it's not Rocket Science either.
Well, my credit card is waiting for that JDBC support, and not just in Advanced Server. A JDBC driver should be available seperately to run against Any Version of FileMaker.
JDBC Drivers can report a LOT of Meta Data about the database, so, I don't think this is trivial to write. But, it's not Rocket Science either.
If Apple thinks of JDBC as a server-only function, I beg to differ. I think of this interface the same way I think of RTF for word processing - the common language all products should support. If I have a one-user personal database in my one-user personal copy of FileMaker, I want to be able to query it with a separate SQL-speaking tool. All RDBMSes, client or server, should support JDBC. That's my 2 cents, and Apple won't get my more-than-2 cents for an upgrade until they add it.
WM. said:
In fact, I had not seen that. Thanks for the post. I looked at every page on the FileMaker site to find any indication of future support to no avail, and this is the first article I've seen with any indication of future support. We'll still have to decide based on our project timeline what platform to get, as being committed to something and actually delivering it are two very different things.
I hope my emphasis wasn't too misleading, BTW...I mean, you're skimming along, and you see this bold thing about "full support", but you go right by the part about "as soon as possible...no dates at this time." I guess that's just my journalistic tendency to mislead. 
(And why isn't there an "evil" smiley???)
Also, since I don't have much interest in FileMaker (although my dad might be able to find a use for it for his small business), I haven't poked around their site at all. So I guess I didn't really check all my facts--I kind of assumed that they'd put something as important as this future ODBC/JDBC support in a fairly prominent place on the product pages.
WM
(And why isn't there an "evil" smiley???)Also, since I don't have much interest in FileMaker (although my dad might be able to find a use for it for his small business), I haven't poked around their site at all. So I guess I didn't really check all my facts--I kind of assumed that they'd put something as important as this future ODBC/JDBC support in a fairly prominent place on the product pages.
WM