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Final Cut Pro 6, Final Cut Extreme, Xserve RAID

Lacero said:
Apple needs to build a much more robust media management system than their failed effort with Media Manager on Final Cut Pro. No professional is going to work on Final Cut Extreme if MM is flakey as hell. It's like extolling the virtues of Aperture but forgetting to include a decent RAW converter.

Hopefully, they cleaned up their act and trickled down a proper media manager into FCP 6, if they've included one in Extreme.
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Agreed. I've read though that their are fundamental problems w/the MM code that cause it to be referred to as the "Media Mangler" and w/o a complete rewrite of the app it won't get much better. Maybe FCP will get a ground up rewrite w/the x86 native version is released?


Lethal
 
Great software demands great hardware right?

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slightly off topic but, hopefully they'll be doing some major upgrades to logic pro soon...
 
first quad CPUs and now $10,000 video editing software? wow I wonder how much Apple is paying in marketing dollars to get this stuff out the door...

not that I'm one of those "if you cant do it with a 386 and vi..." kinda people, but seriously the manager who would throw 20-30 grand into an Apple workstation instead of simplifying the project or outsourcing the thing is nuts
 
Choppaface said:
first quad CPUs and now $10,000 video editing software? wow I wonder how much Apple is paying in marketing dollars to get this stuff out the door...

not that I'm one of those "if you cant do it with a 386 and vi..." kinda people, but seriously the manager who would throw 20-30 grand into an Apple workstation instead of simplifying the project or outsourcing the thing is nuts
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How does one go about simplifying working at 4k...?!?

And if you outsource, where do you think the outsource would be getting their gear...?!?

For 4k work; the price is, indeed, right!

;^p
 
great! please also announce a price drop for existing 30 inch!!! I finally realized that working space for my 23 inch is not enough....
$$$$$
 
Choppaface said:
first quad CPUs and now $10,000 video editing software? wow I wonder how much Apple is paying in marketing dollars to get this stuff out the door...

not that I'm one of those "if you cant do it with a 386 and vi..." kinda people, but seriously the manager who would throw 20-30 grand into an Apple workstation instead of simplifying the project or outsourcing the thing is nuts
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Depending on the budget you have and your needs workstations in the video/film world easily go into 6 digits per machine. And that doesn't include things like audio monitors, video monitors, video scopes, decks, HDDs, racks, UPS, power conditioners, etc.,.

And, as MacRonin said, if you outsource it, that means someone had to have bought it. ;)

If FC Extreme is a finishing app it will really help round out the FCP workflow. You can offline in FCP and seamlessly online in FC Extreme. No more clunky workarounds to get your project into an Avid Symphony or anything.


Lethal
 
LethalWolfe said:
Most places use an offline and online editing process. What this means is footage is initially digitized at a lower res (kind like a "draft" res) to save space and cut down on render times (this is the off line phase). They'll probably use an Avid Adrenalines to edit the footage. And then later, once the final version of the product is approved, only the pieces of footage used are re-digitized at full resolution. This is the beginning of the online phase. They'll take that full res finished product to, let's say, an Avid Symphony and do final color correction, titles, renders, etc.,.
This is a pretty simplified example, but hopefully you get the idea. It can get kinda confusing because there is some overlap between programs.

FCP typically competes against software like the Adrenaline and FC Extreme (assuming it's a finishing app) would compete against software like the Symphony.


Lethal
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that cleared it all up.. thanks
 
stephenli said:
great! please also announce a price drop for existing 30 inch!!! I finally realized that working space for my 23 inch is not enough....
$$$$$
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either what we're talking about will be an upgrade to the 30" (possibly at the same size :eek: ) or the other monitors will get cheaper. I hope. because I'd pick up a 20" if it was a few hun cheaper.

edit: if you decide to get rid of your 23" give me a shout ;)
 
Fukui said:
Holographic Editing.:eek:
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No, no, no. Final Cut Extreme (FCX) will allow complete non-linear editing of Zoe memory implants harvested from dead clients.

The rapid speed at which FCX can recall scenes can only be matched with the speed in which the editor is able to interface with FCX to allow for nearly limitless concurrent searches of the Zoe memory holographic storage 'life history datasets'. This new paradigm in 'effortless' editing is the major feature of Apple's Final Cut Extreme. Blazingly fast speed, superscalar architecture and precision media management means the editor is free from having to deal with the hardware, so they can focus on editing.

Sneak peak of the required hardware to run Final Cut Extreme:

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Here's to the Crazy Ones ​
 
Now being a little bit serious I have seen a lot of companies replacing Avid systems for FCP (when dealing with standard SD content) and leaving the big machines well for the big stuff (namely HD Film) When you read at specialised forum they always compare how FCP is not Smoke or Avid Nitris Adrenaline. However the fact that they compare it means that FCP is actually getting to the point where is turning heads and projects to it (e.g.-Cold Mountain and Scrubs use FCP)

If indeed FCE turn out to be only 60% of what the rumours said and it only costs 10K (lets say 30K for a complete solution) and can do more or less the same as an HD Smoke or Nitris DS both Avid and Autodesk could be in serious trouble.

What I expect for FCE is: Realtime editing of uncompressed HD and Film footage. Surround sound editing. Realtime project sharing and seamless transition to Shake and Motion (just like switching from Photoshop to Image Ready) in conjunction with a SAN. I also expect to have Final Cut Extreme Studio with Shake expanding its 3d environment and start performing in real time.
 
Never mind all this high end stuff, but after seeing the new themes in iMovie, I'd love to see some more, perhaps more polished, themes in FCE, akin to the better themes in DVD SP.

that would see me upgrade my FCE and keep me happy!

Iain :D
 
From an unnamed source: This is what I have been told...

NAB 2007 is where RED One and Final Cut Extreme will both be launched.

"RED One is a 4k camera...Final Cut Extreme is a 4K editing solution...do the maths?" They have been working together (Apple worked on REDCODE for the RED One etc.) RED have had a promient link on apple.com.

Both are targeting the same users (low budget filmmakers), as well as trying to compete with established competion with more expensive and established products.

Final Cut Extreme will be a high-end editing/finishing system to compete with Avid Symphony. It will be hardware/software based in the same way as Symphony. And will have improved finishing, acquired from recent Apple purchases (colour correction etc). It (probably) won't include any monitors. It features additional space for PCI cards (encoding/decoding, HD-SDI in/out etc.)

It should be priced at around $10,000 ($9,999.99).

I am unsure, if there are upgrade options like it is buying a mac (different configuarations on the processor, hard disk, RAM, choice of cards) This may affect the price. As it is Apple, I would hazard a guess that there are. Pushing the price up further.
 
EuroMacpert said:
From an unnamed source: This is what I have been told...

NAB 2007 is where RED One and Final Cut Extreme will both be launched.

"RED One is a 4k camera...Final Cut Extreme is a 4K editing solution...do the maths?" They have been working together (Apple worked on REDCODE for the RED One etc.) RED have had a promient link on apple.com.

Both are targeting the same users (low budget filmmakers), as well as trying to compete with established competion with more expensive and established products.

Final Cut Extreme will be a high-end editing/finishing system to compete with Avid Symphony. It will be hardware/software based in the same way as Symphony. And will have improved finishing, acquired from recent Apple purchases (colour correction etc). It (probably) won't include any monitors. It features additional space for PCI cards (encoding/decoding, HD-SDI in/out etc.)

It should be priced at around $10,000 ($9,999.99).

I am unsure, if there are upgrade options like it is buying a mac (different configuarations on the processor, hard disk, RAM, choice of cards) This may affect the price. As it is Apple, I would hazard a guess that there are. Pushing the price up further.
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Oh, oh, this is just too funny. You resurrected the "FCXtreme is coming!11!" thread from LAST YEAR instead of posting in the "FCXtreme is coming!11!!" from this year. I guess it really doesn't matter all that much. It's a recycle rumor from last year so we might as well recycle the thread about it from last year too.


Lethal
 
LethalWolfe said:
Oh, oh, this is just too funny. You resurrected the "FCXtreme is coming!11!" thread from LAST YEAR instead of posting in the "FCXtreme is coming!11!!" from this year. I guess it really doesn't matter all that much. It's a recycle rumor from last year so we might as well recycle the thread about it from last year too.


Lethal
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ha ha, silly me. I just hope the guy wasn't yanking chain. Because its sounds to good to be true.
 
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