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Final Cut Pro X Tidbits: Software Add-Ons, Graphics Card Requirements, Supported Cameras

So you can import an iMovie project but not a FCP7 project? I'm just stunned at what is going on here.

And without XML/EDL support you're locked into finishing in FCPX? No way to export and load into Resolve?

I'll give it some time, but...
 
Not to fret. Apple's "pro" Aperture 3 was really crappy when first released inspite of the fact that it had been in public beta for awhile. For many it behaved like alpha level software. It took about six months or more before A3was really usable without blowing up stuff.

Granted that Aperture 3 is more of an "iPhoto Deluxe" than an Adobe pro competitor but regardless it did take a while before it didn't suck really bad. I suspect that Final Cut X's future is similar to A3's.
 
scottsjack said:
Not to fret. Apple's "pro" Aperture 3 was really crappy when first released inspite of the fact that it had been in public beta for awhile. For many it behaved like alpha level software. It took about six months or more before A3was really usable without blowing up stuff.

Granted that Aperture 3 is more of an "iPhoto Deluxe" than an Adobe pro competitor but regardless it did take a while before it didn't suck really bad. I suspect that Final Cut X's future is similar to A3's.
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Six months? :eek: That's just too long.
 
mBox said:
so due diligence and research till your fingers bleed folks before you buy.
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I agree with you 100%. I haven't purchased FCPX. I'm doing my research now, and the issue I have with Apple is that the majority of this information is NOT coming from Apple.
 
This is such a good collection of software that I want it and I can't justify why. It looks really, really good, but I have the previous release and my wife would kill me for upgrading!
 
IMovie Pro indeed

This product is not meant for Pros. This may be great software for consumers and is priced accordingly, but I don't know a single working editor that would upgrade today.

No Dual Monitor Support.
No SDI out
No support for SDI video Cards
No support for Decks
No OMF output???

I suspected it was the end of the Apple's support for Traditional NLE's when I saw the pre-announcement, but after having tested it, it's clear. This is a product for people who do not have to Deliver. This is a neat little video editing app, but it's unusable in a production environment.

Judging by the heavy heavy reliance on the mouse, You can see how this app was written to ultimately become an iOS type app controlled by touch screen.
 
Affirmed said:
This product is not meant for Pros. This may be great software for consumers and is priced accordingly, but I don't know a single working editor that would upgrade today.
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I started with FCP 1.25, bought DVDSP when it was standalone for $1,000, have upgraded each time at considerable cost. And this is the first time I have considered skipping a version.

What a shame too, with what is probably a mega jump in system performance the bottleneck is now the app itself.
 
Affirmed said:
This product is not meant for Pros. This may be great software for consumers and is priced accordingly, but I don't know a single working editor that would upgrade today.

No Dual Monitor Support.
No SDI out
No support for SDI video Cards
No support for Decks
No OMF output???

I suspected it was the end of the Apple's support for Traditional NLE's when I saw the pre-announcement, but after having tested it, it's clear. This is a product for people who do not have to Deliver. This is a neat little video editing app, but it's unusable in a production environment.

Judging by the heavy heavy reliance on the mouse, You can see how this app was written to ultimately become an iOS type app controlled by touch screen.
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Let's get this straight -- if you were actually working on any pro projects right now, you wouldn't be a fool and upgrade to a total overhaul of your primary program on day 1. Period. FCP X previews showed many of these features would be absent from the 1.0 release but on their way in imminent future updates. If you needed any of those features and you updated, again...what were you thinking?

I think the idea is for Apple to start grabbing prosumers now, as well as letting full-time editors screw around on second computers and start to understand the major overhaul.
 
TheNightPhoenix said:
:confused: I've got mine running on Dual Monitors
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Same here but the poster means you cant tear a window out and place on another monitor. With my Dual 30's the View window fits nicely on one side at least but timecode area is split in half. Such is life ;)
 
tgmthegreenman said:
this may be the end of Apple!!!
I fear Pros no longer can take the company serious
As A Pro, you want your progs to help you, not to keep you busy by having to learmn and organize everything new again, by not being able to use stuff just recently
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Following this argument, no pro applications must ever change from the initial release. They're cast in stone and that's that.

Some people work wood with a minimal set of hand tools.

Others add tools and skills to get their job done.
 
mBox said:
oh you kids crack me up ;) patience my friends, fun will be had by all soon :)
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What?? Patience?? Why should anyone have patience on such a mainstay production program?? If it doesn't work or have all the features REQUIRED for professional editing it should have not have been released. We can patiently wait for the product to be released but NOT for updates to fix hobbled software.

Hey Jobs, WTF?
 
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Wow, I was holding out so much hope for this FCP re-do, but this:

- Final Cut Pro X is compatible with iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 2, and iPod touch (4th generation).
- Final Cut Pro X is compatible with most MiniDV tape-based camcorders using DV and HDV formats, which use a FireWire (also known as IEEE 1394 or i.LINK) cable to transfer video.

is TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE.

I wonder what our broadcasters will say when we have to deliver our show on MiniDV, hahaha.

So glad it supports the iPhone, though. What a joke. They should give this thing away for free, really.
 
tivoboy said:
Wow, my late 2008 MBP Nvidia graphics card, no love. Seems the early unibody won't play nice either.

My imac 2009, no love, this is pretty depressing, can't even upgrade to this latest software and have it work! What are they thinking, one has to have at most a 2 year old mac of so form to get this application to run?
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That sucks, you might as well wait for the bootleg version to see if it may allow you to install it.
 
42streetsdown said:
I wonder why they support the non OpenCL compliant Intel HD 3000, and not any other non OpenCL card. This lack card support is making me a sad panda bear. :(
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Simple - They still sell a ton of HD 3000 equipped machines today, even in their "Pro" line. They have to support it.
 
ValSalva said:
Six months? :eek: That's just too long.
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Asserting that Aperture 3 was unusable for the first six months is a bit of an exaggeration. Somewhere closer to 4 - 8 weeks, with some pathological examples taking longer to shake out.
 
FCP to FCP X

I'm guessing most of the people spelling disaster aren't long time Mac users.
The response to FCPX is the same as when OSX came out.

People bitched about a lack of features or hardware support and it spelled the doom of Apple. Yet Apple managed the transition pretty darn well then and I suspect they will do the same again. Apple will add new features and bring back old ones and overall improve everything. In a few years time people will remember the time FCPX came out and how everyone went nuts, and they will laugh about it.
 
Import from Apple devices including iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad 2.

Import projects and Events from iMovie.

Export presets for Apple devices, including Apple TV, iPhone, iPad, and Mac

Export presets for YouTube, Podcast Producer, Facebook, Vimeo, CNN iReport, and email

My gut feeling is that this should be called Final Cut eXpress.
 
TheNightPhoenix said:
I'm guessing most of the people spelling disaster aren't long time Mac users.
The response to FCPX is the same as when OSX came out.

People bitched about a lack of features or hardware support and it spelled the doom of Apple. Yet Apple managed the transition pretty darn well then and I suspect they will do the same again. Apple will add new features and bring back old ones and overall improve everything. In a few years time people will remember the time FCPX came out and how everyone went nuts, and they will laugh about it.
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Uhhhh.....WRONG.

I've been using Mac's since my Color Classic. Does that count??? I've been using FCP since version 1.0. Does that count??? I embraced OSX and loved it immediately and never looked back to OS 9. So you're wrong.

I just hope there's a bigger plan in the works. That maybe Final Cut X is for the youtube kids but an actual production-level app is on the way. Otherwise, I'm hoping some other company is going to step up and fill the void. But that makes me sad because I'm Apple born and bred.

(I also don't think it's any kind of doom for Apple. That's just silly.)
 
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