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Appleinsider has an article about the new version:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._bundle_major_motion_soundtrack_upgrades.html

They don't have much new info on it, other than it being optimised for Mac OS X 10.6 (so will probably be released not too long after it) and it still won't support BluRay.

I guess I will have to do all my BluRay creation on a PC as there still aren't any decent solutions on the Mac (you need to buy Premiere to get Adobe's Encore).


Actually you can create your B/R videos in FCP using Compressor, but you will need a program to actually burn it to blu ray disc like Toast 9/10 B/R plugin or like you said Encore it self.
 
yea.thats what I do.
i put all my footage into my scratch disk which is a fw800 raid0 hdd
When I export the video, I export to that sratch disk too. my question is, should I export to a different external hdd? but all my other hdds are usb..

Well exporting comes down to where you want the file. Sometimes I export to my desktop if I want it on there, other times I'll export to my hard drive where all of my video folders are, and where the capture scratch folder is.
 
I've been expecting a new FCP ever since the new towers came out. If not a release today at least I hope for an announcement.

On another topic, with drives so cheap I would absolutely keep media separate from the program.
 
the only reason I see a necessity for an external is when you capture from tape on a laptop. Lots of dropped frames otherwise
I've never experienced that. I can capture an entire movie via FireWire from a DigiBeta tape to my MBP 2.16's internal drive with no problems at all.

In fact, I prefer capturing to the internal drive when I'm away from base, because it means I don't have to carry an external drive around with me. I can always copy the media across to another drive later.
 
Make it prettier? Color is professional grading software and other (and much more expensive) suites like da Vincis and Pandoras don't have pretty interfaces, either. The dark, neutral color scheme in the application have a purpose. A cocoa-style interface with bright backgrounds and pretty buttons wouldn't be beneficial to colorist trying to well, judge proper color.

Maybe "pretty" was a bit of a superlative in this case but it still feels like a bit of a hack. So maybe a "tidy up" is what I mean.

You shouldn't be running Color with a single display anyway (especially a single laptop display). It was designed for dual displays, and for a good reason. The monitoring display should be properly calibrated and most laptop LCDs are just not accurate enough for grading work.

Very true but there are plenty of people out there (including myself) who edit in remote locations unable to use a second monitor. Its a crude way of working I know but we want it.
 
I got a scatch disk
but, should I export the video to the scratch disk? or should I buy another hdd for export?

no you don't have to buy another HDD for exporting. You can just choose your system drive for export. This way, the FCP is reading/converting the files from your Scratch Disk, and then dumping the final footage to your System Drive. It will be fast. If you let the FCP dump the final footage to your Scratch Disk, it will be slow depending upon the file size because FCP have to read & write to the same disk.
 
Well exporting comes down to where you want the file. Sometimes I export to my desktop if I want it on there, other times I'll export to my hard drive where all of my video folders are, and where the capture scratch folder is.

if you let FCP read & write to the same disk at the same time, you are going to experience slow speed. well, FCP will experience slow speed in reading your captured raw footage & writing your final edited footage.
 
Since the FCS3 is suppose to be 64 bit i was wondering if 4GB of RAM memory is good enough for 64 bit software ? I have 2008 imac which can only take 4GB of RAM unlike the new ones that are up to 8 GB. Will running a 64 bit snow leopard and the 64 bit FCS3 on 4GB of RAM be faster then the FCS2 and 32 leopard on a 4GB RAM? Yes i know IMACs are not that great for handling HD video editing but i cant afford mac pro so i have to deal with an imac for now...
 
I don't like the fact that Color's interface is inconsistent with the rest of FCS, but once you learn even the most basic techniques you can see how tremendously powerful it is. Rather than making it prettier I would love to see the integration of Color and FCP made more seamless.

I use both Magic Bullet Looks and Color, and after learning just a little bit of Color's true functionality, it become clear that MB Looks is a blunt tool in comparison. Where MB Looks adds value is that it is much easier to get a desired look in a shorter amount of time, because it has a more intuitive interface. You can blow away your results in Looks with Color, but it takes 3 times as long to get there.
 
I've never experienced that. I can capture an entire movie via FireWire from a DigiBeta tape to my MBP 2.16's internal drive with no problems at all.

In fact, I prefer capturing to the internal drive when I'm away from base, because it means I don't have to carry an external drive around with me. I can always copy the media across to another drive later.

What's the speed on the hard drive?
I omitted to mention the ones I've used because 5400 rpm is the standard. Do you have 7200? Or do you capture with the uncontrollable deck setting?
 
I don't like the fact that Color's interface is inconsistent with the rest of FCS, but once you learn even the most basic techniques you can see how tremendously powerful it is.

Similar thing happened with Shake. Apple acquired the company and forgot to make it look like an Apple product..
 
I don't think they forgot it so much as rushed to release it in time. It seemed to me like they acquired Color and all the rights thereto related toward the end of the development cycle and worked overtime to get it working and the bugs cleaned up, leaving refinement for the next revision. That didn't bother most of us, since we were getting an app we didn't even expect essentially for free. Expectations are higher now, though. We take its presence in FCS for granted.
 
Actually you can create your B/R videos in FCP using Compressor, but you will need a program to actually burn it to blu ray disc like Toast 9/10 B/R plugin or like you said Encore it self.

But herein lies the problem - Toast w/the BR plugin works as a crude Blu-ray authoring tool, but it doesn't give you anywhere near the authoring power and flexibility of DVDSP. Encore should be offered as a standalone product for maybe $200-300, but Adobe makes you buy Premiere just to get it. So as an FCP editor, I would be stuck buying NLE software I have no desire to use. There's no rhyme or reason to this, other than Adobe telling users of competitor products to suck it.

Knowing Apple, I think full Blu-ray support (export AND authoring) will continue to be a gaping void in FCS and that's too bad.
 
Captain, Encore can only reliably create single-button "play only" Blu-rays... it is still not a viable authoring solution, so don't feel bad about them bundling it with PPro. Right now the only real authoring solutions are PC-only.

as for the complaints about the UI for Color (and Shake was mentioned)... they don't/didn't need face-lifts because the people that use the programs professionally don't really care about having a slick UI. Plus with Color, the reason it looks the way it does is to keep it color-neutral in a grading environment (something that wouldn't necessarily happen if you ported the FCP interface).
 
Doubt we'll hear anything about it this week. My guess is that it'll be released after the launch of Snow Leopard. I am very much looking forward to it, because we should see huge performance increases across the board. I will be disappointed with no Blu-ray authoring support in DVDSP, but I won't be surprised either.
 
Oh well, here's hoping it arrives around the same time as Snow Leopard. I'm guessing it'll greatly benefit from it's advances.

I'm also really hoping for Blu-Ray support, but I'm not going to hold my breathe.
 
Plus with Color, the reason it looks the way it does is to keep it color-neutral in a grading environment (something that wouldn't necessarily happen if you ported the FCP interface).
Giving Color a more intuitive interface in line with the rest of the suite doesn't imply removing its colour neutrality though, just making it look less overtly like an afterthought (which it kinda was at the time of FCS2, of course). And if you're using a second calibrated monitor for review, the colour of the interface should/could be less of an issue. But I agree, it's the integration/round-tripping that needs most work.
 
Giving Color a more intuitive interface in line with the rest of the suite doesn't imply removing its colour neutrality though, just making it look less overtly like an afterthought (which it kinda was at the time of FCS2, of course).

I don't see what the fuss over the UI is all about... pro grading apps have similar UI's because they are the most effective for the process. if people want the capability of a pro app, then learn how to really use it. the UI doesn't hold you back from it. Apple has really spoiled users with their innovation. I hope they remove the "auto-balance" button from Color... it's utterly useless.

And if you're using a second calibrated monitor for review, the colour of the interface should/could be less of an issue. But I agree, it's the integration/round-tripping that needs most work.

I don't think you've ever seen a professional grading suite then... For truly professional color correction, the lighting is always done at a controlled color temp and the walls are kept a neutral gray. It is a lot more than just keeping the broadcast monitor calibrated, it's keeping the entire environment color neutral.
 
I don't think you've ever seen a professional grading suite then.
You're bang on the nail there, but that's not really the point I was trying to get across.
For truly professional color correction, the lighting is always done at a controlled color temp and the walls are kept a neutral gray. It is a lot more than just keeping the broadcast monitor calibrated, it's keeping the entire environment color neutral.
For me, the colour of the UI isn't really a problem, any more than Aperture's. The fact that it looks like it was designed by Kai Krause's less talented brother is another matter.
 
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