Firefox 4

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  1. Tottenham4Life macrumors member

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    Even though it says it recommends an Intel Processor claims to only need OS 10.5 but when I downloaded it this morning it will not work on my 2.67 Powerbook. Anyone hear anything?
     
  2. MagicBoy macrumors 68040

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    Firefox 4 is Intel only. Check the comments on the main article relating to the FF4 announcement.

    You might find www.tenfourfox.com of interest...
     
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  4. 300D macrumors 65816

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    That is false information.
     

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  5. Joshuarocks macrumors 6502

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    Performance of TenFourFox

    Hello,

    How does TenFourFox compare to FF4? Can we do everything someone on FF4 can do, and even better?
     
  6. Joshuarocks macrumors 6502

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    Hello.. Can you provide the link for minefield 4.0? And is there one for PPC7450?
     
  7. DisMyMac macrumors 65816

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    Will I lose my tabs by upgrading from Firefox 3.6 to 4.0? Most upgrades don't erase them, but I'm not so sure this time...
     
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    It's exactly the same in my estimation. I've been using TenFourFox since it came out on my PowerMac G5 and it's got complete feature parity with Firefox 4 on my Linux boxen and Intel Macs. I'd definitely recommend it.
     
  10. zen.state, Mar 23, 2011
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    There are many rebuilds of FF. TenFourFox, Minefield, Camio. Just to name a few off the top of my head.

    Although Camino has a more Mac interface it's still FF at the core of the app and the rendering engine.

    Personally for G4's I prefer Camino and OmniWeb.
     
  11. MagicBoy macrumors 68040

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    Fail

    No need to be a Smart Arse. The Firefox 4 release linked from the front page of the website doesn't support PPC or OS X 10.4.

    If you want to run Alpha nightlies then feel free.
     
  12. MacHamster68, Mar 23, 2011
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    tenfourfox and minefield are the same browser , its called minefield , because it might still ave some bugs left to sort out , ok so far i did not discover any bugs and using it since a couple month now daily , it even improved streamed video playback significantly , so far that my conclusion is its not only adobs flashplayer's fault if videos get choppy and certainly not a hardware fault , the browser plays a significant role in that game of streamed online videos too ;)

    camino is a great browser too if you got a G3 and less then 500mhz and panther it should be the first choice


    but i have to try omniweb ..
     
  13. zen.state macrumors 68020

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    Saying info is false makes him a "smart arse"? I would say it actually makes you look like a dumb arse. Too many people speak before they even know what the hell they are saying. Add yourself to that list.
     
  14. MagicBoy macrumors 68040

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    Our opinions differ.

    It wasn't false information in the context of the OP. If 300D can get the .dmg the OP downloaded working on on a PPC Mac with 10.4 I'll give him a medal.
     
  15. 300D, Mar 24, 2011
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    http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/
    Links without a date next to them are "full" non-beta versions.

    That is false information.

    That is the correct description of MagicBoy.
    Post #5 has an attachment showing it operating on my PPC machine. It works perfectly and its the full, complete, FF4.

    I prefer .999 gold medals, or .999 platinum, thanks.
     
  16. MagicBoy macrumors 68040

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    Here's a clue. If it'c called Minefield then it's not Firefox. It would be a completely different web browser called Minefield. It might share the same rendering engine underneath, but Firefox it aint.

    This is Firefox 4 :
    [​IMG]

    Feel free to carry on trolling. I've just clicked unsubscribe.
     
  17. MacHamster68, Mar 24, 2011
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    ok ok i make it simple so everyone should be able to understand the difference ,as there is actually no difference tenfourfox runs on ppc running 10.4 (it can run on 10.5 too)thats where the name comes from , but firefox 4 does not run on ppc
    but just let tenfourfox 's wiki speak for itself

    TenFourFox is a beta. It is only mostly complete. In particular, there are some late breaking features planned for the final version which are not yet present in this beta (which is equivalent to Mozilla Firefox 4.0 beta 7), and there will be some final additional optimizations specific to 10.4Fx which will be made just prior to final release. You should know that you are using this software at your own risk. It may cause data loss, security breaches, system instability and crashes. If you are not comfortable with these (remote but possible) possibilities, do not use this beta release.

    The beta is based on the nightly build after the beta 7 code freeze. For this reason, the application will appear as "Minefield," which is the Mozilla codename for a nightly build. However, the code is substantially the same. It will appear in your Dock as TenFourFox.

    i guess that is clear enough for most
     
  18. MacHamster68, Mar 26, 2011
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    ok was not simple enough

    since the 24 march minefield does not exist any more as tenfourfox is out of beta and is final release , so download it again please if you have not done that and you will see now tenfourfox is tenfourfox and not minefield any more



    from the tenfourfox website :
    Why is this TenFourFox and not Firefox? Because even though it uses the Firefox code base, it's not Firefox. It uses code tuned for 10.4 (and compatible with 10.5), adds new PowerPC-specific improvements and restores the glue necessary to get most of Firefox 4's advanced features working on our older computers, offered in separately hand-tuned builds for G3, G4/7400, G4/7450 and G5 processors to get the most from your specific computer.

    TenFourFox requires a G3 Power Macintosh, Mac OS X v10.4.11 or Mac OS X v10.5.8, 100MB of free disk space and 256MB of RAM. For video playback, we strongly recommend a 1.25GHz G4 or higher. Intel Macintoshes are not supported (and will be mercilessly mocked).

    great i like that last bit :D


    and can somebody now install it on their G5 please under tiger and give feedback how well it streams youtube and other flashsites at 720 or even 1080p , as my PowerMac G5 is still in bits
     
  19. MagnusVonMagnum macrumors 601

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    As I understand it, TenFourFox has hardware acceleration turned off so it will likely run slower in some respects compared to Firefox 3.6 on an accelerated machine (it certainly felt slower on my PowerMac when I first tried it). I believe the Furb builds are full Firefox builds with all acceleration enabled so they should feel normal. However, the TenFour builds have a completed JIT Javascript engine so Javascript will run much faster.

    I believe the author of TenFourFox sent the finished JIT Javascript engine back to the Firefox team, but I haven't seen any replies or acknowledgment for the progress made so I don't think they're interested in making Firefox 4 for PPC even if both their excuses for not making it available for PPC are done for them. They've decided to dump it and that's that. It's a shame since I much preferred it to Safari on my PowerMac, especially with the Noia Extreme theme plus tabmixplus and download status bar.

    I've participated in some bug-squashing threads for the Intel build and their attitude pretty much is if you cannot provide an easily reproduced scenario for them, they won't even attempt to fix the problem (i.e. forget about more sporadic/intermittent bugs with unknown causes like the odd "freezes" I'll get in FF4 Intel on Snow Leopard that ping the CPU for 100% for 20-40 seconds and then resume normally. I've found no add-on cause despite removing all add-ons and putting them back one-by-one. It's the worst on my netbook so I think it might be a memory leak type thing or possibly even something to do with the latest versions of Flash, but their response was if you can't reproduce it quickly/easily, we won't even look at it so frankly, I'm pretty disappointed at this point.

    Chrome/Safari isn't much better because on a single core Intel (like that Netbook), loading a page in a new tab almost completely cripples the old tab (i.e. you can't go back and scroll down and finish reading a page while the new page loads). This is a common bug reported for WebKit and makes it almost unusable on a single core machine so that kills both those browsers for my Netbook. The Safari4 issue at least only happens every so often (sometimes only once a day or less) whereas the Webkit tab thing happens every single time I open a new tab. What good is faster rendering if it kills all multi-tasking in tabs? The REALLY odd thing, though is that my PPC version of Safari on my single core PowerMac doesn't seem to have that tab problem. It seems to be Intel specific. It's possible it's specific to the Atom CPU in the netbook, though. I haven't used my MBP for browsing in a long time to test it (mostly used for music production these days).
     
  20. TechnoDestructo macrumors member

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    Its been available from day 1.
    http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/
     
  21. MagnusVonMagnum macrumors 601

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    That's NOT an official version of Firefox4 either, hence the name "Minefield" on the program. In other words, it's no different than TenFourFox in that regard. TenFourFox is over 2x faster for Javascript than Minefield, BTW since it has a working JIT Javascript engine (discussed in previous post).
     
  22. TechnoDestructo macrumors member

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    Minefield IS the official Firefox.

    Incorrect. TenFourFox is a hackjob that doesn't work correctly. Firefox 4 is a full conversion optimized for PPC.
     
  23. zen.state macrumors 68020

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    Sorry to tell you but you honestly don't know what the hell you're talking about. Minefield is an official Mozilla project used for things like beta feature development etc. It is what FF will be essentially.

    When you base what you type on delusional thoughts rather than truth or facts it's pretty sad. The code in software makes it what it is.. not the name. You're bordering on truly delusional when you say an app is not FF just because the name is different.

    Minefield IS FireFox.
     
  24. MagnusVonMagnum macrumors 601

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    You don't know WTF you're talking about. Official builds are called FIREFOX, not fraking "Minefield." I don't care if it's Mozilla Community, it's NOT OFFICIAL. You can call names or whatever but you're still clueless. Log on to Firefox's site. Does it offer you a PPC binary? Hell no. :rolleyes:
     

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