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Firefox starts up so slow for me compared to Chrome or Edge (on a PC).

You just made me think about the most irritating thing I deal with -- Microsoft sites. It's frustrating trying to actually log out of a MS site (O365 Admin Center for instance) and log in with another account because it always seems to remember! Let alone, logging into 3 tabs of M365 under 3 different accounts, which is impossible.

I just tried it with Firefox 86.0 and it works fantastically! Finally, I can log in as who I want at MS sites without having to play games trying to get it to forget the last account I logged in as (or using Incognito windows).
This is what Firefox containers really helps with. Check Add-ons - it's a Mozilla created one. Containers were a larger form of the Cookie Jar and really useful for managing multiple accounts on the same site. Cookies saved for one account persist only inside that container.

This latest just takes it one step further and firewalls websites inside a given container.
 
It's really an indictment of the web development industry that this wasn't how cookies were set up to operate from the start.
Agreed!
It's also possible it just wasn't thought that far in advance. Minimum viable product was just having cookies to begin with. I think the real indictment comes from:
1) How long this took to implement
2) The fact that it is seen as necessary
3) The fact that Firefox is the only browser implementing it. Especially considering the hundreds of billions of dollars Google has at its disposal to work on Chrome, as well as it's vested interest in Chrome's quality considering its lion's share of the market.
 
I just tried to log in in my Gmail account from new Firefox and I cannot: do I need to let Google behave as usual ?!
What good alternatives are available to gmail?
 
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nobody uses IE or Edge.
I’ve been using Edge more and more lately, it’s actually rather good. It has a lot of features built in that I find extremely useful: full page screenshot and markup, collections with notes that can be exported Excel, Word, OneNote and Pinterest, translations, read aloud, runs chrome extensions natively and it now has browsing profiles so you can separate work from personal browsing.
 
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I switched to Safari from Firefox about five years ago... but lately I've been going back and forth between the two. One feature I love about Firefox is the ability to set the default for cookies to disappear when the browser closes (you can white-list specific sites). Also, NoScript is very powerful - there's nothing really like it on desktop Safari (on mobile, Purify does a great job in that role).

Unfortunately there are shortcomings with both browsers - so I keep vacillating. :cool:
 
This should be a standard feature in all browsers. Facebook should not know what I am doing on Amazon, and Google should not know what I am clicking on in MacRumors. The whole cookie thing is an archaic relic from the 90s when life was simpler. Some new technology should be implemented instead.

Albeit I am not sure how this new feature works really, need to read more about it.


Fantastic! Now when I'm logged into my Gmail account and visit YouTube in another tab, I'm not automatically logged in. Also, other sites don't prompt me to log in with my Google account.

I just tried. I logged into Gmail, it auto logged me in YouTube, then I went to Spotify that had log in with Google which auto put in my credentials. So I am not sure what they are talking about here about separating the cookie jars.
 
Does Chrome have Any privacy features? Serious question.
Chrome is Spyware. Use Firefox, or if you really like Chrome use Brave which is basically Chrome stripped out of the Google spy code. Its open sourced.

I switched to Safari from Firefox about five years ago... but lately I've been going back and forth between the two. One feature I love about Firefox is the ability to set the default for cookies to disappear when the browser closes (you can white-list specific sites). Also, NoScript is very powerful - there's nothing really like it on desktop Safari (on mobile, Purify does a great job in that role).

Unfortunately there are shortcomings with both browsers - so I keep vacillating. 😆

There is more. You can install plug-ins like uBlock Origin that block all ads/trackers and can stop those pesky "accept cookies" notifications to an extent. There is also a plugin called CookieAutoDelete that will delete cookies after a period you set. For example if you visit Amazon, then leave, after a minute it will auto delete the Amazon cookie so it can not continue to spy on you.

Those plugins are found also on Brave.
 
I want to love Firefox, but it utterly destroys my M1 Air's battery (and any other Mac I've ever owned, for that matter). Like, just having Reddit open and scrolling up and down the page on the trackpad spikes its energy usage to 30-40, whereas Safari stays sub-1.0. Streaming video? Forget it, triple digits.
 
I want to love Firefox, but it utterly destroys my M1 Air's battery (and any other Mac I've ever owned, for that matter). Like, just having Reddit open and scrolling up and down the page on the trackpad spikes its energy usage to 30-40, whereas Safari stays sub-1.0. Streaming video? Forget it, triple digits.
Is your Firefox the Intel build or the M1 build. That makes a huge difference.

Also, Firefox implements Web Render GPU acclerated rendering. I don’t know if is on by default. When I enabled it some months ago it made a huge difference in speed and efficiency.
 
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It's not exactly the best (I did it in Word lol), but I'm going to be waiting for something similar in a few days.
 
I noticed DDG does this on iOS. I can sign into two separate FB accounts at the same time.
Be nice to do this on the desktop. :D
 
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I install Firefox every few months to see if they've made any improvements. I just downloaded this new version, and so far, I like it. It does tend to kick the fans on occasionally on my aging 2017 MBP. The performance is better than Safari, and I've always preferred the FF layout better than Safari. Anyway, time will tell.
 
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