And yes I am aware of all of that, webkit, gecko, freedom, choices, etc.; I wasn't born yesterday thank you very much. See, that's the tone I was talking about. The one where you give me answers to questions I never asked like you have anything to teach me on the matter. You don't have to take my word for it - but I'll just say it anyway - you don't.
In this particular matter (Firefox using WebKit on iOS) no I don't care, Che. And while I support their desire to get their engine into iOS I never supported their total boycott of the platform.
See? You say things which make no sense, so that's why I keep trying to educate you.
Mozilla's whole, only, reason of being is their engine and their push for freedom, and you are
effectively saying (sorry that it hurts you so much) that they should abandon them on iOS to appease Apple. But not only that! Apple has won, Mozilla is not in the app store, "Mozilla is childish" according to you – but no word from you about Apple being overcontrolling; and now Mozilla should still make some Safari skin to appease
you.
"While I support Mozilla's desire to get their engine into iOS I never supported their total boycott of the platform"
is as absurd as
"While I support their desire to open a chinese restaurant, I never supported their total boycott of the pizza market"
(and for iOS before 8, make them
cold pizzas!)
Using any engine other than WebKit on iOS was a fight that Mozilla was never going to win.
Exactly. And that's why it didn't make any sense to even try - and rather they tried other approaches, like Firefox Home. Better use their efforts in something more meaningful while staying true to their goals, and maybe something will change in the meantime.
They've realized that rather than dig their heels in the sandbox like a child, they should offer a direct solution for iOS and stop alienating their desktop crowd and that maybe someday they'll eventually get what they wanted. Maybe you will too.
Interesting that you see it that way. So, to you, resisting for two years, bringing attention to the issue, and refusing to be a Slow Skin for Safari is childish.
I certainly don't agree. Who knows, maybe it's rather that Apple changed their rules in iOS 8 to sweeten their position towards Mozilla and the like? (not for Chrome though, since Chrome gave up without second thoughts!)
And following that: maybe it's thanks to Mozilla's pressure that your iOS Chrome is faster now! That would be funny, wouldn't it?
Sure it sucks for us in the meantime but sometimes life requires compromises, grasshoppa.
Sounds like for you "compromise" means "pull your pants down immediately"?
In the meantime you can resume their previous posture since it's clearly the moral high ground for you.
I don't know about moral high grounds. I care about the future. I don't want a browser monoculture which any given malware or flaw will be able to sweep in one go - and Apple is forcing us in that direction in iOS. And I don't want to depend on a browser tied to a company with clear stakes on its development; I don't want to be back in a world like the Internet Explorer-dominated 2000's, where a single company was able to decide on what and how was done on the whole web.
Is it the moral high ground too? Maybe. Probably. And if so, then I am thankful that Mozilla takes the high road. Someone should, clearly Chrome isn't going to, and Apple sometimes needs some arm-twisting to do it too.
