I've been working with S4 for a little while and am used to it after using FF on a PC for a much longer time. I like the top sites feature. Suddenly, i noticed S4 opens up automatically when i start the comp. It didn't do this before. How do i disable that? I don't see it in preferences. Thanks.
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Firefox vs. Safari
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NoSmokingBandit
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Its under Accounts in System Preferences. Look for the Login Items tab.
Yeah, its weird placement.
Yeah, its weird placement.
Firefox drives me crazy, as it is crash prone, and I've had to reinstall it several times. However, I still take it over Safari for the simple reason of all the extensions I use everyday - there's really no competition on that front.
Are you running it on Linux, OS X, or Windows?
If you're on OS X - "reinstalling" it doesn't do anything as all of its data is stored in a different location (other than /Applications). Same goes for Linux. Same also goes for Windows but that's the only one I can really see needing a re-install. Though I'd have to say the problem is most likely with your computer as FF nor SF4 is crash prone for any platform. Unless you're using a beta or something, in which case, that's a different story.
Its all good now. The other more obvious one is just simply pressing on the S4 icon on the doc for a sec and unchecking 'open at login'. 😱
pasipple
macrumors 6502a
I'm pretty much a newbie with Mac and now Safari, and Firefox. I'm a long time PC guy using IE8 who migrated to Mac two weeks ago when I bought a 15" MacBook Pro. I love it. I had a 5 year old IBM notebook so it was time to upgrade....so I thought I'd try out a Mac. I should have migrated to Mac years ago. I love this thing. Backlit keyboard, glossy screen, doc, et...etc...too much to love. I am extremely impressed with the build quality on my MacBook Pro. The keyboard is just beautiful! Anyway...I transgressed away from the thread topic...sorry.
Anyway, I have been using Firefox and love it. Maybe I just haven't given Safari much of a look.
The one thing that turned me off to Safari was...no web icons in the bookmark toolbar. Explore and Firefox have the nice colored icons which makes it infinitly easier to quickly identify.
Am I missing something in Safari? I couldn't find and settings that would allow Safari to display colored icons in the toolbar.
Anyway, I have been using Firefox and love it. Maybe I just haven't given Safari much of a look.
The one thing that turned me off to Safari was...no web icons in the bookmark toolbar. Explore and Firefox have the nice colored icons which makes it infinitly easier to quickly identify.
Am I missing something in Safari? I couldn't find and settings that would allow Safari to display colored icons in the toolbar.
You may want to consider getting Glims for Safari. Among the numerous features it offers, one of them is also the favicons!
Download it here: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27708/glims
If Safari (or Chrome for that matter) could use the AdBlock Plus extension I would drop Firefox in a heartbeat. None of the available adblocking solutions for Safari come close to working as well as ABP.
NoSmokingBandit
macrumors 68000
Theres quite a few extensions on Firefox i cant live without, AdBlock being the most important. I wouldnt use Safari, but maybe Chrome if AdBlock were written for it.
Porco
macrumors 68040
I use and like both, but I like Safari that bit better overall. Especially with the excellent ClickToFlash.
GlimmerBlocker + elementhider.CSS file for Safari = Ad blocking heaven.
After you install GlimmerBlocker all you have to do is save the css file then go to preferences > advanced > style sheet in Safari and you have an amazing adblocking solution for Safari.
Anyway, I use Safari. The only two add ons I even use for firefox are adblock plus and greasemonkey, both of which can be done all in one with glimmerblocker. Speed + function = 😀
pasipple
macrumors 6502a
Thanks for the heads up on Glims. I've installed it...and it works great for adding icons to the tabs...but no icons on the bookmark toolbar? Glims doesn't do this?
Any other plug-ins that would?
little bit off topic
can anybody solve problem i have with tabs
reinstalling, deleting safari folder in library doesnt help
can anybody solve problem i have with tabs
reinstalling, deleting safari folder in library doesnt help
little bit off topic
can anybody solve problem i have with tabs
reinstalling, deleting safari folder in library doesnt help
I don't understand the problem with the tabs?
Also, I use safari because in my opinion it seems more stable than firefox. On PC, firefox seems to be more stable than it is on mac but again that's just my opinion
Totally know what you mean. I was on an old trusty G4 for a long time. Upgraded to 17" MBP....its enhanced my daily work and what i do enormously. So smooth and streamlined.
I'm glad that he likes his Mac, but let's be honest, migrating from IEX to anything is a huge upgrade.
Unfair comparison, IMO. I hate when end users use Internet Explorer and "blame it" on non-macs like that's the problem. Both the available as well as a few other great browsers (such as chrome) are available in Windows.
A lot of people don't understand that FF is open source and works on any OS while IE (or sometimes Safari) is simply what you're stuck with if you're a useless end user 🙁). Makes for very useless comparisons, especially coming from IE.
I like both Webkit *and* Firefox
(I'm not as experienced as most of you: 10 years Windoze and only 2 years MacOSX.) As a web designer, I have occasion to use both Webkit and FF (and Camino and Opera and Chrome ...and any other browser I can wrap a cursor around.)
I keep up with Webkit and FF (and Camino) nightlies. As all of you've pointed out, both have their many bennies.
FF is certainly slower to start. On my box (2G MBP, 10.6.2) FF renders pages just a tiny hair more slowly. Fonts are a visual size smaller (though Preferences are identical). And danged if I can get FF (or Camino) to scroll smoothly on Twitter - just that one website, and no other website of which I'm aware: could it be due to the links on each username?
I have a minimal set of FF add-ons, though, that make the browser an occasional "must" - Web Developer, Colorzilla, and FireFTP. For the last, I can use FileZilla, but FireFTP often proves more robust.
And for one more factor, political? I resent the "fact" that GOOG has AAPL "in its pocket" insofar as having GOOG as THE ONLY search engine available on the Webkit toolbar. (I've installed Glims to overcome this shortcoming...but who knows how long this'll last, in light of the demise of Inspector last time around?)
I truly appreciate the hearty discussions in this thread, and will keep watching here for more. For now, I keep trying FF now and again, maybe even for days at a time; but I find I keep falling back to Webkit.
Regards.🙂
(I'm not as experienced as most of you: 10 years Windoze and only 2 years MacOSX.) As a web designer, I have occasion to use both Webkit and FF (and Camino and Opera and Chrome ...and any other browser I can wrap a cursor around.)
I keep up with Webkit and FF (and Camino) nightlies. As all of you've pointed out, both have their many bennies.
FF is certainly slower to start. On my box (2G MBP, 10.6.2) FF renders pages just a tiny hair more slowly. Fonts are a visual size smaller (though Preferences are identical). And danged if I can get FF (or Camino) to scroll smoothly on Twitter - just that one website, and no other website of which I'm aware: could it be due to the links on each username?
I have a minimal set of FF add-ons, though, that make the browser an occasional "must" - Web Developer, Colorzilla, and FireFTP. For the last, I can use FileZilla, but FireFTP often proves more robust.
And for one more factor, political? I resent the "fact" that GOOG has AAPL "in its pocket" insofar as having GOOG as THE ONLY search engine available on the Webkit toolbar. (I've installed Glims to overcome this shortcoming...but who knows how long this'll last, in light of the demise of Inspector last time around?)
I truly appreciate the hearty discussions in this thread, and will keep watching here for more. For now, I keep trying FF now and again, maybe even for days at a time; but I find I keep falling back to Webkit.
Regards.🙂
This thread is STILL alive?!?
For speed, performance, etc.:
Safari is clearly the winner. It renders web pages faster and much more elegantly. Webkit-based browsers just perform better than Gecko. Chrome, another Webkit browser still kicks Firefox right where it hurts despite being beta (for Mac). You can't argue this because every speed, javascript and other performance benchmark places Safari first, Chrome second and Firefox dead last. If you include Opera or IE in there, they replace Firefox as dead last.
The only reason why Firefox is still around is because it has thousands of plugins and runs on all three platforms, Windows, Mac and Linux. It's also the first choice that comes to mind when you don't like IE.
For speed, performance, etc.:
Safari is clearly the winner. It renders web pages faster and much more elegantly. Webkit-based browsers just perform better than Gecko. Chrome, another Webkit browser still kicks Firefox right where it hurts despite being beta (for Mac). You can't argue this because every speed, javascript and other performance benchmark places Safari first, Chrome second and Firefox dead last. If you include Opera or IE in there, they replace Firefox as dead last.
The only reason why Firefox is still around is because it has thousands of plugins and runs on all three platforms, Windows, Mac and Linux. It's also the first choice that comes to mind when you don't like IE.
You write as usual only nonsense 🙂
Where is Safari clearly the winner?
Only on the Sunspider JavaScript Benchmark and there only with a very small benefit. There are many other Benchmarks and these other are not even better or worse, compared to Sunspider.
When you use for example the V8 Benchmark from Google looks Safari compared to Chrome like a cripple.
Is Safari a cripple?
Or should you show maybe more skepticism about these Benchmarks?
And try it self - the most popular JavaScript Benchmarks:
from Futuremark http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action
from Google: http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/benchmarks/v5/run.html
from Mozilla: http://dromaeo.com/
from Apple - Webkit: http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html
It is fine, when you don't like Firefox, but don't write every time this crap.
Currently have Chrome, Firefox and Safari a modern JavaScript Engine and for example Opera, IE or Camino not.
By the way,
Firefox 3.6 has then as usual countless improvements,
but a Safari Fan-boy like you will probably see not even one - as usual 😱
Cheers