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First Apple Car to Be Fully Autonomous and Designed to Operate Without a Driver
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I highly doubt Apple would ever create a b-to-b product at this scale. Especially if it is going to be their first product in a given category. They may be planning some kind of a service, and these vehicles would be part of that. But there’s very little chance they create a fleet vehicle for other businesses. Just ain’t their thing.
I’m guessing it will be some kind of car service, and the cities it will be offered in first are the ones that have “Look Around” street view imagery in Apple Maps.
Repeated again and again before any major technological change, when someone else is driving you, do you react with inner amusement when they start swearing at a driver who cut them off, why does it bother the driver but it really doesn't bother you, I would like to have that non stress feeling behind the wheel.
Apple Car (eg: self driving Uber)
then a few years later when they get enough production volume...
Apple Car+ (subscription car service for those who want 24/7 access to a car)
I already elaborated on that - here - something like ride hailing and/or Apple TV to throw against competition to have a foot in the new big mobility market - its a move out of fear. Tim Hollywood would never do a car except out of fear missing out!
I get the sense you kinda hate the thruth - for your field of consciousness - yes apple and telsa do and did the same - apple only protected the customer and their battery!
Wrong thought process of yours not considering my and other posts
Income vehicle. Tesla says that anyone who bought FSD can expect their vehicles to make them $10-20K per year, depending on how many hours per week they permit the vehicle to be working as a robotaxi.
This is the weirdest take i ever read about this topic , i can understand the fear of being an early adaptor , i can relate to the fact of ppl wanting to own the car as their own and dont sit where other folks were sitting just now , note that if we had robotaxi service in the last year , they would be bankrupt , as no way you can just robotaxi your way in Corona times.
But to say that you dont see Autonomous driving future ? ppl are fine with driving ? listen not sure who you talked to , but when you are on the 405 or 101 at 9AM of a work day , i will bet any money i have that most of the folks would rather sleep or read or watch a movie rather then do the bumper to bumper for 1 to 2 hours every day.
First Apple Car to Be Fully Autonomous and Designed to Operate Without a Driver
Whaaaaat??!!
Fully autonomous AND able to operate without a driver?!
No way!!!
I can believe either one, but not both.
😂😉
It's only a weird take to you because your general perception of autonomous driving comes from living in a tech blog bubble where this fantasy is talked about regularly as if it were something that had any prayer of mainstream adoption. It doesn't. This idea is a complete delusion. The most it will ever see is small applications, and we're decades away from those too.
Honestly - I and many of us are dreaming of self driving cars their live time.
I think you have a problem slipping in other peoples shoes.
Just some examples - the elderly generation 70+ is a perfect customer for self driving.
Families dealing with kids.
People with bad eye sight
Road situation with bad view - like fog
And just the short city drives where you might wanna text your friends instead of waiting for the green light.
Not seeing autonomous as THE future makes me roll-eyes
How is that trolling? Waymo actually has vehicles on the road collecting data. Unless Apple is planning on doing dramatically different to what Waymo is doing, I don't see how this can work in Apple's favor.
I think it’s an offshoot of this setup. As a passenger in the car, one of the possible options may be to intentionally crash the vehicle before it can hit any pedestrians. Or if not that severe of an intentional action just a maneuver that gives the greatest odds of survival to outsiders but increases the risk to the occupants of the car. Is the AI obligated to put the highest priority on the occupants? The survivors of the people hurt or killed could sue the car owner and/or the company providing the safety features. And if the AI is set to save someone other than the owners or renter of the vehicle are they then liable at least economically for those deaths?
The change from the classic version of this problem is that it guarantees that at least 1 third party is also in the ethical loop. The car driver could decide one thing but the AI might decide another. Or the AI may be the ONLY decider. And if that is the case would people feel comfortable not having any choice in the matter? And if the AI decides, would the car company be 100% responsible for the decision if that car company buys the technology from a third party? And if a sensor is made by still another company.....how many possible variables and independent contributing companies does a law or regulation need to cover?
This is the reason why I don’t think full Auto driving cars will be legally on the road soon. It’s not the technology it’s the legal conundrums.
The list of people saying Apple is “X years behind in Y industry and shouldn’t even try” is longer than any of the predictors or competitors would like to admit.
Speculating on how far Apple (a secretive company) is behind Google (a transparent company) is pure conjecture and fairly pointless. Apple was 40 years behind Intel and that didn’t stop them from lapping Intel with their first M1 chip.
That’s a vague response that means nothing to me. If you have a specific point please share it.
LOL. You must have missed it. They’ve refreshed the iMac twice in the last couple of years.
But not much. I have a friend who bought an iMac last summer after that refresh and the difference between that computer and mine-bought in February of 2016- in performance isn’t terribly significant. Both are 27 inch iMacs: mine had the most powerful Intel I could order in 2016 and he did the same in 2020. I have 24 GB of memory he has 32. Can’t say that I see a huge difference between them, although we haven’t run any specific performance software on both to compare numbers. We both thought that the M1 laptops showed a bigger increase from 2016 to 2021 even comparing the M1’s to his iMac.
Sounds like you're not in the FSD beta
LOL at judging FSD progress based on pre-rewrite of autopilot software.
Tesla Tells California DMV that FSD Is Not Capable of Autonomous Driving
After years of touting its long-awaited Full Self-Driving feature, Tesla is telling California regulators a different story about its capabilities.
TLDR;
"After years of touting its long-awaited Full Self-Driving feature, Tesla is telling California regulators a different story about its capabilities."
Oh well.
Tesla Tells California DMV that FSD Is Not Capable of Autonomous Driving
After years of touting its long-awaited Full Self-Driving feature, Tesla is telling California regulators a different story about its capabilities.www.caranddriver.com
TLDR;
"After years of touting its long-awaited Full Self-Driving feature, Tesla is telling California regulators a different story about its capabilities."
Oh well.
The letter talks about Tesla's "City Streets" feature which is not Full Self Driving. "City Streets" is a feature for...wait for it... city streets. City Streets doesn't even include smart auto park which will be coming to the final release of FSD.
And maybe, I don't know, read the actual letter:
"Please note that Tesla’s development of true autonomous features (SAE Levels 3+) will follow our iterative process (development, validation, early release, etc.) and any such features will not be released to the general public until we have fully validated them and received any required regulatory permits or approvals"