I love apple these days. Keep churning out the same old stuff and keep talking about a future they'll never achieve. Brilliant Tim Apple!
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First Apple Car to Be Fully Autonomous and Designed to Operate Without a Driver
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You are comparing apples with sexy shorts. ofCourse the car tries to prevent harm - apple throttled permanently without warning or potential harm. It was a design flaw!
Not probably wrong but full of wishful thinking and completely wrong - although everybody already tells you what makes sense!
I want an Apple car with an Apple bed in it so I can sleep through the trip, but I can't afford the optional Apple pillow at $2999.
Even a horse is smarter than Siri. Enjoy your relabeled Siri car. Rather get a US made Tesla designed from the ground up.
That is the problem with humans driving. While driving we get bored or react to stimulus like a bell ringing when a new message is received.
Lack of paved roads is not a problem for my car's system. But there still needs to be some sort of guidance given to say how to get from point A to point B. So an unpaved dirt road that is mapped on the GPS would work. But an unmapped dirt trail would not work.
I think it's more about "value." Hyundai/Kia's main sales strategy is to undercut rivals either by offering lower price for similar options or better features and options for the same price.
Where is the fun in driving in general. Most driving (76% according to google) is commuting point A to point B and back again, day after day, year after year. How is it fun to stare at the bumper of the cars in front of you for an hour on a trip that would take 15 minutes outside of commute time?
I don't think Tesla has a subscription model. For a while, they did not even lease some models.My car is a semi storage unit as well, bikes for kids , tents , poyka pot , beach stuff , cars are cheap now days (unless you insist on luxury cars , in that case you shouldn't care about money) , the reason to use such cars is the "don't drive and have fun during the ride" prospect , which I love , but I would like to own the car so it can have the things I need at an arms reach , but I guess the future is ownerless cars subscription , it what will make the most money for the companies , so they will gravitate there and make the lawmakers help them prevent me from owning a car , you can look at Tesla subscription models right now , its only going to get worse.
Google has had cars on the road for 5 years. Apple cars are just now being spotted doing testing.
dont know where you live/drive but up here there are times where you cant tell where curbs and dont see lines for days here in Maine there are areas with no map detail and no internet - how can a car figure out where to go
Ability to drive automatically ok but i need to be able to drive it also.
Tesla's autopilot system does point to point navigation. It still requires the human to be there and ready to take control, but it can do most of the tedious stuff, like taking the right ramps, maintaining safe distances, changing lanes, etc. It works best on highways but does OK on city streets.
There is a new test version that seems to work even in parking lots, but only a few select car owners have it for testing. Here is a YouTube video on the test version. Note the graphical display of objects may not appear in the final version.
Completely agree with the that a human drive should be able to take control. That is how the Tesla Autopilot systems work now. It is an aid not a replacement for the human. You can turn it on or off at any point, and deactivate it by simply tapping on the brakes or manually turning the wheel.
Well, the good news here is that Hyundai/Kia's R&D department is run by Al Biermann, formerly of BMW's M Division and now also in charge of Hyundai's performance N division, and Design dept by Peter Shreyer and now Luc Donckerwolke, not French, but close enough. Rimac known for high-performance EV also reportedly helped engineer Hyundai's EV drivetrain.
I'm really looking forward to Hyunda's new EV Ioniq 5 based on E-GIMP set to debut this month and Genesis EVs later this year.
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I really don't mind if Apple plans for a car, be my guest, knock yourself out. I'm wanting to hear an announcement on a refreshed iMac and then go crazy with a car. Long over due for a refresh.
In a major urban area I can see that this might work but not once you leave that area. There is a snow storm here right now and anything trying to find a curb or a line to use as guides would be out of luck. And both Google maps and Apple can be months behind on new or modified roads. A 4 lane highway went in 3 years ago replacing a 2 lane one and neither one showed up correctly in either map database for a few months. The road goes from a small commuter town to a big (ok, big for my area) city. A system that used map data/GPS only would think it was driving in a cornfield. And a system that tried to follow long lines couldn’t see them this morning, and a system that relied on cell towers to get data would have 3 or 4 major dead spots in an 8 mile stretch. The big city has 5G, the commuter city has 5G, the area in between has anything from 3G to no signal.
San Francisco, LA, San Diego, Seattle, Portland on the West coast and most of the East coast might have the infrastructure but after that it becomes islands here and there. They might be big islands but millions of miles of roads probably won’t be supported for some time.
San Francisco, LA, San Diego, Seattle, Portland on the West coast and most of the East coast might have the infrastructure but after that it becomes islands here and there. They might be big islands but millions of miles of roads probably won’t be supported for some time.
If there were tire tracks to follow many systems can use those as a proxy for lane markings. The cars usually visually determine the number of lanes since lanes versus using database information. This is because lanes can be shut down for construction, restriping, accidents, and such. Regarding the lack of connectivity, the car usually buffers a 10s to 100s of miles of roads. We have crap AT&T service by me and the car continues to navigate fine even when AT&T drops out for an hour or so. But, I assume it would not get updates on wrecks without a connection so you might get stuck in a traffic jam instead of being rerouted around it.
Insurance companies may not be so enthusiastic about it until many more vehicles can be demonstrated to have perfect driving records under software control. And "pending regulations" is a gigantic, years-long hurdle--local, state and federal regs would have to be established, and right now there are just about zero legislations being promulgated.
Pretty sure you’ll still need a license in the event you need to take over
What is there to be seen ? the only period of time where this might be problematic is the very early stage where we have a mix of standards and humans all driving together , but once the early phase is over , there is no doubt that the amount of accidents will decrease , the amount of compute that the machine can do at any given time without getting tired or distracted is putting us humans to shame , the response time is also off the charts , just look at the world best chess player , he cannot beat todays AI`s even if they are running on years old computers , computers evolve every year , we humans do not , so again , once the early stages are done , machines will drive better then us and they will improve all the time , that's the cold hard fact , there should be no speculations on this matter.
Not to mention how bad maps is, which the car would presumably be tapping into for directions. I still get bad or wrong directions from maps often enough that it stands out.
My take: We are looking at this the wrong way round. Everyone assumes Apple is making a hardware play, I think they are doing a services play and will launch their own Uber-like service. They will start small with a pilot in a few locations where the autonomy can be managed, monitored and improved.
Rationale:
- Apple's strategy is to move into services enabled by hardware
- Competing with a tech company like Uber is more their wheelhouse than taking on Ford etc
- Apple has that large investment with a Chinese lift sharing company (good way to buy into the market to understand)
- Uber is iPhone app based and enabled by the iPhone platform
- Uber started partially because of the terrible taxis in the bay area
- Uber's business practices in the past have been questionable so Apple could see themselves as helping clean up the industry (albeit by making all the drivers out of a job)
- Something like 80% of the cost of an Uber is the driver so take the driver out then you have the opportunity for a high margin business
And after I wrote all this, I was googling to see if Apple still owned the ride-sharing company and found this:
www.bbc.co.uk
Rationale:
- Apple's strategy is to move into services enabled by hardware
- Competing with a tech company like Uber is more their wheelhouse than taking on Ford etc
- Apple has that large investment with a Chinese lift sharing company (good way to buy into the market to understand)
- Uber is iPhone app based and enabled by the iPhone platform
- Uber started partially because of the terrible taxis in the bay area
- Uber's business practices in the past have been questionable so Apple could see themselves as helping clean up the industry (albeit by making all the drivers out of a job)
- Something like 80% of the cost of an Uber is the driver so take the driver out then you have the opportunity for a high margin business
And after I wrote all this, I was googling to see if Apple still owned the ride-sharing company and found this:
Didi Chuxing: Apple-backed firm aims for one million robotaxis
Didi Chuxing plans to have the self-driving vehicles operational by 2030.
www.bbc.co.uk