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I'm pretty much a huge advocate for social justice. I understand that people may have been distastefully bigoted in the past. It pretty much goes with the territory of the landscape of the society we once lived within. It's easy for society to progress forward and then condemn the past rhetoric of people who really just went with how society went, but is it restorative to just blacklist and recast such people? Without restorative justice, an opportunity to atone, and make right their past errors? Social justice is just not that effective. We are better when we bridge the divides between us and work together to create a more brilliant society.

I'm a transgender woman. I've identified as such since the early 00s. I have been terrorized, dehumanized, and isolated throughout the years. I have been treated so badly that thinking back on some, or most of my experiences from then to the present date makes me cry, it fills me with sorrow, but we are stronger if we rehabilitate, acknowledge past mistakes, and commit to progressing forward, and that's what I focus on. I take the anger and fury I feel from past misdeeds against me and use them to propel me forward.
A problem though is some not grasping the full reach of social networks yet.

I've always said if your job involves personal branding or you can be seen as the face of something... social networks can be your biggest friend or enemy. I don't care if you are weapons dealer that supplies to the worst of the world, who are wanted by the Hague. Crap you say today will be around somewhere years from now, what you said as on 'off color' joke amongst friends years ago is saved for today.

Social networks are the biggest bag of receipts, and someone will dig thru that bag eventually.

If one wants to truly atone or make right, the time to do it, is BEFORE you get caught for those things.

When you start shining in the public eye, make your PR person proud and start that redemption tour THEN. Going on the redemption tour AFTER you get busted, seeing NOW what you did or said hurt others is just seen as mouth noises. Being apologetic AFTER you get booted from a job, is a bit late to have a mea culpa. One gets sacked by a company for such a past, because they either were blindsided and/or they are covering their own butts.

As our society becomes more sensitive to the issues of people everyday, the time for owning up to being a relic of the past is BEFORE someone digs up that relic. That same sensitivity we are gaining for others can certainly spare some sensitivity for those who are making the effort to genuinely grow from who they were, along with the rest of us.
 
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Let more tears flow...
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I liked the actress in "God Friended Me". It will be up to the writing as to whether we keep watching the show. My wife and I have been seeing commercials to "catch up" on the show and we both have the same response:

"Why bother. None of it matters."
 
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I still would've preferred that they just recast the role of Kate Kane, but I'm fine with this. I just don't know how she's gonna convincingly get that afro under her cowl. 😄

Bracing for Round 2 of the inevitable "social justice warrior" complaints. :rolleyes:
 
I still would've preferred that they just recast the role of Kate Kane, but I'm fine with this. I just don't know how she's gonna convincingly get that afro under her cowl. 😄

Hey, they had the actress bald for part of "God Friended Me". I also wish that they had recast Kate Kane just to maintain the dynamics between Batwoman, Alice, and Mr. Kane.
 
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I still would've preferred that they just recast the role of Kate Kane, but I'm fine with this. I just don't know how she's gonna convincingly get that afro under her cowl. 😄

Bracing for Round 2 of the inevitable "social justice warrior" complaints. :rolleyes:
To answer that first question

For the second point, this is me at the moment I read that, and imagined 'fanboys' seeing it for the first time as well...
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Yup, you can have the best actress in the world, but if the writing sucks, the show will most likely suck as well.

Rose was not the reason for the show being the worst of the Arrowverse.
Looks like the show is still horrible.

That first episode was beyond horrible. The writing has to be the worse of the Arrowverse. It would have been nice to maybe bring some new writers in with the new Batwoman, but it is just as bad as ever.


The Arrowverse has died with Oliver Queen, and it was on life support up until then, imo.

I think I am done with the Arrowverse, and probably CW all together now that Supernatural is done.


The show Arrow started out good, but around season 4(?) started to get a little silly and bad, although still watchable. The spin offs all tend to be more on the silly side, but I kept up with them because I like Arrow. Now, I am a few seasons behind on a couple of the Arrowverse shows, and probably going to just give up on all of them.

I really liked Legends at first, but the show took a turn for the worse after Rip left. Now all the more interesting Characters keep leaving, while the duds stay behind to welcome more duds.

Maybe I will wait for Batwoman, all the rest of the Arrowverse shows to be over (or more likely cancelled), and then watch them all when they get to streaming.

I doubt I will buy any of them on Blu-ray, with the exception of maybe Arrow.

my own gold standard for comparison has always been Gotham.
I really miss Gotham now, and am very sad to see it go.
 
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Based off of the performance of season 1 and the horrible first episode of season 2, I didn't think there was going to be a season 3 of Batwoman, but I saw this today:


I was going to wait for the show to be totally over to watch rest of it, but it looks like I will have to wait even longer. Not really sad about it.

With the massive viewership loss of the show, it is curious to why CW is allowing season 2 to even continue let alone announce season 3. I wonder if it is more of a "we can't let this show fail" scenario rather than a logical reasoning for it to continue.


It is a shame, I wanted something good, like Gotham, but the writing for Batwoman is horrible, even for CW. They should just let it die and start fresh with better writers.
 
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Based off of the performance of season 1 and the horrible first episode of season 2, I didn't think there was going to be a season 3 of Batwoman, but I saw this today:


I was going to wait for the show to be totally over to watch rest of it, but it looks like I will have to wait even longer. Not really sad about it.

With the massive viewership loss of the show, it is curious to why CW is allowing season 2 to even continue let alone announce season 3. I wonder if it is more of a "we can't let this show fail" scenario rather than a logical reasoning for it to continue.


It is a shame, I wanted something good, like Gotham, but the writing for Batwoman is horrible, even for CW. They should just let it die and start fresh with better writers.
Multiple places reporting that CW is now cancelling Batwoman.

It looks like it might get a shorten third season, but it does appear that the show is done.
 
Yikes, even Ruby Rose is calling the CW Batwoman show "awful".

Not sure why she took so long, but she is finally revealing why she left the show. If you read her post, some of it seems silly, but a lot of it, if you want to believe her, sounds justified. Especially the unsafe working conditions and the cover up of on-set injuries.

Not sure why it took her so long to tell the real story. Maybe too many people asking her if she would ever make an appearance on the show again, and her getting frustrated knowing that it wouldn't even be an option for her since she was actually fired.

I am always a little skeptical of allegations like this way after the fact, if it was really that bad, she probably should have said something when it was happening.

Either way, it sounds like getting fired worked out better for Rose, as the Batwoman tv show is being cancelled anyways, and the show went from bad to worse, losing over 80% of the initial viewers during the second season.

 
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