1x extra TB4 port, capability to drive 2 external monitors, extra RAM will give the edge in most workflows.
No brainer to me.
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1x extra TB4 port, capability to drive 2 external monitors, extra RAM will give the edge in most workflows.
No brainer to me.
M3 regular seems to be no pair with m1/m2 pro so i think with 16 gb of ram or 24 its gonna be preety fast for you. old i5 in an imac is not comperable. I'm going to waint wor the m3 airs to appear.
I didn't.
But not THE fastest, or even in the top 10-20%. Apple managed that in the Intel days, and arguably in the PowerPC days.
Fun to think that they don't!
Tim Cook: Ah, it's just random. Let's see where it takes us!
I think we have different views on what “destination” means. Apple has a direction, not a destination.
They are already differentiated. 120hz better screens. Active cooling. And you can configure the Pro models with a better cpu/gpu, more storage, more ram, and more ports. Source: https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/?modelList=MacBook-Air-M2-15,MacBook-Pro-14-M2,MacBook-Pro-14-M3x
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Perhaps not the place for rumour, but I suspect many businesses like mine did not upgrade at all to the M2, and I suspect adverse publicity, sometimes rather OTT may have contributed to an M2 inventory surplus that Apple has.
It would never surprise me now to see a low cost M2 MacBook to use up what I suspect is an M2 chip surplus.
Whilst not always a good idea to go backwards, a cheap reliable MacBook would I'm sure be appreciated by students and educational establishments. Obviously it won't serve the high end user, as even the current M3 line up probably doesn't as technological and performance needs grow, but it could be a good way of removing any M2 surpluses.
It would never surprise me now to see a low cost M2 MacBook to use up what I suspect is an M2 chip surplus.
Whilst not always a good idea to go backwards, a cheap reliable MacBook would I'm sure be appreciated by students and educational establishments. Obviously it won't serve the high end user, as even the current M3 line up probably doesn't as technological and performance needs grow, but it could be a good way of removing any M2 surpluses.
This is excellent advise, and why I want at least 24GB on my next Mac.
True. However experience shows Geekbench is a good general gross performance estimate. Especially IMO to see how the big differences among base/pro max levels may be more relevant than M1/M2/M3 levels. Then specific onboard RAM of course has huge impact to most real work.
These numbers are great but we're going to need to see the hard-hitting apps doing their thing for this to mean anything.
Especially the numbers for this range versus a m1 Max. M3 line should be compared almost exclusively against the M3 Max because that's the best of what you can pull out of that generation. It's a great way to gauge where you're at and how far you can go with the M3 Max later on. I think.
yeah, at this point, Apple silicon releases have this "problem" with M1 and M2 the same, the Mac Stuido M1 came up and few months later the M2 Pro/Max laptops were released, so same problem.
I guess laptops are a top selling and flagship models for Apple, for pro and consumers at once, but Mac Studio are for pure pro users with some extra studio features as more ports, better ventilation and so on. It would be harder to release all systems at once, and marketing team wont like it either
So yes, if you buy the Mac Studio Max, your SOC will be at half life span...
I chose the MS Max over the MBP Max hoping throttling will be noticeable in long term as I Neat video and Topaz renders takes evena whole day, so it would be too much for the laptop. But I cant find "real-render" comparation test beyond the classic and pointless 3 minutes render in Final Cut...
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In 2020 20th Nov Intel got scary too fast, I guess now they are quite relaxing after M3, although... will see M3 Ultra 
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I have M1 Max and I am just glad to see Apple push the envelope. I won’t upgrade this year I’m patiently waiting on Apple to introduce thunderbolt 5.
I know a lot of people are dismayed by the pricing of the MacBook Pros, especially the Max models, but please be aware that Windows mobile workstations can be far more expensive. Those are what I used before I switched to Apple. My last HP ZBook cost $6998, and that was not even the highest specification. Dell Precision mobile workstations are not far behind.
Putting the base M3 in the 14" MBP body with Pro features, is about giving options to those who don't need the extra Pro/Max GPU power, but are willing to pay for the other stuff. Makes absolute sense.
Yeah sure, but what does that even mean? Is it just a con to get you to buy more RAM? Why can't we have the actual figures, rather than a vague pretty color chart?
You can get lots of RAM usage metrics for every process via Activity Monitor, or OS command line tools such as “top”, “vm_stat” and others. You will need to understand what the numbers mean and how macOS allocates memory, but the info is there.
The simplest thing is to look at the amount/throughput of data written & read from page files (page ins and page outs) to understand how much “memory shuffling” is taking place between RAM and storage. The bandwidth of this traffic is the important thing, not so much the total swap space used.
If you are consistently reading/writing, say 50% of your RAM within ”a few minutes”, or a significant percentage of your SSD’s bandwidth, then you are likely affecting performance, and also possibly accelerating wear on your SSD.
macOS used to show “page ins” and “page outs” in MB/s in the activity monitor, but it seems to have gone. You can find this info with “vm_stat”.
Apple surely stress tests Logic Pro with real world conditions. They should announce the results. The M3 can play this many instruments while recording this many tracks, the M3 Pro can do this many, etc.
Ah, thanks for that.
"...macOS used to show “page ins” and “page outs” in MB/s in the activity monitor, but it seems to have gone..." Yeah, Apple keeps on REMOVING functionality from macOS these days, it's so damn annoying. Smells of obfuscation, thus the vibe of my previous answer.
It is probably hard for them to give an absolute figure because it would depend on individual conditions, such as other applications / running on the users machine, specific combinations of plug-ins / effects etc.
I don't use Logic Pro, but I've seen many YouTube videos for the likes of Max Tech, Tech Chap etc. who have tested the number of Logic Pro tracks supported on different Macs. I have no doubt that they will also be testing the M3 Macs, although I would recommend you find a channel / review that is from someone who specialises in audio editing with Logic Pro, because the mainstream reviews tend to be very generic.
In the short term, look at results for the M2 chips to get a ballpark figure. This is an example I found at the top of a Google search for "Apple M2 Logic Pro performance":
Honestly only those who do video work and compiling will really reap the benefit of this increase for the majority of the population the speed bump doesnt really do anything. What’s a 20 percent increase in speed for something that is done in seconds anyway which is probably 80 percent of the work done