I could be wrong, but I feel that the MBA from now on will always be one generation behind.
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I could be wrong, but I feel that the MBA from now on will always be one generation behind.
The 12-inch was thinner (though this is hard to quantify, due to its design) and 63% lighter.
Here is a more comprehensive comparison of M1 vs M3: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/3343726?baseline=3343551
HobeSoundDarryl
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When Geekbench scores are:
- Apple flattering, they absolutely translate to daily experience.
- NOT flattering, they have practically no translation to daily experience and Geekbench "needs to be redesigned."
- positive on Apple, they are gospel and evangelized/quoted.
- negative, they are wrong/outdated and/or engaged in a conspiracy to undermine Apple or manipulate stock pricing.
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Yep us 3D artist have been wishing for raytracing since the M1 days. Glad it’s finally here. This is one area where Nvidia has been absolutely killing it. CPU wise, Apple has already done a fantastic job but I was very happy to see all the GPU improvements this year.
Apparently the M series and A series chips have split off starting with the M3 so I’m definitely looking forward to seeing what else Apple does in the future now that their Mac silicon team has more flexibility.
No. A ton of imperative code parallelizes poorly.
Do you want Apple to artificially throttle the M3 Max so people with the M2 Max aren't upset? 🤨
Don't be sarcastic, I'm Just stating facts. Also, where is the M3 Max mac studio? By time the new mac studios come out with m3 max, m4 max will be right around the corner.
HobeSoundDarryl
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Apple can't put down M2 to prop up M3 because there are more Macs for sale during the holiday season with M2 than M3. M1 was just put out to pasture with the iMac update... so fair game for "long in tooth" comparisons because there are is no more M1 for sale as new from Apple. Intel is easier to compare because that's 2023 vs. 2020 (or older), which should yield big, interesting numbers for quick-hit marketing messaging.
It's always about the money. 💰💰💰
Can't wait to find out if M3 Pro is slower than M2 Pro with all the downgrades...
I mean this is what happened with M1 Max Studio users when the M2 Max Macbook Pro came out. Whats different now?
And there's no better moneygrab move than to release a just-good-enough iteration and always withhold the big guns for the next move
…um. Literally any GUI code is single-threaded, for example. As are most data operations, as you first need to partition the data and keep syncing issues in mind.
Making an algorithm multi-threaded is something you have to carefully opt in to.
When Apple upgrades frequently, people whine that they just bought something and it's already out of date. When Apple upgrades infrequently, people whine that products are long in the tooth.
I asked Joz not to release it because it might upset people who have an M2 Max.
Yeah, so you see why this entire conversation is moot.
I wish the benchmarks were in real-world units, like how many Logic Pro virtual tracks can it play before hiccup, or how fast can it copy a TB hard drive, etc. I’ve looked for this answer for years, but still don’t know if I need 16GB of RAM or a Pro chip to run my studio, or if M2 is enough. Everyone will say “just pay for the RAM to be sure” etc, but rather spend difference on a better interface or microphone, you know? I don’t make huge productions, but I’ve still hit processor overload on my i5 iMac with 24 GB.
I bought an absolute top spec iMac some years ago on launch day. Within a few months, a new model MacBook Pro was introduced that was faster than my iMac.
Was I disappointed or felt I'd been taken for a ride? Of course not. It's natural progression, new stuff comes out that's faster than old stuff. It's how things work.
We’ve got to stop and put on our thinking caps for a minute. Here’s what people are missing:
M1 was a huge jump over Intel in respective machines, many increases in the multi-X range. Then M2 comes along with 20% improvements. Then M3.
MEANING
When M2 to M3 is 20% better, it’s like a whole additional 6 or 8 core Intel chip from the 2019 16” MBP on top of 3 of those already.
The math may not be perfect, but a 20% jump from M2-M3 is a LOT of power from a couple years ago.
M1 was a huge jump over Intel in respective machines, many increases in the multi-X range. Then M2 comes along with 20% improvements. Then M3.
MEANING
When M2 to M3 is 20% better, it’s like a whole additional 6 or 8 core Intel chip from the 2019 16” MBP on top of 3 of those already.
The math may not be perfect, but a 20% jump from M2-M3 is a LOT of power from a couple years ago.
To be fair, when a person buys a product that is upgraded within 1-2 months, they haven't been "taken for a ride." Computers are in a constant state of upgrade and replacement. I believe if you have purchased an apple within 45 days of the upgrade, you can return it and get the latest.