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So you support criminals, especially child predators. Cool.

If you aren’t doing anything wrong nobody is going to wanna get into your phone.
Right, because I specifically said - I support criminals, and child predators..

I was pointing out that privacy seems to be a thing of the past; and the government goes to whatever lengths to get your data (look at the NSA for example).

If anything, we should take a page out of the middle east's book for punishment for child predators.
 
Can you defeat FaceID by making a weird, distorted facial expression?

I guess it doesn’t matter; they’ll toss you in jail and scan your face while you sleep.

"Your Face is Your Paswword" Thanks Apple.
“We demand cool new technology all the time, otherwise we complain incessantly, and fingerprints are sooo passé!” Thanks us.
 
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Set "Require Attention" in your FaceID settings, then when the thugs try to violate your Constitutional rights simply keep you eyes closed (both need to be closed). It's rather difficult to force someone to open their eyes without being so egregiously intrusive as to make FaceID impossible.
 
Right, because I specifically said - I support criminals, and child predators..

I was pointing out that privacy seems to be a thing of the past; and the government goes to whatever lengths to get your data (look at the NSA for example).

If anything, we should take a page out of the middle east's book for punishment for child predators.

you have no privacy if you're a damn criminal. the world's gotten soft because of ppl like you and that's why there's more crap happening in the world now than ever before.

if you're not committing any crime then there will be no reason to get into your phone. to even write a warrant for such thing takes a lot of grounds. they wanted into his phone to gather more evidence on this pos.
 
you have no privacy if you're a damn criminal. the world's gotten soft because of ppl like you and that's why there's more crap happening in the world now than ever before.

if you're not committing any crime then there will be no reason to get into your phone. to even write a warrant for such thing takes a lot of grounds. they wanted into his phone to gather more evidence on this pos.
If you are then a law abiding citizen then why have Face ID? or Touch ID? or passwords? nobodies gonna look at your phone right?
 
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And then you’ll be guilty of destroying evidence. And if you didn’t have anything to be guilty of before, you will after that.

This is not a bad idea for situations where your phone might get stolen, but such a move could also get you killed too.

I’d actually like to see the 5-click process also limit the passcode attempt to 1-3 tries before wiping the phone, and disable USB if it doesn’t already. It still might get you killed, but easier to fight the destroying evidence charge due to nervous fingers. It could result in some accidental erasures, but people presumably are using 5-clicks because it’s a dire situation that might warrant it.

The reason I'd advocate the fake password. If you are in circumstances where that info must be secure. Regardless of the consequences. Plus you are being forced to give that password. Once they try the fake password. The game is over. The device is irrevocably scrambled. Barring future technological development. Any other method and you can be prevented from taking taking that step.

Another option would be for it to perform that wipe. Then open to a protected environment (sort of a guest account like Filevault offers). Then, hopefully, they just think you don't store anything and wipe all your history regularly. While it has already destroyed the encryption key and is resetting the device in the background.

I won't bother delving into the hypotheticals of why one may find this necessary nor how likely anyone would find this necessary. Just suffice to say. One should have the option to implement this. If they decide the benefits outweigh the consequences.

I agree with this one and it should use a secure erase method that prevents recovery. But noy only a password, a secure wipe biometric combination of fingerprints.

If my first step is followed. Destroying the encryption key. Everything else is not necessary but a nice addition. The encryption key is everything. Without the key everything is a scrambled mess. Biometrics and passwords just unlock the encryption key. By themselves they are useless. What they unlock no longer exists.

As a precaution you want the reboot after. Just in case the key resides in the RAM. Then as long as it remains powered up. Some future security flaw found may be able to retrieve it from RAM.
 
you have no privacy if you're a damn criminal. the world's gotten soft because of ppl like you and that's why there's more crap happening in the world now than ever before.

if you're not committing any crime then there will be no reason to get into your phone. to even write a warrant for such thing takes a lot of grounds. they wanted into his phone to gather more evidence on this pos.

I hesitate to reply because I think to myself that you are being antagonistic or sillybut...

If you have nothing to hide then you won't mind if the authorities body cavity check you or loved ones, cause you have nothing to hide.

If you want to argue about that, would you mind if you were pulled out of line for the your flight? You wouldn't mind wrongfully missing your flight?
 
if you're not committing any crime then there will be no reason to get into your phone.

Tell that to the US Customs & Border Protection agents who force random people to unlock their phones (without a warrant) so they can search your phone's contents and/or save a copy of your device's contents when you're leaving or entering the United States (whether you're a citizen of the US or foreign).


It's a prevalent enough occurrence that 1Password even made a travel mode, so you can delete your passwords and restore them once through customs, so they won't receive a copy of all of your accounts/passwords if this happens to you.
 
you have no privacy if you're a damn criminal. the world's gotten soft because of ppl like you and that's why there's more crap happening in the world now than ever before.

if you're not committing any crime then there will be no reason to get into your phone. to even write a warrant for such thing takes a lot of grounds. they wanted into his phone to gather more evidence on this pos.
Yes, people like me that think your life and the things you look at and the phone calls you make belong to you - and a warrant is needed to investivage you is why there is more crime.

Thanks for getting the bottom of that.
 
I see cops or hear police, search warrant I am squeezing the side buttons and forcing passcode entry. Enjoy not getting anything from me
 
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Face ID is a convenience for the average people that is safe enough for household use. If you don't want cops to unlock your phone, then don't use Face ID. Face ID is not required for operating the phone. Besides, if you're not looking at the phone with your eyes clearly open, the phone is not going to unlock. You can press the power button 5 times before the cops come, but once they are there, that would be considered tampering with evidence.

Biometric ID is not a password. With a search warrant, the only thing you can keep to yourself is your thoughts. Your fingerprint, your face, your iris pattern, your tattoos, your DNA are all fair game for the police to take, it's not considered self-incrimination.

Encryption alone is not 100% secure, unless you can claim plausible deniability. If an adversary suspects that you are using encryption (and they will), they can use other means, such as completely breaking you psychologically, and under pressure you might provide the information that they need, or make a mistake. Investigators can legally apply such pressure.
 
I guess I should consider myself fortunate that law enforcement in my country is quite trusted and respected.

Yes. Consider that in some countries the illegal action committed by the phone's owner might simply be supporting the government's opposition, fighting for human rights, or wanting democracy.
 
I hesitate to reply because I think to myself that you are being antagonistic or sillybut...

If you have nothing to hide then you won't mind if the authorities body cavity check you or loved ones, cause you have nothing to hide.

If you want to argue about that, would you mind if you were pulled out of line for the your flight? You wouldn't mind wrongfully missing your flight?

they can check them if they have a warrant, which doesn't just appear out of no where. you need to swear to information on that warrant that has to be accurate.

so again, if you aren't doing anything wrong then you don't need to worry about anything. stop protecting criminals.
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If you are then a law abiding citizen then why have Face ID? or Touch ID? or passwords? nobodies gonna look at your phone right?

you are seriously comparing the two? liberals piss me off. illogical way of thinking and ruining this world.

i can assure you your state of mind would change if your child was involved in a case like this.
 
Not on my 5S.
5-0 can't catch me.
I have one too. I just wish Apple Pay would work on it for online and Apple Pay Cash. It's running iOS 12 nicely.
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Why do all the FaceID marketing images show people’s faces getting some kind of flashlight FX projected on them? Does FaceID shine a flash at you every time? That’d be annoying as hell. Especially at night. Actually: How do people unlock these things in the middle of the night when your room is dark? Passcode or nothing?
It actually does strobe a light on your face, you just can't consciously see it in the visible realm. I'm surprised people are not having seizures yet or linked them to face id.
Hold another camera up to the front of your X and you'll see it.
 
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