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First Geekbench Score Surfaces for MacBook Pro M1 Max With 2x Faster Multi-Core Performance Compared to M1

MauiPa said:
ummm, math? Even on Geekbench's site where they don't throw out outliers where people are not running the benchmark standalone, the M1 is 7400. If I double that, lets see 7400 * 2 = 14,800 not 11,542. am I missing something?
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The efficiency cores do contribute. The four efficiency cores on the original are collectively about as powerful as one performance core, so the original M1 has about 5 efficiency-core equivalents and the M1 Pro / Max have about 8.5, for an expected ballpark increase of about 70%, and the Geekbench posted shows a 56% increase in multi-core, so the napkin math isn't too far off.
 
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I'm going to wait until Apple sells a matching mini LED display so I can replace my 27" iMac and 16" MBP in one fell swoop...with a 14" MBP Max, lol. I'll probably wait until the M2 Max comes out. By then most of the apps I use will be migrated to Apple Silicon as well.

TSMC’s roadmap is for 3nm to begin production in the second half of 2022. So that looks like my time to buy a new Mac in autumn 2022. I’ll get a 14” MBP with M2 Max, 64GB or RAM, 4TB SSD, and probably the mid-tier GPU option for the Max unless by then it’s possible to run Windows games well on Apple Silicon. Performance and battery life should be good enough that I won’t have to buy another computer for 8 years, haha.
 
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Quite amazing for a laptop, but intel qould release soon new cpus, lets see how imac 27(30”) would compare them in 6 months
Where power compsumtion dont care so much
 
macduke said:
I'm going to wait until Apple sells a matching mini LED display so I can replace my 27" iMac and 16" MBP in one fell swoop...with a 14" MBP Max, lol. I'll probably wait until the M2 Max comes out. By then most of the apps I use will be migrated to Apple Silicon as well.

TSMC’s roadmap is for 3nm to begin production in the second half of 2022. So that looks like my time to buy a new Mac in autumn 2022. I’ll get a 14” MBP with M2 Max, 64GB or RAM, 4TB SSD, and probably the mid-tier GPU option for the Max unless by then it’s possible to run Windows games well on Apple Silicon. Performance and battery life should be good enough that I won’t have to buy another computer for 8 years, haha.
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There is no such thing as a 14" MBP M1 Max. According to Apple's website, the M1 Max is exclusive to the 16" MBP.
At least this year, maybe in the future...

At least in the Switzerland version of Apple's website.
 
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Squillace said:
There is no such thing as a 14" MBP M1 Max. According to Apple's website, the M1 Max is exclusive to the 16" MBP.
At least this year, maybe in the future...

At least in the Switzerland version of Apple's website.
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In the US it is possible. Here's what I'm getting:

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RedTheReader said:
That's fantastic, but what I'm really interested to see are GPU performance benchmarks. Can the 32-core Max really compete with a laptop RTX 3070 like some people were estimating/calculating months ago? And what about the other configurations we hadn't heard a peep of until now? How do they fare?
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I know teraflops don't accurately describe how powerful a GPU is,

But RTX 2080 Desktop was 10.07 TFLOPS, and the M1 Max 32-core is 10.4 TFLOPS

So yeah, I would guess it is as fast as RTX 3070 mobile, maybe even faster, but doesn't have any hardware Ray Tracing.
 
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On the one hand, the multi core score is impressive and more powerful than almost any Intel machine. On the other hand, for most tasks, the machine seems unimpressive relative to the MacBook Air M1, or even an iPad/iPhone (single core score is comparable to the iPhone 13x).

I was a MacBook Pro user before going with the M1 MacBook Air. Nothing about the CPU, besides the ability to run multiple monitors, is enticing me to upgrade (I am an office / excel type user).
 
macpot said:
I know teraflops don't accurately describe how powerful a GPU is,

But RTX 2080 Desktop was 10.07 TFLOPS, and the M1 Max 32-core is 10.4 TFLOPS

So yeah, I would guess it is as fast as RTX 3070 mobile, maybe even faster, but doesn't have any hardware Ray Tracing.
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For professional GPU performance UMA is the thing. Anyone who does GPU rendering prefers the massive performance increase to CPU rendering. The reason why CPU rendering is still around is because VRAM is relatively small compared to system memory. If you want more VRAM for rendering Nvidia has Quadro to sell you for $$$$. With UMA you can have 64GB available for GPU rendering which really is game changing. For HW ray tracing I'm sure it will come.
 
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Adelphos33 said:
On the one hand, the multi core score is impressive and more powerful than almost any Intel machine. On the other hand, for most tasks, the machine seems unimpressive relative to the MacBook Air M1, or even an iPad/iPhone (single core score is comparable to the iPhone 13x).

I was a MacBook Pro user before going with the M1 MacBook Air. Nothing about the CPU, besides the ability to run multiple monitors, is enticing me to upgrade (I am an office / excel type user).
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And that is the reality of the M1. The base level is really quite powerful. I'm also an office/excel type. I'm somewhat into computers, but the reality is that it is a "look and wonder" thing at this point. I just don't need any of this power for what I do (the vast majority of the time). I may switch out my 2018 Mini for an M1 (or maybe M2 or whatever they are selling next year), but honestly it will be for the power savings to a large extent. As I work from home, I'm paying to run my mini, which gets hot, and then paying for AC costs to cool my room. With the demand for the last Intel Minis being somewhat high on open market, I can sell my Mini and buy a new Mini for not that much money.
 
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ek9max said:
This is exciting!!! I was really hoping for a new Mac mini. But I'm still excited because I know these chips will trickle down eventually.
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I don't think you'll have to wait very long. I imagine the next Mac mini refresh will have both M1 Pro and M1 Max options available. Rumor was for first half of 2022? I recall talk of a Mac mini with a glass top.
 
Wow. My 3.6 GHz 10-Core Intel Core i9 iMac only scores 1235 on single and 6819 on multi-core, and it gets hot as hell when running at full capacity (seriously, I can almost use it as a space heater).
 
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is that a gold medal in the all around or just in the laptop individual? or neither?
 
Adelphos33 said:
On the one hand, the multi core score is impressive and more powerful than almost any Intel machine. On the other hand, for most tasks, the machine seems unimpressive relative to the MacBook Air M1, or even an iPad/iPhone (single core score is comparable to the iPhone 13x).

I was a MacBook Pro user before going with the M1 MacBook Air. Nothing about the CPU, besides the ability to run multiple monitors, is enticing me to upgrade (I am an office / excel type user).
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You say that like it's a bad thing. The M1 MBA and MBP are more than powerful enough for the vast majority of users. If you need more power (for whatever reason), you've got the M1 Pro and M1 Max.

My only complaint is it would be nice to get a 14" or 16" without all the additional power. A 14" MBA would be really nice.
 
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