M1 Macbook air owner i purchased 16 inch macbook pro m1 MAX i would think these geekbench scores would be higher then they are???
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First Geekbench Score Surfaces for MacBook Pro M1 Max With 2x Faster Multi-Core Performance Compared to M1
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I did some Octane for Lightwave3D tests in prep for these new M1 Max units. I’ll update once I get mine. (November 5th currently)
Here’s my current scores. Keep in mind Lightwave3D requires Rosetta 2. Although I’ve only seen CPU scores of it running even faster this way, than the previous i9 in native x86 mode!
GPU RENDERING
Octane PR11
M1 MacBookAir
Metal
112-seconds (1:52)
Octane 2020.2
TR24
RTX3090 (CUDA)
7-seconds
Here’s my current scores. Keep in mind Lightwave3D requires Rosetta 2. Although I’ve only seen CPU scores of it running even faster this way, than the previous i9 in native x86 mode!
GPU RENDERING
Octane PR11
M1 MacBookAir
Metal
112-seconds (1:52)
Octane 2020.2
TR24
RTX3090 (CUDA)
7-seconds
just leave this here. Apple is comparing the Pro 16 M1 Max 32 GPU cores to the RTX 3080.
Well, the stagnation of single-core perf is bad. Of course, that was to be expected, but all of this are glued together M1.
The sad thing is that last year Apple was the most performant single-core CPU on the planet by far.
Now, a year later they're 30% slower than the latest AMD/Intel who clocks in 2300 single-core Geekbench 5.
Granted, I'm comparing laptops to power-hungry high Ghz desktop computer, but the thing is, that the M1 single core is the highest single-core experience on the mac you can get, there's no faster single-core Macs. Desktop uses, will use the same M1 cores. We'll have to wait for the M2. I call this a stagnation, if not a regression if we compare to competitors.
For intel that's very good news.
For the record, single-core is what matters the most, because 100% of the software benefits from faster single-core perfs, whereas only a few benefit from multicore perf (and only in some dedicated subtasks)
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This means that most people with M1 won't benefit from these new macs. This means PC camp, is already crushing MAc in absolute perfs, and will soon equal it in the laptops.
Disappointing (though expeceted)
GPU perfs and Memoruy bandwith and proRes stuff is impressive thaough, but will only benefit to few people
The sad thing is that last year Apple was the most performant single-core CPU on the planet by far.
Now, a year later they're 30% slower than the latest AMD/Intel who clocks in 2300 single-core Geekbench 5.
Granted, I'm comparing laptops to power-hungry high Ghz desktop computer, but the thing is, that the M1 single core is the highest single-core experience on the mac you can get, there's no faster single-core Macs. Desktop uses, will use the same M1 cores. We'll have to wait for the M2. I call this a stagnation, if not a regression if we compare to competitors.
For intel that's very good news.
For the record, single-core is what matters the most, because 100% of the software benefits from faster single-core perfs, whereas only a few benefit from multicore perf (and only in some dedicated subtasks)
.
This means that most people with M1 won't benefit from these new macs. This means PC camp, is already crushing MAc in absolute perfs, and will soon equal it in the laptops.
Disappointing (though expeceted)
GPU perfs and Memoruy bandwith and proRes stuff is impressive thaough, but will only benefit to few people
Why? The M1 Pro and Max are using the same core design as the baseline M1. As such, single-core results should be very similar across all M1 devices. The main differences b/w the M1, Pro, and Max are total number of cores and GPU cores. In addition, the MBPs have active cooling, so that will allow the cores to run at a higher clock speed for a prolonged period of time, but won't really affect Geekbench results. I imagine the M2 will introduce a new core design, and we'll see a (hopefully substantial) improvement in single-core results (and subsequently in multi-core results).
If you're running a machine with an M1, you're not the target market for this upgrade. Wait until next year with the M2, and the inevitable M2 Pro and M2 Max that will follow. Coming from any of the Intel based Macs, this is a huge upgrade.
The M1 Pro/Max are using the same core design as the M1 - as such single core Geekbench results will be nearly identical across all machines. The difference is in multi-core usage. I imagine the M2, which will be released sometime next year, will show substantial improvements in single-core results (and thus subsequently in multi-core results).
For the vast majority of people, a baseline MBA is probably all the processing power you'll need.
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Forgot to also mention that the active cooling and better overall thermal design in the new MBPs will also make a difference as it will the M1 cores to stay at higher clock speeds to a lot longer (if not indefinitely while plugged in). Sustained usage really isn't reflected in Geekbench results.
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I am willing to bet that real life performance is going to be significantly different, with the MBP excelling at tasks that would otherwise bring the M1 MBA to its knees.
For example, editing 8k footage while away from a power outlet. The new MacBooks seem optimised for sustained workloads. I doubt a windows laptop can get very far without throttling due to heat or battery life concerns.
This will just go to further show just how embarrassingly behind Intel’s chips are.
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I can't find the M1 Max result on the Geekbench site. Does anyone have the link?
"Your search - Apple M1 Max - did not match any Geekbench 5 CPU results."
Edit: I found it: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10476727
"Your search - Apple M1 Max - did not match any Geekbench 5 CPU results."
Edit: I found it: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10476727
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Anandtech has a great overview of the new M1 Pro and Max showing how these SOC’s are a lot more than repackaged M1s with a few more cores.
im upgrading from a MBP m1... just the magsafe was enough for me to pull the trigger... 🤷♂️
lol, no, those are all incredibly overclocked. No AMD or Intel processor is doing 2300 single-core out of the box. The vanilla M1 consistently scores the same as a i9-11900
Interesting that Mac is already running "12.4" where we are only on 12.0.1 and the next update presumably only 12.1.
I am now very intrigued as to what they pull out of the hat for the eventual MacPro replacement silicon. They are getting some impressive numbers with laptop level cooling and portable chips. Just how nuts will the dedicated MacPro M chip be? (and how $$$$$$$$)
You mean the endless stream of jackass results that claim to be Mac Pro's, iMac Pro's, and even high-end Xiaomi Android phones?
Yeah, I think most executives (whether Apple, AMD, or Intel) don't really care or worry much about the idiot fringe on Geekbench who seem to think submitting clearly bogus results is the highest form of artistry...
If this is 2x the M1. What #x is it compared to the previous 16MBP (2019)? As on the Apple site it says most the apps when comparing 2019 MBP to new Max as only 2x. Is it that this geekbench metric isn't real world? Or ...?
1834 ST / 17370 MT. ( I.e. faster in both )
Intel Corporation Alder Lake Client Platform - Geekbench
Benchmark results for an Intel Corporation Alder Lake Client Platform with an Intel Core i9-12900K processor.
browser.geekbench.com
top of line mainstream desktop 16 cores and 24 threads .
M1 pro/max probably better than the mobile Gen 12 ( alder lake ) versions will be.
if Intel gets to TSMC N3 about same time Apple does with some mobile product ( at least the GPU part ) they should be closer than they are now . Intel isn’t going to be able to jump back in one quick leap . They need to consistently execute for 3-4 years to be back on really solid ground again.
Alder lake 12900K is at least 2000 stock. But the point is that you can get that perfs if you need to on intel whereas not on Mac, and last year you couldn't
In my opinion, the new models are impressive if your work involves those things that require lots of memory, CPU, and GPU power; perhaps video editing, processing large data sets, and large programming tasks. On the other hand, since the performance cores appear to be largely the same as the base model M1, you'll get just as good performance from the current M1 Macbook Air for web browsing, writing, watching movies, etc.., which is excellent. The new models have a better display, webcam, and speakers, so that might be worth the extra cost for some people. If you have average computing needs, then perhaps waiting on the next generation M2 Macbook Air would be a better idea since it will likely adopt a better webcam and maybe a similar bezel layout. It probably won't include a mini LED display though.
Thanks, and I guess we haven’t really seen mobile Alder Lake yet.
And yes, totally agree, Intel needs to demonstrate far more than 1 generation that they can deliver.
Maybe so. But Alder Lake isn't available next week. What IS available now and next week is Rocket Lake
Essentially the same single thread, and multi thread, but vastly worse energy usage.
This is Apple's MID-RANGE chip, just like the M1 was the low-end chip. It's not yet the serious high end chip...
Everything right now is still just lining up the pieces one move at a time. Last year was "get x86 emulation and macOS working". This year is "add a bunch of IO, support for a lot more DRAM, support for more GPU and NPU".
Next year will be "get all the details relevant to chiplets and NUMA working".
In one sense, yes, this is Apple catching up to Intel, insofar as Intel already have this functionality. In another sense, it's Apple every year catching up what took Intel 3 years or so the first time round. We are running out of runway in terms of areas where Apple can be considered to be behind...
That's pretty *slightly* higher than my middle of the road i9 (10900K) desktop. I don't feel so bad for not ordering the new M1 Max MBP now. (no way am I buying a notch)