Way to win an argument by switching to the extreme.
There are uses for multitasking, usually that means two apps, not 15.
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First Impressions From New iPhone XR Owners
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There are uses for multitasking, usually that means two apps, not 15.
So what’s innovative about the hauwei phones that’s hasn’t been done already?
I've always kept my iPhone in my back pocket and always take it out when sitting down. This isn't rocket science. Any phone is going to feel uncomfortable in any jeans pocket while sitting down, aside from the risk of bending it or cracking the screen.
Pushing the limits of a front-pocket phone, no doubt. Even compared to the X with a slim case, the XR with no case will fit in a rear pocket but definitely will require removal when sitting down...
I don't understand the size of this phone one bit! Why not have regular and 'max' versions as with the XS and previous iPhones. Personally I'd prefer a slightly smaller phone (ie the SE size which until they ditched it was INCREDIBLY popular). But to have 'budget' phone almost as big as the 'Max' seems ridiculous. They are going to have to release a smaller phone at some point or they WILL lose market share. There is a significant market for both a cheaper phone but also a smaller one. At the moment consumers simply aren't been given a choice as all Apple's new phones are big.
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Seriously? And you don't worry about i) sitting on it accidentally an damaging it ii) being pickpocketed?
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Seriously? And you don't worry about i) sitting on it accidentally an damaging it ii) being pickpocketed?
Really wants to see the front of it with a cover on.
Those borders looks kinda chubby
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Those borders looks kinda chubby
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Again, tiny screen. Because Apple is so memory management savvy, 4gb of RAM means that I have yet to run into an instance where I couldn't go back to where I was. I've forgotten about an Untappd post and come back to it the morning after, and my half-written review is still there waiting patiently to be completed.
Being able to swipe between apps feels pretty genuine to me.
As for playing a game while watching a video or listening to music, I still don't comprehend why you kids do that. If I'm watching a movie or listening to music or playing a game, that's all I'm doing. I don't split my attention and then wipe the raid. That applies from desktop computing to tableting to phones.
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https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+XR+Teardown/114123#s218630
I finally found the guy who complaints about the 1mm! Went to Apple Store saw the new iPhone didn't bought one and still find ways to complain how thick it is. SMH!
I'll throw out my impressions as someone coming from an 8:
- I think the screen is better than "fine"....it's *very* good
- Needless to say, it's very premium feeling, as is basically everything from Apple
- While it's much weightier than my 8, it's a non-issue for me
- Gestures become second nature quickly, and I love it
- I didn't use 3D Touch often, so I didn't really miss it. Space Bar-Trackpad function is good enough.
- Very snappy
- Camera takes fantastic pics
- Battery life has been excellent
- The thicker bezels don't bother me, at all (personal preference, I know)
I tried it out in the store for a few minutes before buying, and I thought I would get used to its extra width/height with no complaints....I haven't. I'm a tall guy with fairly big hands, but one-handed use just isn't as comfortable as I'd personally like. I know it's only been three days, but I'll likely be swapping it out for a XS.
If size is a concern coming from a 6/6S/7/8/SE, I would highly recommend going to the store and trying it out for a bit before ordering, sight-unseen. The width is much closer to the Max/Plus sizes than the regular sizes.
That said, if you're on the fence because you're worried about the screen, don't be; it's really good. You're also going to get great battery life and, if in need of extra storage, can get an extra 64 gigs for fifty bucks.
I should also mention that while I got the black phone, the colors look fantastic in person; even the yellow looks good!
After using it since Friday, size aside (for me), it's an excellent phone and absolutely worthy of your consideration. The XS/XS Max phones are great, but you won't feel like you "cheaped out" by getting the XR.
- I think the screen is better than "fine"....it's *very* good
- Needless to say, it's very premium feeling, as is basically everything from Apple
- While it's much weightier than my 8, it's a non-issue for me
- Gestures become second nature quickly, and I love it
- I didn't use 3D Touch often, so I didn't really miss it. Space Bar-Trackpad function is good enough.
- Very snappy
- Camera takes fantastic pics
- Battery life has been excellent
- The thicker bezels don't bother me, at all (personal preference, I know)
I tried it out in the store for a few minutes before buying, and I thought I would get used to its extra width/height with no complaints....I haven't. I'm a tall guy with fairly big hands, but one-handed use just isn't as comfortable as I'd personally like. I know it's only been three days, but I'll likely be swapping it out for a XS.
If size is a concern coming from a 6/6S/7/8/SE, I would highly recommend going to the store and trying it out for a bit before ordering, sight-unseen. The width is much closer to the Max/Plus sizes than the regular sizes.
That said, if you're on the fence because you're worried about the screen, don't be; it's really good. You're also going to get great battery life and, if in need of extra storage, can get an extra 64 gigs for fifty bucks.
I should also mention that while I got the black phone, the colors look fantastic in person; even the yellow looks good!
After using it since Friday, size aside (for me), it's an excellent phone and absolutely worthy of your consideration. The XS/XS Max phones are great, but you won't feel like you "cheaped out" by getting the XR.
But the android camp will say “specs don’t matter in real world use”. Just like how they used to brag about their 8 core chips beating apples older A8 and A7 in certain benchmarks. Now the tables are flipped they have a totally different attitude. Lol.
Your use case and mine differ, and I am okay with that.
Sure, I can swipe between apps, but why should I on a phone that supports two running at the same time?
I don't see how adding the option hurts anyone, or would impact anyone that doesn't use / like the feature. I rarely use AC in my cars despite hot and humid summers. That said, I would never suggest manufacturers remove it as an option for everyone else.
So, I’m a little late to this party, as I wasn’t home to receive the iPhone on Friday. A tragedy, yes.
Anyway, just a couple of thoughts from someone coming from the iPhone 6. The size jump was not as significant as I was expecting. Maybe because it’s not the XS Max? Years ago, I was in the camp that didn’t understand the attraction of phablets, but larger keyboards and bigger screens are something I’ve come to appreciate. Also, the XR is no phablet by any stretch.
The LCD screen is good - definitely an improvement on my 6. Colour is richer and contrast is higher. It’s still an LCD screen, so watching a dark film/show in bed with the lights off still results in a lot of washed out tones. Blacks are greys, etc. But, with any external light source whatsoever, this becomes virtually unnoticeable. Still, something to consider if that’s important to you.
I can’t speak for the camera, as I don’t take loads of photos. It’s fine? If I’m perfectly honest, in low light situations, the quality is not terribly different to what I could achieve with my 6. Others out there will surely be able to refute this, but there’s only so much that can be done with the relatively small lens sizes in these phones. As a side note, I find the ‘Clips’ app to be highly unintuitive and will likely never use it.
The biggest advantage for me coming from a 6 - that I was generally happy with, but was really showing its age - is the amount of available RAM. When the 6 was released, it still had 1GB, the same as the 5s (and the 5, I believe?). I always felt they should have made the leap to 2GB with the 6 instead of waiting for the 6s, because that was the phone’s biggest stumbling block. Apps began loading really slowly and you couldn’t go back to, say, a website and expect it to appear exactly as you left it seconds before. You’d have to wait for it to reload and sometimes even scroll back to the place you were previously. With the 3GBs of the XR, basic UI navigation is just so much better. Of course, this is probably nothing new to those who’ve been using 8/X models, but it’s a significant step up for me.
Anyway, that’s about it. At the end of the day, it’s an iPhone. Aside from a learning curve due to the lack of the home button, the experience is what you’d expect.
Anyway, just a couple of thoughts from someone coming from the iPhone 6. The size jump was not as significant as I was expecting. Maybe because it’s not the XS Max? Years ago, I was in the camp that didn’t understand the attraction of phablets, but larger keyboards and bigger screens are something I’ve come to appreciate. Also, the XR is no phablet by any stretch.
The LCD screen is good - definitely an improvement on my 6. Colour is richer and contrast is higher. It’s still an LCD screen, so watching a dark film/show in bed with the lights off still results in a lot of washed out tones. Blacks are greys, etc. But, with any external light source whatsoever, this becomes virtually unnoticeable. Still, something to consider if that’s important to you.
I can’t speak for the camera, as I don’t take loads of photos. It’s fine? If I’m perfectly honest, in low light situations, the quality is not terribly different to what I could achieve with my 6. Others out there will surely be able to refute this, but there’s only so much that can be done with the relatively small lens sizes in these phones. As a side note, I find the ‘Clips’ app to be highly unintuitive and will likely never use it.
The biggest advantage for me coming from a 6 - that I was generally happy with, but was really showing its age - is the amount of available RAM. When the 6 was released, it still had 1GB, the same as the 5s (and the 5, I believe?). I always felt they should have made the leap to 2GB with the 6 instead of waiting for the 6s, because that was the phone’s biggest stumbling block. Apps began loading really slowly and you couldn’t go back to, say, a website and expect it to appear exactly as you left it seconds before. You’d have to wait for it to reload and sometimes even scroll back to the place you were previously. With the 3GBs of the XR, basic UI navigation is just so much better. Of course, this is probably nothing new to those who’ve been using 8/X models, but it’s a significant step up for me.
Anyway, that’s about it. At the end of the day, it’s an iPhone. Aside from a learning curve due to the lack of the home button, the experience is what you’d expect.
You think the extra 13mm in the XR over the iPhone 6 in height stops the front pocket use... Will need to try the Apple store I guess and see if they will let me put it in my pocket and sit down...
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Great, that nice to hear since I am no rocket scientist.
I've always kept my iPhone in my front jeans pocket and keep it in there when sitting down.
Not the case with my current 6 which is in a case and is not uncomfortable while sitting, hence my question about the XR.
Its a shame that Apple don't do a current iPhone that fits in your pocket and doesn't cost more than a laptop.
Here are a few...
Samsung Galaxy On6 ($200)
Samsung Galaxy J7 ($250)
Samsung Galaxy A7 ($349)
Huawei Honor Note 10 ($400)
Xiaomi Black Shark Helo ($400)
Samsung Galaxy A9 Star ($420)
Motorola Moto Z3 ($480)
Yes... it's certainly an option. What happens when they retire bezelled phones completely. 3 year old XS is not going to be priced at 449. Perhaps Xr might be... but that is a plus sized phone
They'll have the iPhone 8 for at least another year after this and by then, you'll likely see a different form factor of the Xr. If you don't, it's because not enough people want it.
Apple builds what massive amounts of people will buy.
While you're not wrong.
Apple's leadership is so out of touch with reality that they likely believe that since the X is 999, that "Budget" is $750.
forgetting that just 2 years ago, that was flagship price.
I think the XR will be a big seller, (possibly a supercycle), but it's not necessarily price related, but the first major revision to the iPhone lineup since the 6 that is in the < $1000 price point. A lot of people will be willing to spend that type of money, since they'd have been willing to spend it anyways
the only time that the XR really starts to look/feel "cheap" is compared to non iPhones at the same price p oint that offer a lot more modern hardware. such as OLED displays at higher resolutions, memory and smaller bezels around the sides.
the XR is just a weird device. it seems like the next step from the iPhone 8, and not necessary a "cheaper X". in addition the size is ... middling and not necessary what people overall were looking for in a "budget" device.
I think when rumour of a budget device was announced we were all hoping for a slightly larger SE with all front display, not a 6.1" fairly lower rez LCD that's between the Xs and Xs+
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Here's the problem.
I think apple's Silicon is absolutely bar none the best mobile silicon in the business.
but in everyday usage case, that silicon is mostly unused. there are a few places where the raw horsepower is helping right now, like larger game titles or programs.
but day to day tasks and activities have hit a point of diminishing returns where the pure raw horsepower has less of an impact in our lives than other externalities of the devices, such as screen quality, in hand feel, etc.
when skype (yuck), or slack, or whatever day to day activities I use (i don't game on my phone as an example) all load in the exact same time regardless of the chipset, than that extra power is not as much a selling point anymore than it used to be.
I do not ever want Apple to stop the amazing silicon work they are doing. but taughting a benchmark score these days has less meaning to the average user.
4-5 years ago, when the difference in load times was seconds, it was a massive deal. today? ehhhhh
I’m have a iPhone 7 Plus so it would be a downgrade for me with only 326 ppi compared to my 401 ppi.
AMOLED and OLED are different. They are similar but different
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like what?
I understand your point, but they can’t have it both ways. On one side you say your chip benchmarks faster, so it’s better. On the other side of the argument (now that Apple chips have far surpassed any other mobile chipsets) it’s “specs and benchmarks don’t matter”. Which is true to a point. It depends on the chip, RAM, GPU, Ram speed and obviously the OS. My point was now the tables are turned, their argument is the former from what I said above.
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Mostly gimmicky stuff that most people don’t care about anyways.
we're also tech nuts on a tech site and tend to read far more into these things than the average consumer.
to the average user, they care about how the phone feels. benchmarks are ultimately irrelevant when the point of diminishing returns have been reached by just about everyone.
benchmarks only matter as far as pointing out that the device reaches that point. users don't generally look at them. And yes, they didn't generally look at them even if the tables were turned.
they care about how much they hve to wait to do something. if they don't have to wait for facebook to load on the latest galaxy, than having 10x more power on the iphone is going to be an irrelevant metric.
This is where Apple does a better job usually. instead of really toughting benchmarks they tend to find usability that sells that performance. One example is slow motion capture. Apple's CPU performance allows for much better range on the slow motion capture from the camera.
However this also only goes so far as you have to want that feature for it to matter.
Another example would be face unlock. MOST users don't care if it's done via an IR Dot matrix mapping of your face or using the regular camera. as long as it unlocks fast.