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we're also tech nuts on a tech site and tend to read far more into these things than the average consumer.

to the average user, they care about how the phone feels. benchmarks are ultimately irrelevant when the point of diminishing returns have been reached by just about everyone.

benchmarks only matter as far as pointing out that the device reaches that point. users don't generally look at them. And yes, they didn't generally look at them even if the tables were turned.

they care about how much they hve to wait to do something. if they don't have to wait for facebook to load on the latest galaxy, than having 10x more power on the iphone is going to be an irrelevant metric.

This is where Apple does a better job usually. instead of really toughting benchmarks they tend to find usability that sells that performance. One example is slow motion capture. Apple's CPU performance allows for much better range on the slow motion capture from the camera.

However this also only goes so far as you have to want that feature for it to matter.

Another example would be face unlock. MOST users don't care if it's done via an IR Dot matrix mapping of your face or using the regular camera. as long as it unlocks fast.
Good points. Also the real time HDR and bokeh. That’s the power of A12. I wish there were apps that could take full advantage of this raw power. Coming from an iPhone 7 Plus, I notice a small speed increase. That’s how awesome apples chips really are
 
While you're not wrong.

Apple's leadership is so out of touch with reality that they likely believe that since the X is 999, that "Budget" is $750.

forgetting that just 2 years ago, that was flagship price.
Apple didn’t get to $1T by being out of touch. Nobody is saying the xr is a “budget” phone except for you.

I think the XR will be a big seller, (possibly a supercycle), but it's not necessarily price related, but the first major revision to the iPhone lineup since the 6 that is in the < $1000 price point. A lot of people will be willing to spend that type of money, since they'd have been willing to spend it anyways


the only time that the XR really starts to look/feel "cheap" is compared to non iPhones at the same price p oint that offer a lot more modern hardware. such as OLED displays at higher resolutions, memory and smaller bezels around the sides.

the XR is just a weird device. it seems like the next step from the iPhone 8, and not necessary a "cheaper X". in addition the size is ... middling and not necessary what people overall were looking for in a "budget" device.

I think when rumour of a budget device was announced we were all hoping for a slightly larger SE with all front display, not a 6.1" fairly lower rez LCD that's between the Xs and Xs+K
Compared to the Xs the screen isn’t as good. Meanwhile the phone costs less than the top tier and one gets less for it’s a mid-tier phone, not a “budget” phone. Budget phones are now the iPhone 7.
 
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I don't understand the size of this phone one bit! Why not have regular and 'max' versions as with the XS and previous iPhones. Personally I'd prefer a slightly smaller phone (ie the SE size which until they ditched it was INCREDIBLY popular). But to have 'budget' phone almost as big as the 'Max' seems ridiculous. They are going to have to release a smaller phone at some point or they WILL lose market share. There is a significant market for both a cheaper phone but also a smaller one. At the moment consumers simply aren't been given a choice as all Apple's new phones are big.
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Seriously? And you don't worry about i) sitting on it accidentally an damaging it ii) being pickpocketed?
There’s a reason why Apple and the rest of the industry are making bigger phones. They sell more. They make what people want. So if they’re not making 4 inch phones, it’s because they weren’t selling.
 
I’m have a iPhone 7 Plus so it would be a downgrade for me with only 326 ppi compared to my 401 ppi.

IS it? is it a downgrade? I know the numbers are higher for the 7, but having looked at both screens I'm of a view the Xr has a better display, but I cannot explain why - I'd like others to chirp in on this point if you can?
 
IS it? is it a downgrade? I know the numbers are higher for the 7, but having looked at both screens I'm of a view the Xr has a better display, but I cannot explain why - I'd like others to chirp in on this point if you can?
The XR screen is bigger, but removes features compared to the Plus. It's got a lower resolution, lower viewing angles and removes 3D Touch. Technically the Plus' screen is better, but if you prefer notches over bezels, the XR is going to be the best for you.
 
This screen is way worse than the X, and that's expected. Stop pretending that it's just as good.
As far as I can see, the main difference between these two screens is that one is deemed big enough by Apple standards to spell out the words “Friday and October” whereas the other must settle with “Fri, Oct”.
 
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