The Core M can go pretty fast.
But only for about two or three seconds before thermal throttling kicks in.
So it might use it. Occasionally. But there's a reason everyone was concerned that this would be the processor for this machine. It stinks.
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The Core M can go pretty fast.
But only for about two or three seconds before thermal throttling kicks in.
So it might use it. Occasionally. But there's a reason everyone was concerned that this would be the processor for this machine. It stinks.
how big could the screen be with a smaller bezel?
but personally i dont like the keyboard so close to the edge. it feels like its missing something. i know its probably not much thinner than the edge of the desktop keyboard but...
I guess Apple is learning nothing from their competition.
Microsoft's 8" Win8.1 tablets.... only one port for charging and USB. And that was the thing EVERY user complained about.
Want to install something from a USB CD ROM? Not if you are running out of juice and need to charge. Want to keep a USB thumb drive plugged in? Not anymore. Sure, you can buy the port splitter, but the point of a thin & light notebook like that is NOT carrying a big bag full of junk to support it.
One of the worst Apple design decision to date.
Not to mention that I love the magsafe cord. The whole reason I started buying MBA. I have never had a laptop last as long as my MBA, solely because of the magsafe cord. Best Apple invention ever. And now it is gone.
I don't believe I've ever heard of a CPU having diminishing performance vs higher amounts of RAM.
The idea that people have to have a keyboard with no travel in their hands to know that travel is a pretty essential element of typing on a keyboard is hilarious, even for this site.
Some people live in ludicrous levels of denial.
Some people live in ludicrous levels of denial.
I very much doubt there will be more than another speed bump to the current MBA. This new machine is more Air than the Air*. The new MacBook is in a MacBook Air. It is the first MacBook Air to have the 'Air' dropped from its name. The current MBA is being kept around to fill a price point (and to keep us port-lovers happy a bit longer) in the same way that the iPhone 5S is still being sold to fill a price point.
Maybe 'MacBook Helium' is more appropriate?
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Yes, but the new Macbook is less Macbook than the Macbook Air. I think it looks like a really nice laptop if you want something ultra portable, don't need ports or CPU performance, and of course you get a retina screen.. I'm also curious about that keyboard, I really want to try one out to see what it's like to type on.
If they redesign the Air and add retina, it will be more than this one since it is has higher specs.
You really should quit trying, man. They are not going to hear you.
I get you though, the issue is not whether this stripped-down machine is for you.
The issue is that Apple is in the habit of stripping things down everywhere, and leaving (relatively) fringe users like us out with NOTHING to replace our aging equipment.
For now, there's the Retina MBPs (even those are not for me; I drew the line at the cMBPs).
But I fully expect this machine to become the prototype Apple laptop. I believe the other models will swiftly follow suit.
You'll need a dongle for everything (at your cost, where it was built-in before), and TB will be relegated to the desktops.
I've been looking at the (Japan-only) VAIO Pro 11.6", which uses an i7-4510U with 8GB RAM and has an 11.5 hour battery but only uses Intel 4400 graphics. Apparently this is Core M-5Y70 and 9 hours of battery with Intel 5300 graphics. Do these seem like comparable systems now? Should I just wait for a new upgrade on the VAIO side?
Eh, you can't really call this the "entry level" when it's price above the Air and entry level Pro Retina.
the people in the market for this type of computer don't need any ports other than to charge.
the only thing i'm miffed about is the loss of magsafe.
here come the flying macbooks.
You armchair sys admins are just the best.
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Uhh, as far as I know, there is no 10gigabit Wi-Fi networks available... Until Wi-Fi can get to the speeds of a high end wired network, it can't be considered a replacement because it's not as good.
You're getting lost in your own argument here.
You run 10GigE to ultra-portable laptops at your work network? Bull-poopy.
Try to load Solidworks without an optical drive. Not available. Of course, it isn't available for OS X either....
And not all of us have broadband connections. My 3.0 Mbps DSL line (downwind on a good day) makes a 200 GB download painful.
That being said, I am more than happy to rely on an external USB DVD drive, since I only need to use it every few months, and thus don't have to cart it around the rest of the time.
If. That's the key word here.
I'm saying if they do, it'll be the end of Macs. A lot of people here tend to make the argument "the average person doesn't need..." while disregarding the fact that the average person isn't the Macs target demographic. Your average person doesn't spend $1300+ on a laptop, probably not even $999. But there are obviously people who do, and they're the ones who like having features they find useful. People who don't need these features will likely end up buying an iPad.
It's one of those be careful what you wish for things. I've seen a fair share claim that Apple never has, nor ever should target niches because there's more money to be made from the average person, while forgetting that Macs are built for a sizable, but still niche audience.
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This is a very unappealing product to me.
What if you're backing up the computer and then battery is about to die? You have to stop back-up to charge the computer.
What happens when the battery stops working (which will eventually happen)? With an ordinary MacBook Pro or Air you can continue working with AC power even if the battery no longer works, while you back up your data before sending it to have the battery changed.
Also, this is the only Apple product save Apple TV and Airport Extreme that has no headphone port. That seems to be an oversight.
EDIT: Sorry I did not look at the tech specs page to see that it does have a headphone port. In the presentation I recalled them showing Bluetooth headphones and thought that was an indication of it not having a headphone jack. I knew the mentioned adapters but didn't realize that it allows for power pass through, which it does (although it's $79 for the adapter, which is pretty steep for the ability to back-up to a drive while charging).
What if you're backing up the computer and then battery is about to die? You have to stop back-up to charge the computer.
What happens when the battery stops working (which will eventually happen)? With an ordinary MacBook Pro or Air you can continue working with AC power even if the battery no longer works, while you back up your data before sending it to have the battery changed.
Also, this is the only Apple product save Apple TV and Airport Extreme that has no headphone port. That seems to be an oversight.
EDIT: Sorry I did not look at the tech specs page to see that it does have a headphone port. In the presentation I recalled them showing Bluetooth headphones and thought that was an indication of it not having a headphone jack. I knew the mentioned adapters but didn't realize that it allows for power pass through, which it does (although it's $79 for the adapter, which is pretty steep for the ability to back-up to a drive while charging).
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All I wanted was a retina version of a MBA, preferably the size of the 11".
The 12" is neither here nor there. I want Magsafe and I want a regular USB port. Not some do-it-all dongle that's going to cost 100x the cost of a connector on-board.
Greedy bastards.
The 12" is neither here nor there. I want Magsafe and I want a regular USB port. Not some do-it-all dongle that's going to cost 100x the cost of a connector on-board.
Greedy bastards.
Can't agree more. And just to add: I would have hoped it to stay more or less in 11" Air pricerange. (I know when adding the extra storage and memory to a 11" the difference is not big but for the bit of extra memory/storage the upcharge is still huge!)