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They'd be better off calling it the iPad book.
What is this fascination apple have for taking out all functionality to make it as thin as possible, then you have to carry a sack full of accessories?
If I want something like this i'll buy an iPad in the meantime I'll stick to my MacBook pro, although even they seem to be going the same way, maybe for us professional users windows may be the way to go in the future.

Yeah, that's the catch here that the "thin crowd at all costs" just don't get. When the device ceases to be as useful as it could or should be then the thinness just gets in the way or plain sucks.

The iPad Air 2 suffers from several nagging issues and they are all related to the paper like thin chassis. As if the Air 1 wasn't thin enough they had to shave another mm off of it.

Please. :rolleyes:
 
Went to a jr college to a cal state and everyone uses retina macbook pro. Idk what your point is, if the Macbook isn't suitable for the avg college student, they'll go for MBA or MBP. Those aren't going anywhere..

I call bs. Maybe post grad, but vast majority seen around uc campus near me is cmbp and mba.
 
I think our hobbies quite similar, but I use mostly iMovie and Garageband on Mac, rather than something on iPad. could you elaborate on your apps and workflow in iOS?

Ableton Live is my main DAW for desktop & laptop. My main recording app for iPad is Auria. (I like Garageband for iPad but haven't used it much.) I use Auria a lot for tracking vocals and mixing. I find it's a really nice marriage with Ableton. Auria has excellent FabFilter mixing and mastering plugins available to buy in their store. They're the same FabFilter plugins you can buy for your desktop or laptop, only 10x less. A new version of Auria with midi support is coming this spring.

Touchable is a great controller for Ableton Live. Loopy HD is great for getting song ideas out quickly. Alchemy Mobile is an awesome iPad synth, but it's no longer available for sale because Apple just acquired the company. Samplr is an awesome sampler. I like Native Instruments iMaschine & Propellerhead's Figure for beats and bass. Singaling and Harmony Voice are good for background vocals. Audiobus is great for working with different audio apps within the iPad. AudioShare & AudioCopy are great for moving audio around from app to app or back to your computer.

My main photography apps on the computer are Photoshop & Camera Raw. On the iPad, I love Stackables, VSCO, Lightroom, Mextures, Rookie, etc..

There's really a wealth of excellent photography and music-making apps available for the iOS, and lots of cool apps for getting web and graphic design ideas started.

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Basically everything people have been complaining about in this thread but with more lolz.
 
Yes, it is thicker than the straight edge. But that tapered part is needed so you can pick up the computer easily when it sits on a desk.

There has been speculation whether it would have been possible to have two USB-C ports with both accepting a charger (if that is not possible, things would have to be marked and it would have a recipe for trouble).

That makes sense. Maybe if all they needed was another millimeter to fit USB-C and headphones on the right, then the taper could have gone down another millimeter first. But with the battery charging, I wouldn't be surprised if there'd be difficulty routing cabling from both sides and having circuitry that could take power from either/or/both. I'd personally be happy with left only charging, but I bet Apple wouldn't accept that kind of usability vagueness. All the more reason to have come out with MagSafe 3 :)
 
So much arguing but so little common sense.

The average and majority user of this kind of laptop is someone who wants to browse the web and write on Word/Pages. They do not need ports. Why do they need ports!? They won't connect it to a monitor. They aren't photographers. They don't care about 'MagSafe'.

Most people buying laptops, or laptops like this, are using them for web and Word. I'm sorry to say but if you're wanting more, you're not Apple's target audience!!!

There's a MBP for people like you.
 
So much arguing but so little common sense.

The average and majority user of this kind of laptop is someone who wants to browse the web and write on Word/Pages. They do not need ports. Why do they need ports!? They won't connect it to a monitor. They aren't photographers. They don't care a out 'MagSafe'.

Most people buying laptops, or laptops like this, are using them for web and Word. I'm sorry to say but if you want more, you're not Apple's target audience!!!

There's a MBP for people like you.

so basically the "pro" in mbp means you need ports?

the description at the end of your posts makes chromebook a more economical alternative although a legal pad and a nice calculator solves a lot of their issues as well.
 
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So much arguing but so little common sense.

The average and majority user of this kind of laptop is someone who wants to browse the web and write on Word/Pages. They do not need ports. Why do they need ports!? They won't connect it to a monitor. They aren't photographers. They don't care about 'MagSafe'.

Most people buying laptops, or laptops like this, are using them for web and Word. I'm sorry to say but if you're wanting more, you're not Apple's target audience!!!

There's a MBP for people like you.

Wow... After almost a decade of MagSafe being one of the things that makes MacBooks superior, suddenly it's irrelevant!

And why do people need ports? Well let's see, there are USB sticks, mice (eg. not everyone likes the Magic mouse), Printers, phones...

Not Apple's audience? So those decades of Macs being the preferred platform for media artists means jack now?

PS "most people" don't spend $1300 on a laptop. If they did, Apple would control far more of the market share than they actually do.
 
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Probably because of the 11" MBA's screen, which according to many is "a pixelated blurry mess".

That's rather harsh. Certainly the lower res is noticeable, but it's easily useable.

Half a decade ago it would have been considered completely normal for a Mac of that size, given their traditionally low pixel densities.

But, yes, most of us MBA owners really wanted the machine we have, with a somewhat larger retina screen.

Hence our frustration at being presented with the Macbook.
 
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Probably because of the 11" MBA's screen, which according to many is "a pixelated blurry mess".

wouldn't go THAT far,

but the MBA screen has not kept up with the competition in the Ultra book market.

Low Resolution and fairly low quality. Apple is still using a 1440x900 (13") and 1280x768 (11") TN based panel for the MBA's.

these are noticably subquality to what the competition is putting in theirs. Not expecting 'Retina' quality in the Air, but it would have been nice to at least get that upgraded to a IPS panel at the least. And give a 1080p (or similar). it doesn't have to be retina, but it hasn't kept up at all with the competition in either quality of display or resolution.

The colours are "off" in comparison to a decent panel and their is wash-out when changing viewing angles.
 
The 11" MBA is a wonderful and capable machine in a terrific form factor that is handicapped by a substandard (I am being kind) display. It was ok five years ago. The rest of the world has moved on. Apple has decided to move a couple of generations ahead in a single skip, which leaves this particular niche (full featured and full power in a subnote size) very poorly represented in the Mac line for a year or two.

I am sure that the capabilities of the rMB will expand, just as the capabilities of the original Air line and the original iPad did, but it will take a couple of years and product generations.
 
That's rather harsh. Certainly the lower res is noticeable, but it's easily useable.

Half a decade ago it would have been considered completely normal for a Mac of that size, given their traditionally low pixel densities.

But, yes, most of us MBA owners really wanted the machine we have, with a somewhat larger retina screen.

Hence our frustration at being presented with the Macbook.

wouldn't go THAT far,

but the MBA screen has not kept up with the competition in the Ultra book market.

Low Resolution and fairly low quality. Apple is still using a 1440x900 (13") and 1280x768 (11") TN based panel for the MBA's.

these are noticably subquality to what the competition is putting in theirs. Not expecting 'Retina' quality in the Air, but it would have been nice to at least get that upgraded to a IPS panel at the least. And give a 1080p (or similar). it doesn't have to be retina, but it hasn't kept up at all with the competition in either quality of display or resolution.

The colours are "off" in comparison to a decent panel and their is wash-out when changing viewing angles.
Please understand that I don't think that the 11" MBA screen is a pixelated blurry mess, but that is what many others say about it. And if they are to be believed, it is the reason why they refuse to buy any of the current MBA models.

I think that my 2014 11" MBA is just fine the way it is. Yes, it has a lower resolution than my Acer Aspire Switch 11, and it would've been helpful for Apple to bump up the resolution (even if it wasn't to retina level), but the emotionally charged hyperbole surrounding the MBA screen is not helpful.
 
There's plenty of 15" Windows laptops being churned out at 1366x768. At least an 11" screen wont make the pixels look huge.
 
Please understand that I don't think that the 11" MBA screen is a pixelated blurry mess, but that is what many others say about it. And if they are to be believed, it is the reason why they refuse to buy any of the current MBA models.

I think that my 2014 11" MBA is just fine the way it is. Yes, it has a lower resolution than my Acer Aspire Switch 11, and it would've been helpful for Apple to bump up the resolution (even if it wasn't to retina level), but the emotionally charged hyperbole surrounding the MBA screen is not helpful.

yeah, it's important to remove the emotional ties to something. Emotion can point you in the direction that there's something wrong, but if you can't quantify it, then its just complaining

As a MBA user, I was fine with the display when I bought it in 2011. That was the current tech at the time. and comparatively nobody else had a laptop that was so small, light and thin, but still useful due to good power (ivy bridge i5's still do really well decently in power for everyday use).

However, it's now 2015, and barely anybody else is charging $1000+ for an ultrabook with a display that uses TN panels or lower than 1080p resolutions anymore.

But Apple seems to refuse to update the MacBook Air's display. it (at least in my opinion) is still one of the best ultrabooks on the market for everything else, EXCEPT The fact they are still basically using 3 year old display panels.

My 2011 display is broken, I still want a traditional laptop. I have a Surface Pro 2 that I love, but it still isn't quite the same as having a dedicated laptop with keyboard and trackpad. I won't buy another Air until they catch up the display. And I refuse to buy the new MacBook with only 1 port (and that it costs $1549 here)
 
There's plenty of 15" Windows laptops being churned out at 1366x768. At least an 11" screen wont make the pixels look huge.

you cannot compare the ultrabook / high end laptops to the budget 15" market.

the 15" market has been the "budget oriented" market for probably close to a decade. they're intended to get you into a laptop, for cheap, with cheap parts and components.

Now moving into the "Ultrabook" market. There are very few, if any that are still using TN panels running less than 1080p.

and non of them are charging $1,000+ for anything lower
 
But, yes, most of us MBA owners really wanted the machine we have, with a somewhat larger retina screen.

Hence our frustration at being presented with the Macbook.
Fully agree. I have a mid-2013 MBA 11". I'm mostly still happy with it as my ultraportable, but with an upgraded display it would be an outright fantastic little machine. Unfortunately it will probably never happen now, because such a machine would completely steal the new Macbook's thunder.
 
yeah, it's important to remove the emotional ties to something. Emotion can point you in the direction that there's something wrong, but if you can't quantify it, then its just complaining

As a MBA user, I was fine with the display when I bought it in 2011. That was the current tech at the time. and comparatively nobody else had a laptop that was so small, light and thin, but still useful due to good power (ivy bridge i5's still do really well decently in power for everyday use).

However, it's now 2015, and barely anybody else is charging $1000+ for an ultrabook with a display that uses TN panels or lower than 1080p resolutions anymore.

But Apple seems to refuse to update the MacBook Air's display. it (at least in my opinion) is still one of the best ultrabooks on the market for everything else, EXCEPT The fact they are still basically using 3 year old display panels.

My 2011 display is broken, I still want a traditional laptop. I have a Surface Pro 2 that I love, but it still isn't quite the same as having a dedicated laptop with keyboard and trackpad. I won't buy another Air until they catch up the display. And I refuse to buy the new MacBook with only 1 port (and that it costs $1549 here)
You're in a tough position and Apple hasn't made things easier for those in a similar situation. If Windows isn't a hurdle, then the Dell XPS 13 seems to be the "it" machine at the moment. If I was looking at spending $1000+ for an ultrabook, that Dell would be on my short list.

Perhaps Apple will take the MBA form-factor, add retina, and make it the new Pro.
 
Shouldn't the headline say something like "ridiculously underpowered", or "ridiculous front facing camera"? Ok, I see it is a tour de force on slimming down the laptop, but I think this time they might have thrown the baby out with the bath water. I'll pass on this one.
 
Ableton Live is my main DAW for desktop & laptop. My main recording app for iPad is Auria. (I like Garageband for iPad but haven't used it much.) I use Auria a lot for tracking vocals and mixing. I find it's a really nice marriage with Ableton. Auria has excellent FabFilter mixing and mastering plugins available to buy in their store. They're the same FabFilter plugins you can buy for your desktop or laptop, only 10x less. A new version of Auria with midi support is coming this spring.

Touchable is a great controller for Ableton Live. Loopy HD is great for getting song ideas out quickly. Alchemy Mobile is an awesome iPad synth, but it's no longer available for sale because Apple just acquired the company. Samplr is an awesome sampler. I like Native Instruments iMaschine & Propellerhead's Figure for beats and bass. Singaling and Harmony Voice are good for background vocals. Audiobus is great for working with different audio apps within the iPad. AudioShare & AudioCopy are great for moving audio around from app to app or back to your computer.

My main photography apps on the computer are Photoshop & Camera Raw. On the iPad, I love Stackables, VSCO, Lightroom, Mextures, Rookie, etc..

There's really a wealth of excellent photography and music-making apps available for the iOS, and lots of cool apps for getting web and graphic design ideas started.

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Basically everything people have been complaining about in this thread but with more lolz.

Thanks for sharing. I'd never think of ipad for photo editing, to be honest - use again Mac for that, but it might have its advantages like portability.
 
It's not marketed for our kind of consumers. It is for those simple minded people who do one thing at a time.

I guess I'm one of those simple minded people. Probably 95% of the time I am using my rMBP 15 for surfing the internet and emails. I am excited by the new Macbook. I will keep the rMBP for heavy lifting and use the Macbook for most of my computer use.
 
Fully agree. I have a mid-2013 MBA 11". I'm mostly still happy with it as my ultraportable, but with an upgraded display it would be an outright fantastic little machine. Unfortunately it will probably never happen now, because such a machine would completely steal the new Macbook's thunder.

I expect that in under 12 months, the Macbook will be revised to add 1-3 more USB-C ports and the MBA line will be discontinued.

Like they should have done last week. ;)
 
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