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Ummm... not sure if serious.
The Air is 72 times faster than iPad 1, has four times more ram (that is ALSO faster), has 2 cameras (compared to zero), 2 microphones (up from one), four times the resolution, 10x the speed on cellular & over double on wifi, much thinner & lighter....
All this..... but TouchID is holding you back?? Bro.... get over it. Treat yourself, don't cheat yourself.

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Damn...
Briefly thought maybe you were telling the truth.
Then I went to the Apple Education store & saw that the Air is NOT listed with a discount.
NOT cool, bro.

I'm in the UK,and iPad Air is definitely discounted on apple educational store:
(only iPad Air though and neither older iPads were eligible for educational discount) US store might do the same?

Normal Apple Store Price:
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Both have an A7 so they will probably have the same RAM (I'm betting on 1GB).

I think you're right. But from what I've read, the new 64bit has a bigger footprint that'd benefit from extra RAM; it swaps out quite aggressively esp with tabs in Safari for example.

Looks like the cheapest iPad for me this year, then the full Monty next year when touch iD and more RAM are in line. I'm hoping to drop my macbook if possible.
 
I'm getting rid of my iPad 2 (32 GB white bezel Wi-Fi) for an iPad Air (32 GB white bezel Wi-Fi). Not only for the faster performance and Retina Display, but the fact it will be much lighter than my current iPad. :)
 
You know I just love how media outlets eat up anything apple makes but if it was any other company they'd get mediocre reviews for lack of any groundbreaking features.

I love how Apple continues to milk capacity pricing. 16gb at the same price year after year? 100 more for 128 vs 64?
 
Anand is hardly anyone's sock puppet. That site provides some of the most unbiased and respected reviews in the industry.

That is your oppinion.

Ofc he gives Apple extra good reviews, otherwise they wont hand him devices in the future.
 
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"its showing its age speed wise" and "the A6X chip still seems adequate from my perspective" seem to be opposing statements...
Which one is it... noticeably slow or plenty fast?? It can't be both. Lol.

I think it’s reasonably obvious - given the context - he was talking about the iPad 3rd gen vs. the 4th gen (vs. buying a 5th gen … assuming the price comparison on the 4th Gen is for a refurb) :)


100 more for 128 vs 64?

The $100 for 64GB additional isn’t actually a bad deal in the tablet space, and it’s a cheaper price-per-GB than the 16, 32 or 64GB models. That first $100 for 16GB makes me a touch cranky, but heck, the 16-32GB upgrade on some other premium, full-sized, non-Apple tablets is also $100, so go figure. :D
 
Heh, as usual the sock puppets give glowing reviews...

I mean, what's really that drastically different other than being lighter and thinner?

Read the reviews. And calling AnandTech a "sock puppet" is more insulting to you than to Anand.
 
Am I the only one not quite understanding the talk about being able to "type with both hands while using it in portrait orientation"? Why not purchase a Mini if that's the goal?
 
I read Anandtech's review. I don't remember their words but basically the reviewer said it was the best and fastest tablet on the planet. Now that's a good review.

Now if we can get some reviews on the elusive iPad Mini Retina.

Happy Hallow:apple::apple:n!
 
I assume you didn't read any of the reviews. The list of differences as mentioned in the reviews are as follows (not including the two very significant features you mentioned): 1. Faster 2. Better wifi speed 3. Better battery life 4. better GPU.

If these improvements don't matter to you then I recommend not getting the Air.

I agree but even Anandtech made a comment in the review that app developers are still targeting 32bit platforms/older products. And it doesn't help that Apple still wants to sell iPad 2's and first gen iPad mini's. By the time we see a real need for A7 power you will wanting to buy iPad 7 with 2gigs of ram. Every review site talks about one game that tries to push 64bit. I don't even like the game.
 
You know I just love how media outlets eat up anything apple makes but if it was any other company they'd get mediocre reviews for lack of any groundbreaking features.

I love how Apple continues to milk capacity pricing. 16gb at the same price year after year? 100 more for 128 vs 64?

Lol. Let's say hypothetically that one company makes great hardware and other companies don't. Guess what that means review wise? The iPad Air is amazing, I wouldn't buy one because I'd rather have the iPad mini with retina, but I recognize that it is amazing.

Secondly the 16GB is the same price and everything else about the device is massively upgraded. Get over it. And I live everyone who says that it's just the same thing again. It's a massive upgrade. The best thing you can get upgrade wise is a lighter and smaller product when it comes to tablets. That is exactly what this iteration is. It's hilarious that people think it isn't a major change, what do you expect?! Hahah. It's not going to wipe you yet, sorry.
 
Why would they make a 32gb base????? Enterprise customers only need 16gb. POS customers only need 8gb. $50 between teirs would be a horrible busmiess move.

Enterprise is not Apples largest customer. And why would enterprise want a iPad air in the first place. Hence the reason why iPad 2 is still on the market. A regular customer would be out if their minds to purchase a $400 2 year old iPad 2.
 
That is your oppinion.

Ofc he gives Apple extra good reviews, otherwise they wont hand him devices in the future

Or maybe he gives Apple good reviews because their products are good? Lol. Honestly if aliens landed on earth and you handed them an Apple laptop or a PC laptop which would they choose? If you handed them an iPad or any other tablet, which would they choose? Totally unbiased they would choose the Apple product and then kill all humans because of the other tablets.
 
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Or maybe he gives Apple good reviews because their products are good? Lol. Honestly if aliens landed on earth and you handed them an Apple laptop or a PC laptop which would they choose? If you handed them an iPad or any other tablet, which would they choose? Totally unbiased they would choose the Apple product and then kill all humans because of the other tablets.

Source?

Without source your statement has no point.

There is not even proof of aliens ever existing.
 
I wonder if the iPad mini with retina will be noticeably faster at opening apps than the iPad air. The iPad air having to power a larger retina display will slow it down ever so slightly, but the iPad mini's higher pixel density (326 vs. 264) might counteract that some. I know the iPad 2 opened apps slightly faster than the iPad with retina display, dispite the faster chip in the iPad with retina.
 
No Verge review? :p

Damn I want the iPad Air. I'm stuck with the "prototype" iPad.:mad::rolleyes:

Apparently The Verge didn't get a review unit--same as they didn't get a review unit for the 5s. Really very strange and unfortunate. I really hope this doesn't become an issue for them.
 
What is it with people being so obsessed with ram? Does the iPad really need more ram? Do you feel the iPad being slow because of the lack of ram?

Slow? No.
Have it really be annoying by making all my apps restart as I switch between them? heck yeah.
Will the decreased RAM impact the iPad Air in another year or two, as it will be a limiting factor in future iterations of iOS and applications? Yep.

Plus, the 1Gig of RAM has been around since iPad3.
 
Apparently The Verge didn't get a review unit--same as they didn't get a review unit for the 5s. Really very strange and unfortunate. I really hope this doesn't become an issue for them.

I wouldn't think it would hinder them at all. Might even help with their cred a little. Seems strange for Fox News to get a review unit ahead of them but it is entirety possible Fox News tech section has more readers than The Verge.
 
Really keen to feel the Air in the hand. The only thing I hated about the iPad was that it was just a little too weighty and fatiguing to hold to use it how you really wanted to.
 
Hi, 840quadra,

I felt the same way about the whole RAM issue but then I realised 2 days ago we don't really need it.

I ran a few tests and iOS 7.0.3 only eats 300Mb. Yes; the OS will though a lot into inactive RAM but an app can eat almost 700Mb before the OS force closes it. I found iOS eating up as much as 650Mb but then found that if pushed; will go down to just over 300Mb. iOS 8 will see more features; which in hand will eat more RAM, but I think iOS 8 will see the following-

wait for it...

wait for it...

RAM compression :) The same type of RAM compression as seen in Mavericks. Mavericks used a lot of techniques from iOS to make it more efficient, but only Mavericks has the RAM compression. So the way I see it, all devices running iOS7 will run iOS 8.

And I pretty sure that the tab reloading thing is not because of RAM (I haven't had that [iPhone 5, iOS 7.0.3] ), it might just be to save battery by removing it from of RAM/lowers its RAM footprint (by putting only the URL in RAM, rather than the whole page) as this would save battery.

My 5S is full of logs showing Low memory errors doing basic light photo editing, browsing, and other Apple and 3rd party applications. There are other behaviors with the device indicating it is low on memory, outside of just Safari reloading tabs.

I am fine with this on my phone, however I am not fine with this on a tablet I plan on doing image manipulation, editorial work, as well as other forms of Multimedia creative content. The Galaxy note 10.1 ships with 3GB of Ram, I would have been happy with just 2GB, provided it resolved the low memory issues. I believe it would have, as iOS, and most applications have great memory management, but not enough for 1GB (IMO) any longer.

The iPads this round are not for me. This is a personal decision, nothing more .
 
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