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Yet here and elsewhere people say that this is too ~positive~ and that these reviewers are paid by Apple, etc.

I'm really curious as to what these people wanted to happen to be happy with the review...



You might be better off in the 'alternatives to iOS' section.

A review is just that, a review. Its not a medium to find fault, be positive or negative.

There may well be features the iphone doesn't have but that's not a reason why someone would not enjoy using the product.
 
Josh Topolsky said he could barely make it through a day on iPhone 6. I am sure the iPhone 6 won't have any better battery than the 5s, which means bad.

Right.. The 5s has a battery 1h30 less than the top phone that appeared 6 months after it got released. That's about 15% less than phones twice its size. So, how is that very bad. Hyperbole?

Unless he compared both phones side by side, you can't deduct anything from this. Only benchmarks under controlled circumstances can tell you anything definitive.
 
Actual result don't count in your book? If the 6+ camera is exceptional, its exceptional. They did beat Samsung's cameras in previous phone according to all reviews.

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That's not true. In this phone arena review the iPhone 5s came out middle of the pack against the note 3

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The Note 4 isn't out yet, but when it does I am sure it'll take much better pictures than the iPhone 6.

If you have comparison shots of the iPhone 6 vs other flagships, like the Lumia 1020 or something else post it and let me see.
 
Right.. The 5s has a battery 1h30 less than the top phone that appeared 6 months after it got released. That's about 15% less than phones twice its size. So, how is that very bad. Hyperbole?

Unless he compared both phones side by side, you can't deduct anything from this. Only benchmarks under controlled circumstances can tell you anything definitive.

I don't care about benchmarks. What matters is regular everyday use. Not controlled environments. That's a ridiculous thing to say.

The iPhone is notorious of horrible battery life. Not only is it a widely known and discussed fact but I am a former iPhone user so I know first hand.

Joshua used it. Could barely make it through a day. That's the end.

Have you used an iPhone 6? No. So you have nothing to say about it. I'm quoting someone who actually used the phone in real life.

In real life an iPhone 5s, from my experience will barely last me a little over half a day, while my G2 lasts from 5am all the way to whenever I go to bed at night. And this is constant heavy use I'm talking about. So what you're saying isn't true. Controlled battery drain tests mean absolutely nothing in real life.

IPhone battery life is fine when the phone is new out of the box, so if the phone is lasting about a day now and the phone hasn't even come out yet, we can expect awful battery life and to be plugged in to a charger constantly, just like now. And god help you if you use all that fitness stuff and have it connected to your apple watch too. See which one dies first.

The point is saying "2 days battery life" is just misleading hype from Apple paid zombies. You will never get that out of an iPhone in the real world. A day maybe with light to medium use perhaps. And that's with everything off. iCloud, Siri, Notifications, Push, Location, Wifi, Bluetooth, etc etc. Some people just turn off Data and turn it on when they want to check their messages. That's the only way.



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Did any reviews specifically mention whether Safari tabs reload or not?

No. I don't think anybody cares about that yet.
 
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Ok. Let's get this **** cleared up once for all:
*Note 4 dimensions: 153.5mm x 78.6mm x 8.5mm - 5.7" screen
*iOhone 6+ dimensions: 157.1mm x 77.8mm x 7.1mm - 5.5" screen
The size of these phones is pretty much the same.
0.2" extra diagnostic doesn't look much difference ( LG G3 next to Note 3 comparison).
Stop trolling would you?

Note 4 is shorter (by almost 4mm) and a little wider (0.8mm) while being thicker (due to much bigger battery, yet it has a bigger screen, which is what matters.

Try all you want, Apple's design is dated and there's no reason for the huge bezels. When Apple finally gets around to shrinking bezels, and when they get rid of physical home button, both of which are bound to happen, it will be hailed as a 'revolution'.

So why can't we call out the iPhone for being so huge, like many others are doing?

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I don't care about benchmarks. What matters is regular everyday use. Not controlled environments. That's a ridiculous thing to say.

The iPhone is notorious of horrible battery life. Not only is it a widely known and discussed fact but I am a former iPhone user so I know first hand.

Joshua used it. Could barely make it through a day. That's the end.

Have you used an iPhone 6? No. So you have nothing to say about it. I'm quoting someone who actually used the phone in real life.

In real life an iPhone 5s, from my experience will barely last me a little over half a day, while my G2 lasts from 5am all the way to whenever I go to bed at night. And this is constant heavy use I'm talking about. So what you're saying isn't true. Controlled battery drain tests mean absolutely nothing in real life.

IPhone battery life is fine when the phone is new out of the box, so if the phone is lasting about a day now and the phone hasn't even come out yet, we can expect awful battery life and to be plugged in to a charger constantly, just like now. And god help you if you use all that fitness stuff and have it connected to your apple watch too. See which one dies first.

The point is saying "2 days battery life" is just misleading hype from Apple paid zombies. You will never get that out of an iPhone in the real world. A day maybe with light to medium use perhaps. And that's with everything off. iCloud, Siri, Notifications, Push, Location, Wifi, Bluetooth, etc etc. Some people just turn off Data and turn it on when they want to check their messages. That's the only way.



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No. I don't think anybody cares about that yet.

You are going to get flamed for daring to say this. Phones like G2, Note 2/3 are well known for having amazing battery life in daily use, by real users (not testers), in all sorts of scenarios. No one ever has said that about an iPhone.
 
I don't think anyone is saying it is revolutionary because of the screen sizes! That's what fandroids would wan't you to believe! It's nothing revolutionary about screen sizes! Apple have been doing different sizes on different other products and these people who say Apple did copied screen size from the competition are ignorant. To be fair, Apple was doing fine with 4" and I think would have still continued to sell more then any single company if it kept the same screen size.

While I love my iphone 5 and iOS, if Apple didn't come out with a 5"+ screen this year I was going to give the SNG4 a try for the next year or two. Yes, I wanted a phablet this year. I wanted something bigger than my iPhone 5 but smaller than my iPad rMini. If Apple wouldn't produce it, I would give something else a try for my mobile phone requirements. Luckily I would still have my rMini to fall back on daily for my iOS needs/wants, especially if I wasn't happy with the GN4.

What kept me with the iPhone was the release of the 5.5" iP6+ and how well iOS devices interact with each other and the Apple ecosystem, which I am heavily invested in (Mac Mini, iPad rMini, iPad 3, iPad Mini, three Apple TV3s, iTunes, etc...). I really didn't want to split in half and have some things with iOS and others with Play Store. I've tried a few android devices and while not bad, just not what I am looking for most of the time. They have their benefits but they have their flaws/cons as well.

Luckily, Apple came through and brought the 5.5" model out which sealed the deal with staying with Apple for another 2 years.
 
I don't care about benchmarks. What matters is regular everyday use. Not controlled environments. That's a ridiculous thing to say.

The iPhone is notorious of horrible battery life. Not only is it a widely known and discussed fact but I am a former iPhone user so I know first hand.

Joshua used it. Could barely make it through a day. That's the end.

Have you used an iPhone 6? No. So you have nothing to say about it. I'm quoting someone who actually used the phone in real life.

In real life an iPhone 5s, from my experience will barely last me a little over half a day, while my G2 lasts from 5am all the way to whenever I go to bed at night. And this is constant heavy use I'm talking about. So what you're saying isn't true. Controlled battery drain tests mean absolutely nothing in real life.

IPhone battery life is fine when the phone is new out of the box, so if the phone is lasting about a day now and the phone hasn't even come out yet, we can expect awful battery life and to be plugged in to a charger constantly, just like now. And god help you if you use all that fitness stuff and have it connected to your apple watch too. See which one dies first.

The point is saying "2 days battery life" is just misleading hype from Apple paid zombies. You will never get that out of an iPhone in the real world. A day maybe with light to medium use perhaps. And that's with everything off. iCloud, Siri, Notifications, Push, Location, Wifi, Bluetooth, etc etc. Some people just turn off Data and turn it on when they want to check their messages. That's the only way.



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No. I don't think anybody cares about that yet.

My 5S makes it through the day with moderate usage. I assume the 6 will too.
 
I don't think it's particularly fair to say the Plus is a fail due to the OS not being entirely tailored to it just yet. As you mentioned, Apple will iron out the kinks in the software imminently.

Exactly. If it was perfect, there wouldn't be any reason for future releases of iOS. As with any operating system, there will be things to fix, just like any other iOS release in the past (this is not something new).

As for optimizing iOS 8 for the 6+, some of it has already happened, hence the landscape mode, dual column mode in some apps like mail, notes, etc... More options/features will come as the OS progresses. Apple likes to take their time with it to ensure it is programmed well and that it makes sense the way it is setup or layed out. They do not want to slap something together and put it in the OS just to say "we did it". This is coming from a guy that has been waiting for quick reply for text/imessages for years now and has jailbroken my devices each time to gain some of those features. As iOS steadily moves forward, even at a crawl, more and more of the things that I jailbroke my phone or ipad for are now being incorporated right into the stock OS. I am running out of reasons to jailbreak my iphone other than to have unlimited iRadio and Pandora Radio skips.

Presently installed:
Adblocker
Auki (will not need this once the 6+ arrives since it is stock)
AnyAttach
Burst Mode (will not need this once the 6+ arrives since it is stock)
FlipControlCenter (wish this was built into iOS so I can select the toggles I want in Control Center.)
Slo-mo Mod (will not need this once the 6+ arrives since it is stock)
NoCoverFlow
PandoraSkips
iTunes Radio Unlimited

Yes, I am a fanboy for Apple because I like thier products. They do what I need them to do (mostly, jailbreaks help though) and they provide me and my family an easy, low maintenance device(s) for everyday use. I am tired of being everyone tech-support when it comes to phones, tablets, computers, etc... I haven't really had an apple owner ask me for help with anything concerning an idevice. Granted I haven't had an android person ask me for help either other than my 60+ yr old dad and his SGN 10.1. So take that with a grain of salt.

In the end, I know I am going to be happier with my iP6+ when it arrives on Friday and for the next 2 yrs until I decide to upgrade again.
 
It could be possible that some android phones have better batteries. Apple is not the best at everything.
The real issue is whether or not the battery is good enough for us. I just got the free replacement for my iPhone 5 battery and it now works well. I also have the mophie case to use when needed.

This works for my usage but I respect it may not for others.
 
I don't care about benchmarks. What matters is regular everyday use. Not controlled environments. That's a ridiculous thing to say.

The iPhone is notorious of horrible battery life. Not only is it a widely known and discussed fact but I am a former iPhone user so I know first hand.

Joshua used it. Could barely make it through a day. That's the end.
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Ahh the good old gut feeling over scientific methodology. You will go far in life.
 
Looks like the 6+ falls short of the competition, especially the LG G3.

Ive doesn't do ergonomics, all he knows is thinner. So now we have a really thin, wide, and tall iPhone that's miserable to hold.

Just a few highlights of the G3, to show what Apple's missing:

  • Quad HD (2,560 x 1,440) screen (534 ppi)
  • Ergonomic design with curved back to fit the hand
  • 3000 mAh Li-Ion battery (not only does a curved back hold easier, it permits a humongous battery!)
  • Accessible battery. Just open the back and slap a fresh one in.
  • 2.5GHz Quad-Core CPU
  • 3GB RAM

Clad that sucker in aloominium and load iOS 8 on it, and it's YEARS ahead of Apple's iPhones.

Aside from the specs, what bothers me the most is the ergonomics. With Jobs gone, Apple could choose to focus on ergonomics, yet they remain mired in thin.

I compared the screen of the G3 with a G2. The screen on the G3 is gray and looks "washed out". End of story. I went with the 4.7 inch Iphone 6. You better believe that screen is not dull.
 
It could be possible that some android phones have better batteries. Apple is not the best at everything.
The real issue is whether or not the battery is good enough for us. I just got the free replacement for my iPhone 5 battery and it now works well. I also have the mophie case to use when needed.

This works for my usage but I respect it may not for others.

Apple prioritizes thinness. I think phones are thin enough, I'd much rather put a bigger battery at the cost of a few mm.
 
Apple should move the home button to the back of the phone like the LG G3, and get rid of those huge bezels. It might be strange at first, but a button on the back that you press with your index finger is easier to use than a button you hit w/ your thumb. While they're at it, they should redesign those fugly looking stripes on the back.
 
In a move that should come as a stunner to only the monumentally stupid, every outfit that got a phone for review megaslurped it to the suckmost extent in said review. In another shocking turn of events, there was a public interest piece that was poorly researched and not verified in the slightest in the news today, with a teaser that was full of crap.
 
Apple should move the home button to the back of the phone like the LG G3, and get rid of those huge bezels. It might be strange at first, but a button on the back that you press with your index finger is easier to use than a button you hit w/ your thumb. While they're at it, they should redesign those fugly looking stripes on the back.

G2/G3 moved the power button to back, not Home. Home/back etc are soft on screen buttons in Android.

This is not possible in iOS.
 
G2/G3 moved the power button to back, not Home. Home/back etc are soft on screen buttons in Android.

This is not possible in iOS.
Just saying that a button on the back works. It doesn't matter what you design that button to do.
 
Apple prioritizes thinness. I think phones are thin enough, I'd much rather put a bigger battery at the cost of a few mm.

Understood and I even agree. The discussion seems to denigrate into a take sides, stand your ground debate, just like the one for ram after awhile. I'm just not sure why people can't accept others experiences one way or another.
 
Apple prioritizes thinness. I think phones are thin enough, I'd much rather put a bigger battery at the cost of a few mm.

Yet, actual testing, you know "scientific method" testing, shows that even now, the 5s is merely last 15% less than the Android phone that lasts the longest under heavy use. That's about 1h30 (only a few phones are around there). The other phones that exceed the Iphone are within 5% of it (about 30 minutes).

Soooo. Feeling, etc... Yes, feel the force Luke...

You do know that the more you use your phone, the less time your battery lasts hmmmmm. Iphone users notoriously use their phone much more than Android users, they have more apps, they browse more, they buy more, etc.
 
No different to the Apple fanbois who praise this this me too device as revolutionary after the competition has been making 4.7 inch and 5.5 inch tablets for ages.

(I say tablets and not phones as these devices are really tablets).

IMO, the screen size isn't what's "revolutionary" about these phones (OK, phablets, LOL). I've pre-ordered the 6 and TBH I'm apprehensive that I'll find it to be larger than I want an always-with-me device to be.

No, to my way of thinking, the integration of Touch ID with the new payments will be the so-called killer feature, as well as Touch ID integration with third-party apps.

BTW, I'm dead right about the Techradar crew.
 
That's not true. In this phone arena review the iPhone 5s came out middle of the pack against the note 3

Color-reproduction-samples.jpg


The Note 4 isn't out yet, but when it does I am sure it'll take much better pictures than the iPhone 6.

If you have comparison shots of the iPhone 6 vs other flagships, like the Lumia 1020 or something else post it and let me see.

Are you joking buddy. Get a real review and not this!
That site has 99.9999% anti-apple rants BTW.
Find me a real photography site that says the same.

White balance and colour reproduction is not even accurate in daylight let alone difficult conditions, Low light color, white point, noise, etc. None is better with Note 3.
Focusing speadily, fast pictures shot to shot, fast pictures from pressing shutter, all better with 5s.

Part of the problem is they choose a high MP on a small sensor, Android is a dog when it comes to camera interactions and the Note 3 processor has a lot less power than the A7l
 
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