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First Jailbreak for iOS 14 Limited to Devices With A9(X) Chip and Below

darkpaw said:
Which removes income from the developers.

One of my apps was pirated, and made freely available, and I saw the income drop right off. It never recovered. People didn't want to pay $0.99 for an app. By allowing this to happen, these checkra1n people are hurting thousands of developers, including one-man setups like me.
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While I certainly feel for you, I don't think it's quite right to blame the jailbreak for your lost revenue. If you wrote a macOS application and it got pirated, would you blame Apple for not locking macOS down as tightly as iOS? They certainly allowed it to happen and on a scale far greater than the user base of checkra1n by allowing so much freedom in the operating system.

I guess my point is that any system, regardless of intention, can and will be abused by people who don't want to pay for things. The blame should land squarely on those distributing the pirated material and not on those who may have, as a consequence of freedom and user control, made it possible.
 
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mariusfanu said:
Do people still jailbreak these days on their main phone or is it more just a hobby trying to hack things?
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I personally jailbroke to replace the battery icon with actual numbers and also hide the home bar. It looks cleaner and it's just these two simple things that stop me from updating to iOS 14.

There are actually very useful tweaks, but most of them get left behind and don't get updated to support the newest versions. The community is not as alive as it used to ve, because Apple pretty much continues adding the missing features that people made tweaks for.
 
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xxray said:
So much judgment in this thread right off the bat lol. Jailbreaking is a great option to change things in iOS that you just don’t like. For example, jailbreaking would allow me to watch 4K YouTube videos on my iPad Pro 10.5, a feature I should’ve already had.
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Please explain.
 
Falter Brine said:
Does anyone know what this is in the background of Tim cook's Atlantic interview? (I can't post my question there cause its politics and I have insufficient beans to do that or something.)
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A giant outdoor HomePod :p

Who knows, probably just some fancy sculpture.

As for reasons to jailbreak: my killer feature is blocking YouTube ads in the app. There are a lot of other small bonuses for sure, but that’s essentially the main reason these days :) I also just like doing it for the thrill of doing it, to show it can be done. I’m a tinkerer though, not everyone wants to or even cares.
 
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Air Message is why I keep an older jailbroken phone around, great to have the full iMessage experience on windows / linux / whatever you want.

I don't jailbreak my primary phone for work related reasons.

I do admit my reasons to jailbreak have decreased over the years though.

SparkDev

www.sparkdev.me www.sparkdev.me
 
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The more concerning thing for me is if the jailbreakers can get in so can law enforcement. Now I know many go with the "well don't do anything wrong and it's not a problem" but many of us have highly confidential and personal data on our phones. Fly through an international border and customs can look at your devices. So I guess I look at jailbreaks as a good opportunity for apple to lock down these mitigations. I am happy to have my Mac an open environment, while my phones and iPad are armored fortresses.
 
These threads never change!

Post #1 - there’s a jailbreak!
Post #2-15 - “people still jailbreak?” Lame. Losers, “why bother”, “that’s so 2015” etc.
Post #16-20 - Here’s what’s still great about jailbreaking
Post #21-25 - “oh cool”, “didn’t realize”, “I’ll look into that”.
Post 26 onward - bashing, supporting, kicking, screaming, applauding.

Wash, rinse, repeat...

I jailbroke my devices on iOS 13.5. Realized that most of the features I had formerly used (f.lux is a good example) have been implemented some way already into native iOS.

I have always found jailbreaking to be more impactful on my iPad than my iPhone. I’ll look into the jailbreak subreddit and see what’s up on ios14.
 
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@ Thread members hating on jailbreaking:

I guess you are all joking or being sarcastic ? Or just plain ignorant ?
 
darkpaw said:
Which removes income from the developers.

One of my apps was pirated, and made freely available, and I saw the income drop right off. It never recovered. People didn't want to pay $0.99 for an app. By allowing this to happen, these checkra1n people are hurting thousands of developers, including one-man setups like me.
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Yes, that is a side-effect of Jailbreaking. As piracy is inevitable, one can only minimize it’s effect by considering the following:
  • Pirates will, usually have access to a single copy of your .ipa and therefore is unable to update and/or potentially get new features. Therefore meaningful updates may deter pirates since they will have to manually ‘re-rip’ subsequent .ipa’s.
  • Keeping critical business logic server-side whilst having a ‘dumb’ frontend can make a pirated .ipa useless, assuming some server-side authentication.
  • Compilation with ‘stub methods’ per-se and then replacing/downloading important business logic at runtime (this can become a labyrinth depending on the type of technology used.)
  • Obfuscation of code and static analysis techniques, which I don’t think is permitted by Apple, but it could be done in principle.
Again, these are only deterrents.

I personally learn towards that these ‘checkra1n people’ contribute a net-positive, overall. But we all have opinions.
 
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Some of the reasons to jailbreak have been stated in the posts above. I’ll add one of my favorites: no swipe to unlock. If I don’t have a notification I can simply raise my phone and look at it. Something so simple can and should be implemented by Apple but they are stubborn in giving users options. Auto unlocking your phone, the mechanism you will need to do thousands of times is so much simpler and more elegant and changes my user experience.

It’s really about the little things enabled by jailbreaking that make me enjoy the technology much more than the mechanisms mandated by the overlords at apple.
 
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However, with the recently published blackbird vulnerability, we are able to get control of the Secure Enclave on A10 and A10X and disable this mitigation.
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All issues aside about whether or not jailbreaking is useful in today’s iOS 14 world... the fact that someone’s found a way to decrypt the Secure Enclave is very alarming. I hope this can be patched via a firmware update, for those who don’t wish to jailbreak. For those who do, they can keep their devices on vanilla iOS 14.
 
I jailbreak - like most - just to have more customization, not steal apps. Probably won’t do it this time around but if they ever got xCloud working, I’d do it in a heartbeat. So pissed at Apple for the way they’ve approached game streaming.
 
darkpaw said:
One of my apps was pirated, and made freely available, and I saw the income drop right off. It never recovered. People didn't want to pay $0.99 for an app.
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That should be a good indicator that your app is not worth the price. You need to either increase the value of that $1 or make a "lite" version for people to try before they buy.
 
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Jailbreaking is good for all the reasons listed by others above (none of which I need, personally), but most importantly because it keeps finding security issues with iOS and the chips in Apple devices.

Without jailbreakers, these exploits would still be out there and probably in use by some three letter agency equivalents from governments all over the world, but no one would know they were out there and Apple couldn't patch them.

The (in)Secure Enclave is a great idea, but still exploitable. Anything that brings security issues to light is a great idea.
 
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LeadingHeat said:
All issues aside about whether or not jailbreaking is useful in today’s iOS 14 world... the fact that someone’s found a way to decrypt the Secure Enclave is very alarming. I hope this can be patched via a firmware update, for those who don’t wish to jailbreak. For those who do, they can keep their devices on vanilla iOS 14.
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Who said they decrypted the secure Enclave

we are able to get control of the Secure Enclave

Control does not have to mean they decrypted SE.
 
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repoman016 said:
Those who crap on jailbreaking have probably never done it before. Sure its a bit dated with the new iOS features (that apple stole/borrowed from the jailbreaking community, you're welcome haters) but that doesn't mean the enthusiasts just stop doing it. There are features that aren't for everyone and some people like to have more customization than what apple likes to tell us we have to use.
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I tried it, battery ran out in 2 hours.... probably because I had to restart every 15min, so not worth it. That’s why after this article we won’t hear about jail breaking again
 
Man, jailbreaking... would make me feel like a kid getting into that again! So many great apps.

One of my fav apps (I can't remember the name of it), it would show you on the home screen when someone has read your iMessage, and when someone was typing back. So slick.
 
Textime said:
Those who are still jailbreaking have lost control of their life
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You do know Apple 'borrows' many jailbreak ideas and bakes it into future updates, right?

'Lost control of their life' - merely over what they do with their phone? odd.

Funny enough most JB users dont care whether you too are a JB user, stock user, or even an Android or Jitterbug customer. Tech isn't a cult. For some.

tridley68 said:
Jailbreaking a thing of the past.
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if it was a thing of the past, tools wouldn't continue to be released and the user base would be 0.

It's a thing of the past, for YOU. Which is fine but
 
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There's another reason to jailbrake, just today a colleague of mine asked how to install an IPA, it was for his drone, he said if he could install the IPA he could do much more with his drone, I guess the app uses GPS spoofing, like he was in the states so he can fly higher and farther and maybe also in restricted areas.

I myself had a jailbroken iPhone just a few weeks ago, plenty of reasons to do so, for instance locked Apps, unlock with FaceId.
 
itsmilo said:
I will install it on my old iPhone 6s just because I like playing around with stuff and to see what I may miss. I am guessing not much since I am sure none of the tweaks have been updated for iOS 14 yet.

Things I liked back in the iOS10 days:

  1. Locking ANY app with TouchID / FaceID
  2. Changing default apps (partly solved now)
  3. Rearrange and resize App Icons any way I want
  4. Change the Quick-Access App from the Lockscreen like why do we need a camera button if we can just swipe? I would rather set it to open another 3rd party app.

    There was more but I forgot about it over the years. I would also like to have the battery percentage inside of the battery icon in the status bar (there is room for that!) on iPhone X >
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5. GPS Spoofer
6. 5-icon dock
7. iCaughtU Pro
 
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