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that web page history viewer seems like a little Cover Flow clone

Yah that was actually embarrasing.

The worst is yet to happen as many Android Devs are going to just copy what apple does with the iphone as far as UI whenever possible.

i wasnt that impressed? Maybe its too early to judge but the iPhone seems way more elegant and functional.

Yah me too. It will good for apple to have competition blah blah but this is what I expected. Meh. It just looks like a bunch of palm developer apps but on a new platform.
 
are you high? what exactly have they "stolen"?

Just the look and feel of it all. :rolleyes:

But, they couldn"t use the multi-touch interface.... Zooming was a button on the side.
But it's good that the iPhone gets some serious competition. Apple has done the hard work of making the iPhone OS nice and stable (tnx to the iPhone dev team..) and starting February the developers can start making some real cool apps.
It's going to be a cool 2008 regarding mobile devices ala iPhone....
 
apple legal has some work to do in the next few months...
I wonder how this will effect their relationship
 
I don't consider Google to have stolen anything from Apple

It's a pretty big coincidence then. Shortly after co-operating with Apple to put Google Maps on the iPhone they suddenly come out with their own mobile platform.

That dark dock with white outline looks suspiciously Leopard like. And the address book icon, and the browser is Webkit based. If not stolen then strongly-inspired.
 
Just curious why? What has Google shown on their prototypes that you don't have on the iPhone? I really don't get the hype around Android (yet).

Its the concept. A lot of manufacturers and carries are already on board. Its open source and therefore will attract a lot of devs to improve. Thus the platform is completely open and encourages 3rd party applications and the like.

How is this different to Symbian, Blackberry et al? Not a lot -but the platform will be more ( potential of ) mass market, and of course, increased competition.
 
Just curious why? What has Google shown on their prototypes that you don't have on the iPhone? I really don't get the hype around Android (yet).

Besides the fact that Google has a pretty nice track record with their web interfaces and products, I'm guessing this is of such huge interest to folks (even at these preliminary stages) because it's open to the other, oh, 65% of mobile users in the US that don't have AT&T and the millions upon millions in other parts of the world...
 
I know that Apple plans on releasing an SDK for the iPhone, but a lot of people are worried that it'll be extremely limited. I wonder if Google encourages outside development and the threat of more people using their services, Apple will reconsider locking down the phone at all.

I hope!

Fishes,
narco.
 
It's a pretty big coincidence then. Shortly after co-operating with Apple to put Google Maps on the iPhone they suddenly come out with their own mobile platform.

That dark dock with white outline looks suspiciously Leopard like. And the address book icon, and the browser is Webkit based. If not stolen then strongly-inspired.


Comments like this are the reason we're known as zealots...

:(
 
Comments like this are the reason we're known as zealots...

:(

No, comments like yours are the reason we're known as zealots. I made some factual observations, which is not very zealot like. You simply called me a name, which is very zealot like.
 
It's a pretty big coincidence then. Shortly after co-operating with Apple to put Google Maps on the iPhone they suddenly come out with their own mobile platform.

That dark dock with white outline looks suspiciously Leopard like. And the address book icon, and the browser is Webkit based. If not stolen then strongly-inspired.

There have been rumours of this for months and months ( a gPhone). It takes time to develop something like this and I wouldn't be surprised if work had started long before the iPhone was announced.

Anyway, so what if Google chooses to get into the cell phone O/S business - I don't understand why people are getting so upset. People saying Google are copying Apple- its a bit two faced - because Apple have copied ideas on numerous times. Its OK for Apple to copy, but not others copying from Apple - if this really is the case?

Keep perspective...

Personally I find the UI similar to SE P800 - just by turning that task bar upside down....
 
Yes!
Competition is good. And not near as threatening to the iPhone as some seem to think.

If Android really won't see the light of day until late '08 (I somehow doubt it's that far off), and with Apple opening up the iPhone to 3rd party development (the more wide open, the better), the iPhone could (in theory) have a solid 6 months of 3rd party developers working their magic, 3G and who knows what else. Factor that solid year of "iPhones in the wild" under their belts, and the super tight integration with the Mac OS (more so than, say, Vista) and I'm pretty sure Apple is still sitting very pretty.

If anything, or at the very least, this may force Apple to open up the iPhone platform further/faster than if Android did not exist.
Strength in numbers, the more the merrier, or something...
 
As an addition to this neat story.. and making it more Apple related.. ;)

The presenter in the "Androidology" videos is clearly using an Apple Infared Remote for presentation control :D :apple:
 
Anyway, so what if Google chooses to get into the cell phone O/S business - I don't understand why people are getting so upset. People saying Google are copying Apple- its a bit two faced - because Apple have copied ideas on numerous times. Its OK for Apple to copy, but not others copying from Apple - if this really is the case?

I'm not getting upset, if you could see me you would see I'm cool as a cucumber. Merely pointing out that this is history repeating. Apple shared the Mac prototypes with Microsoft so that Microsoft could port their apps to it. Shortly after Microsoft came out with Windows - they had secretly copied everything they saw.

Now, with Google, Apple co-operated with them to get Google Maps and Gmail on to the iPhone. Probably Google have had iPhone prototypes for 2 years. Now they bring out their own Phone OS that looks very Apple-like in many respects. It is a very similar to what happened with Microsoft.
 
apple legal has some work to do in the next few months...
I wonder how this will effect their relationship

Yeah. They really should communicate more so they'll find out quickly if one company is copying from the other. Hey, I have an idea. Maybe someone from Google should sit on Apple's board of directors. Maybe even the CEO??

All kidding aside, as long as someone brings it to Canada, I'll buy one.
 
Its interesting. I dont like it though. It doesnt look nice, it looks like any other windows mobil broswer.
 
I'm not getting upset, if you could see me you would see I'm cool as a cucumber. Merely pointing out that this is history repeating. Apple shared the Mac prototypes with Microsoft so that Microsoft could port their apps to it. Shortly after Microsoft came out with Windows - they had secretly copied everything they saw.

Now, with Google, Apple co-operated with them to get Google Maps and Gmail on to the iPhone. Probably Google have had iPhone prototypes for 2 years. Now they bring out their own Phone OS that looks very Apple-like in many respects. It is a very similar to what happened with Microsoft.
Oh I forgot, Apple invented the GUI. I also forgot , Xerox Corp stole it from them.
 
It would be nice if Apple incorporated the StreetView function in my iPhone. I found that was kind of cool.

Also, they showed their 3g speeds but did not show the phone using wifi. They also did not mention the battery life on the 3g network.
 
Not too impressed

I think Google is doing "good things" with Android, but two things I noticed from the video:

*Screen updates in the browser were painfully slow during finger dragging. Dragging that zoomed-in web page around showed a lot of choppy delay. Many navigation and interface elements looked "un-fluid," and I think a lot of it is because Google can't (or doesn't want to) copy some things that Apple did.

*The talk about how "the best apps are yet to come" and "we're really excited about this" reminded me of Apple marketing and WWDC.

Call me a zealot, but these just stuck out to me. :p
 
Awesome. In a year's time, if the iPhone isn't sufficiently open and ahead of the curve, there's another place I can go.

That very fact will likely be just what is needed to keep the iPhone open and ahead of the curve.
 
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