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How? Just curious. Did you accidentally drop it ? Or so,e hardware failure ?
2nd SSD just failed (original Toshiba 128GiB failed within 18 months, this was an OWC 240GiB drive that made it six years). machine totally worn out. all legs snapped from bottom, 3000+ battery cycles. keys won't attach to the alu frame any longer as dust grinding has worn away the hooks. some keys wore through the top surface and illuminate through the entire top. dents, scratches, the business. about 30-40 stuck pixels and screen really dim.

nice machine on the whole and well worth the money. glad it wore out close to getting this one.
 
Why?

8GiB is more than enough for me and I don't want to pay over £1000 for a machine. This one came in at £898, which is peanuts :)

My secondary machine (2019 Air) has 8GB and it's been terrible even for light use if you care about responsiveness.

Just connect an external display on a Mac with 8GB and 8 becomes 6 due to the integrated GPU.

Safari with few tabs easily sucks a few gigs let alone other browsers. Switching between user is super slow (my wife has her account on the laptop)

The fast SSD helps with swapping, but still, it is bad.

The new Rosetta translating framework is likely going be very taxing on memory footprint until apps are native.

I ordered the 16GB Air and wouldn't consider 8GB. In fact, I was even considered camping in front of my local Apple Store and talking people off 8GB models :)
 
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I ordered a MPB with 16GB RAM AND 512 SSD. I just got the notification that it has shipped, although funny enough from the Netherlands (to the Czech Republic) and not from China. So Apple was holding off on shipments 🤔
I’m excited!!
 
I have been searching for that too, but can’t find a 16GB model anywhere in the Netherlands. They seem to lag behind some weeks.
Same here in NL! Mac mini 16GB pre-ordered last week, still showing Dec 2nd expected delivery date. I can see 8GB versions for pickup tomorrow but nothing on 16GB.
 
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So you’re spending that much on a machine for only 6-10 months? Redesigns are coming 3rd qr at latest
I think saved £200 is not worth of 6-10 months of suffering. Honestly, 16GB should be the default no matter how light use and especially if you buy for someone else.

Apple has a long history of very poor base model choices (spinning HDD in base iMac, 128GB storage, 8GB SSD portion in FusionDrive, 16GB iPhone/iPad storage option). This 8GB base config is one of them. Sadly people care more about Geekbench scores...
 
Yet here I am running all my apps with no issues on M1 8GB. Lightroom CC under Rosetta 2 buttery smooth.

I think some people think that with 8GB the machine will grind to a halt. The reality is, there are no issues outside edge cases.

£200 is fine, if it means I have a laptop for the next 12-18 months. The machine cost £899, I'd be surprised if it drops below £600 anytime soon.
 
Yet here I am running all my apps with no issues on M1 8GB. Lightroom CC under Rosetta 2 buttery smooth.

I think some people think that with 8GB the machine will grind to a halt. The reality is, there are no issues outside edge cases.

£200 is fine, if it means I have a laptop for the next 12-18 months. The machine cost £899, I'd be surprised if it drops below £600 anytime soon.
Agree. 8GB with the educational discount is really a sweat spot. The used market won't take into account that discount either.
 
I think saved £200 is not worth of 6-10 months of suffering. Honestly, 16GB should be the default no matter how light use and especially if you buy for someone else.

Apple has a long history of very poor base model choices (spinning HDD in base iMac, 128GB storage, 8GB SSD portion in FusionDrive, 16GB iPhone/iPad storage option). This 8GB base config is one of them. Sadly people care more about Geekbench scores...
Sure man. I'm not sure anyone is suffering..I know I'm not when watching NFL Game Pass on a 2008 24" iMac with no stutters or anything else with only 4GiB of RAM.

People way over-estimate their requirements.

This thread is case in point.

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I think saved £200 is not worth of 6-10 months of suffering. Honestly, 16GB should be the default no matter how light use and especially if you buy for someone else.

Apple has a long history of very poor base model choices (spinning HDD in base iMac, 128GB storage, 8GB SSD portion in FusionDrive, 16GB iPhone/iPad storage option). This 8GB base config is one of them. Sadly people care more about Geekbench scores...
I'd like you to provide a real-world example of the average MBA purchaser requiring over 8GiB of RAM.

It handle nearly all university-level studenta more than well enough, who are some of the most frequent purchasers of second-hand machines.

Also, FWIW, during lockdown (UK) nearly the entire market for second-hand computers dried up due to home-schooling.
 
I thought about it quite a bit actually.

I determined that spending £540 on add-ons would be half of an updated base machine for the next revision cycle (with LED and the like).

Having said that, my last machine just broke after 8+ of heavy usage, so perhaps I made the wrong decision.

I also have two nursery fees coming soon (at least £1600/mo after the tax reduction), so I better keep some change around.
May I ask what are nursery fees?
 
The benchmarks are pretty good.

But tempting as it is, I will wait for the 32gb MBP versions.
 
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