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First Mac Mini Benchmark Surfaces Ahead of November 7 Launch
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Then I can really help you out. I live in a nice neighborhood!
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That has nothing to do with upgradability. This CPU goes on BGA mount, and all CPUs on BGA mounts are soldered by the very design.
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If it throttles under heavy load, I already have a list of Hackintosh components that I will bundle together, and I REALLY hope that I will tear down that list and throw it away eventually.
People build ATX towers with multiple fans or liquid cooling systems to keep this beast cool. Compare that to that little fan that is in the Mini.
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If the Mini was still setting itself up, there would be all kinds of crap going on in the background that could skew the results.
And I'd much rather see a graph of an hours-long repetition of the benchmark run on a Mini that has settled in after the initial setup process is over and everything is synced and configured and all that stuff.
I have no doubt that it'll be quite fast in short bursts, but the 8th gen CPUs run notoriously hot and I'd be very curious to see how these things do under a sustained load.
And I'd much rather see a graph of an hours-long repetition of the benchmark run on a Mini that has settled in after the initial setup process is over and everything is synced and configured and all that stuff.
I have no doubt that it'll be quite fast in short bursts, but the 8th gen CPUs run notoriously hot and I'd be very curious to see how these things do under a sustained load.
Nothing has really changed - the Mini is yet again the makings of a pretty good server (or an entire farm), but not a particularly good computer for normal people. It's just way too expensive for anything else. Once you add an eGPU you probably should just buy an iMac.
I bet the colocators are loving these numbers though...
I bet the colocators are loving these numbers though...
What are colocators? And what kind of use cases are you thinking would and wouldn't need that eGPU?
In other words, it performs almost identically to PCs with a similar processor. Magical.
https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/2063
https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/2063
People who like/want the mini most definitely don’t want an all-in-one—that’s the whole point of the mini. It’s not about price.
Speaking of price, the current $799 base is about the same price as the previous mini at a similar config. Those who bemoan the loss of the 1.6GHz dual-core/4 GB RAM/HDD/Fusion drives that made $499-699 possible would be moaning even louder if they actually bought and tried to use those cheaper configs (for most purposes). Those older cheap configs had limited usefulness.
No, it would make the worst type of server. Where are the resilient PSUs, fans, NICs, hot swap options, remote management and monitoring tools, etc., etc., etc. ?
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Yes and do you know why? Do you want me to share that secret with you? But I'll have to whisper, so that others don't hear? You alright with that? OK.
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OK, that is enough..
Are you ready? OK, here we go:
**because Mac Mini uses exactly that same processor**
I see a lot of people talking about how expensive and underpowered the base level Mini is, but yesterday I went to the MicroCenter website and started putting stuff in the cart to more or less replicate the Mini.
So, an i3 w/ a decent (quiet) cooler for it, a mini-ITX motherboard (only 1 Thunderbolt port), some RAM, an SSD (much slower than the Mini's, probably), case (bulkier than Mini), PSU, all that stuff. Not top of the line stuff, just what I considered good quality at good prices. My cart ended up totaling around $600 after taxes.
By the time you add in the time I'd spend building it, plus more intangible but still valuable things like the Mini's industrial design, macOS without any Hackintosh hackery, Apple's support system, and the 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports that I simply couldn't replicate with a PC build, the base asking price starts looking pretty fair to me.
Anyway, that helped me get some perspective. If the new Minis turn out to be solid, with no thermal throttling issues or anything like that, I'm thinking maybe ... just have to wait for the reviews and the first batch of folks to get their machines unboxed and tested out.
So, an i3 w/ a decent (quiet) cooler for it, a mini-ITX motherboard (only 1 Thunderbolt port), some RAM, an SSD (much slower than the Mini's, probably), case (bulkier than Mini), PSU, all that stuff. Not top of the line stuff, just what I considered good quality at good prices. My cart ended up totaling around $600 after taxes.
By the time you add in the time I'd spend building it, plus more intangible but still valuable things like the Mini's industrial design, macOS without any Hackintosh hackery, Apple's support system, and the 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports that I simply couldn't replicate with a PC build, the base asking price starts looking pretty fair to me.
Anyway, that helped me get some perspective. If the new Minis turn out to be solid, with no thermal throttling issues or anything like that, I'm thinking maybe ... just have to wait for the reviews and the first batch of folks to get their machines unboxed and tested out.
The mini was in the freezer for the second test.
Um....I know. That was my point. These cost a minimum $200 more for a similarly configured PC. Another Apple-specific site tried to make the claim that there was something special about the processors Apple uses in these. Clearly, that's not the case.
No need to be a condescending ass.
Take a look at the ASUS VivoMini. They can be configured with a PCIe 512GB SSD, 8 GB RAM and an i3 for under $500.
https://smile.amazon.com/UN65U-M023...ements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin:2289794011
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No, that's good for a $500 computer.
https://smile.amazon.com/UN65U-M023...ements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin:2289794011
Maybe you could back that up. if you look on Intel, the likely base model chip is the i3-8100 quad core. Geekbench scores are 15000-16000, that is pretty good for a $799 computer. Doesn't sound like a joke at all. Of course, I'm guessing, but that is the only 3.6 ghz quad core i3 listed.
And 10X faster ethernet if you get the 10 Gbit option for +$100. That's something I'm looking forward to.
For some users and use cases I'm sure that would be a great system, but I will happily pay the extra $ to get macOS, Apple's support infrastructure and industrial design, etc.
maybe, but pretty much in line with the Dell with a 2 core i3
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If you look on intel, the 3.6 quad core i3 is the 8100, which consistently get 15000-16000 on Geekbench
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Good question (except for the disparagement), My old 2012 Mac mini server didn't noticeably throttle, the fans would kick on, but were very quiet. intel has lowered tdp (the upper chips are 65 w) dramatically and the thermal system has been redesigned, so I would bet there is not much noise and not much throttling. In fact, one writer was complaining about no 8-core option, but the 8-core just released by Intel, are 95 w chips, they might be too hot for the design.