First Microsoft Web Ads Attacking Macs Value.

[IrishSniper87]

I'm confused, why don't they include 3-5 years of antivirus subscriptions on the PC side?

Because if you pay for antivirus, you are a moron.

All that stuff can be done for free if you have even the faintest idea of hot to use Google.

 

[Melrose]

TV Ad


No, Lauren, you're not cool enough. 🙄

LOL. Lauren is a dog.

...I don't want her to own an Apple anyway. Then we might have something in common.

Nick: 🙂

 

[iOrlando]

i actually like some of the stuff offered with the macbook and not the pc...

i dont need "600 diapers" or "365 lattes" or "a zune"

I could use a twig, dirt, rock, especially q-tips.

 

[dejo]

I'm amused by how the banner ad shows 365 lattes but then the linked-to page with the pricing details shows the price for 343 lattes. What happened to the other 22 lattes? 😕

 

[ZachsMacDaddy]

I think they need to add "a clue" to the Windows side.

The new TV ad is interesting too. Will they show the woman BACK in best buy 1 year later buying another flimsy plastic Windows laptop?

 

[neiltc13]

I'm confused, why don't they include 3-5 years of antivirus subscriptions on the PC side?

Because you don't need it. You have to be foolish to get a virus on Windows.

 

[Melrose]

I'm amused by how the banner ad shows 365 lattes but then the linked-to page with the pricing details shows the price for 343 lattes. What happened to the other 22 lattes? 😕

Well we know they aren't Starbucks lattes. Still, even if they were, I'd stick with my Mac.

 

[Consultant]

See below for some spec comparison. Not including the intangibles such as

Mac
OSX, good os design
Easy multi-boot with external drive boot
Optimized for multi tasking

vs

PC
Virus
Idiot pop ups
Hidden snail Function

Why your next PC should be a Mac.
http://www.apple.com/getamac/

 

[Demosthenes X]

Because you don't need it. You have to be foolish to get a virus on Windows.

Easy for someone who spends their free time on an internet forum to say. Many, many people are not particularly familiar with computers, nor care to be.

 

[neiltc13]

OSX, good os design

You mean, the same OS that wastes the entire bottom right and left corners of the screen?

Optimized for multi tasking

Just like Windows then. Except, you can't easily see what windows are open because the dock only lists what applications are open. Doh.

Virus

Only if you're stupid enough to install a virus. The same can happen on a Mac.

Idiot pop ups

Not sure what you mean by this, but I can tell you that Windows does a much better job of letting its users know what their machine is doing.

Hidden snail Function

You mean, when the spinning beach ball appears and the application locks up? Yeah, I hate that!

 

[Radio Monk33]

Easy for someone who spends their free time on an internet forum to say. Many, many people are not particularly familiar with computers, nor care to be.

You're right, clearly Macs are better for those that can't figure out how to use computers very well. 😱

 

[iOrlando]

i heard steve is thinking of letting Justin Long out of the dungeon underneath the apple employee cafe in cupertino to do a few more commercials.

 

[Consultant]

You mean, the same OS that wastes the entire bottom right and left corners of the screen?



Just like Windows then. Except, you can't easily see what windows are open because the dock only lists what applications are open. Doh.

Only if you're stupid enough to install a virus. The same can happen on a Mac.

Not sure what you mean by this, but I can tell you that Windows does a much better job of letting its users know what their machine is doing.

You mean, when the spinning beach ball appears and the application locks up? Yeah, I hate that!

Re: multi tasking
Open 100 5mb JPEG in windows. Try to switch between that and Office, Excel, etc. Good luck.

You don't Install a virus. You are thinking of a trojan.
However virus and worms are self replication and do not require user installation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_worm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
OSX has no virus or worms

FYI, cost of virus, due to people running windows.
http://www.crn.com/it-channel/18816957

I don't get the spinning beach ball. Someone must be doing something wrong. 🙄

 

[Perrumpo]

You mean, the same OS that wastes the entire bottom right and left corners of the screen?

Just like Windows then. Except, you can't easily see what windows are open because the dock only lists what applications are open. Doh.

hahah... I don't want to be arguing with you in two threads, but... since when????

PS - perhaps you're on the wrong site to be defending PCs so passionately, yeah?

 

[neiltc13]

Re: multi tasking
Open 100 5mb JPEG in windows. Try to switch between that and Office, Excel, etc. Good luck.

You don't Install a virus. You are thinking of a trojan.
However virus and worms are self replication and do not require user installation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_worm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
OSX has no virus or worms

FYI, cost of virus, due to people running windows.
http://www.crn.com/it-channel/18816957

I don't get the spinning beach ball. Someone must be doing something wrong. 🙄

Again, if you've got a virus you did something wrong. I have run Windows machines successfully for many years with no antivirus software whatsoever. They are connected to the internet and guess what? No viruses.

If you don't get the spinning beach ball then you mustn't be a user of iTunes or iPhoto. Those programs are the worst for it.

I'm just wondering when you last used Windows. There was a time when it was terrible but Microsoft has really improved XP and Vista, and it looks like Windows 7 is going to be even better. They are rock solid.

hahah... I don't want to be arguing with you in two threads, but... since when????

PS - perhaps you're on the wrong site to be defending PCs so passionately, yeah?

Since when what? Look at your dock - it doesn't list what windows are open, it just has an icon and an indicator showing what program is open. Compare that to the Windows task bar, which shows exactly what windows are open as well as what programs are open. For example, if you have two web browser windows open, on Windows you can see them both without clicking anything. On OS X you simply can't.

I don't believe either to be superior. I just don't like seeing people attacking Microsoft when they are doing exactly what Apple did in the past with their ridiculous "Get a Mac" ads.

 

[Perrumpo]

Since when what? Look at your dock - it doesn't list what windows are open, it just has an icon and an indicator showing what program is open. Compare that to the Windows task bar, which shows exactly what windows are open as well as what programs are open. For example, if you have two web browser windows open, on Windows you can see them both without clicking anything. On OS X you simply can't.

Firstly, exposé allows you to see all of your windows instantly, not just tabs at the bottom of the screen. It's quicker, too, when switching windows. Secondly, it's a waste of space, imo, to have all of your windows listed at the bottom. Thirdly, as for your browser example, that's what tabs in browsers are for. So, actually, you can see both windows.

As for the bottom corners being wasted, they certainly aren't wasted for me. Not only can your dock extend along the entire bottom, but I have a hot corner for all for corners. Bottom-left triggers Dashboard, Bottom-right triggers exposé (all windows).

 

[bailorg]

Because you don't need it. You have to be foolish to get a virus on Windows.

I'd say running Windows without any anti-virus software is akin to driving without auto insurance.

You probably could get away with it for an extended period of time, but one click/download too far, and you're in for a whole ton of hassle.

 

[charlesbronsen]

I'd say running Windows without any anti-virus software is akin to driving without auto insurance.

You probably could get away with it for an extended period of time, but one click/download too far, and you're in for a whole ton of hassle.

well some of us like to live on the edge😛

 

[Consultant]

You mean, the same OS that wastes the entire bottom right and left corners of the screen?

Why is MS making windows more like OSX then?

Someone obviousy don't have the observational capacity to see the differences between different OS. Here is something to get you started. Note the number of inconsistencies mentioned for windows usability.
http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2009/01/dock-and-windows-7-taskbar.ars

Again, if you've got a virus you did something wrong. I have run Windows machines successfully for many years with no antivirus software whatsoever. They are connected to the internet and guess what? No viruses.

If you don't get the spinning beach ball then you mustn't be a user of iTunes or iPhoto. Those programs are the worst for it.

I'm just wondering when you last used Windows. There was a time when it was terrible but Microsoft has really improved XP and Vista, and it looks like Windows 7 is going to be even better. They are rock solid.

Since when what? Look at your dock - it doesn't list what windows are open, it just has an icon and an indicator showing what program is open. Compare that to the Windows task bar, which shows exactly what windows are open as well as what programs are open. For example, if you have two web browser windows open, on Windows you can see them both without clicking anything. On OS X you simply can't.

I don't believe either to be superior. I just don't like seeing people attacking Microsoft when they are doing exactly what Apple did in the past with their ridiculous "Get a Mac" ads.

iTunes library > 300gb. No spinning wheel.

Here is what I use to hold my music.
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=11038
Yes, it's a harddrive that cost more than your precious PC.
Yes, some people can afford that because some people make money from their computer.

I use windows almost every day. Had to nuke vista machine this week.

As to items opened on task bar, you seems to never open a few things at once. Otherwise you would know that the taskbar gets crowded and become pretty useless when you have a number of things open.

Unix-based systems are architected so that they require administrator privileges to modify the OS and are traditionally more strict in enforcing them. Critical areas are walled off from normal users—you see this when OS X asks for a password to install updates or change a system setting. A standard non-admin user account is restricted; bad software can't wreak much havoc at all without that password.

This is precisely what Vista's somewhat-maligned User Account Control attempts to replicate, limiting points of intrusion and requiring explicit user permission to get anywhere deep. On Windows, historically, the enforcement of these restrictions has been lax in the name of convenience.

Giz Explains: Why OS X Shrugs Off Viruses Better Than Windows
http://i.gizmodo.com/5101337/giz-explains-why-os-x-shrugs-off-viruses-better-than-windows

Catching a virus or worm does not REQUIRE user "doing something wrong".
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/03/24/conficker.computer.worm/index.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7946574.stm
Actually it doesn't require user to do anything at all see below.

Older Conficker version:

Conficker propagates by exploiting the MS08-67 vulnerability in the Microsoft Windows server service. An anonymized packet-level summary of a typical Conficker exploit is shown in Figure 6. The remote attacking host begins by negotiating SMB (server message block) protocol and initiating an SMB session on port 445/TCP of the victim. The attacking host binds to the SRVSVC pipe and proceeds to issue the NetPathCanonicalize request, which has the exploit payload embedded. The embedded shell code coerces the victim host to contact the attacking host on a connect-back port and download a PE (portable executable) DLL file. The shell code also issues Windows API calls to ensure that the DLL is executed as a service...

Translation:
Infected computer look for other computers, and infects non-infected computers without user intervention.

 

[dubels]

Damn I wish I jumped on that. I would have used the 2000 to buy myself a new macbook.

 

[MattZani]

Well we know they aren't Starbucks lattes. Still, even if they were, I'd stick with my Mac.

Of Course they arent Starbucks Latte's, because you'd look SOOO out of place goint into Starbucks everyday with your Windows Based Laptop 😛

 

[tri3limited]

Since when what? Look at your dock - it doesn't list what windows are open, it just has an icon and an indicator showing what program is open. Compare that to the Windows task bar, which shows exactly what windows are open as well as what programs are open. For example, if you have two web browser windows open, on Windows you can see them both without clicking anything. On OS X you simply can't..

Why is Windows 7 copying the OS X approach to windows being docked into one icon if it's not a good idea??

I'd use Windows 10 fold more often if it simply had expose built-in not to mention better customer support... It's pretty naff at best.

 

[NT1440]

Because you don't need it. You have to be foolish to get a virus on Windows.

I like how you consider everyday people foolish. I've had countless calls from family members asking to fix computers (ive noticed the problems really seem to spike after getting high speed internet) for them. Your AVERAGE pc user is in fact more likely to get a virus.

It has nothing to do with being smart or dumb, most people (who arent tech geeks like all of us) really dont know a damn thing about computers.

 

[jodelli]

This thread may also interest you.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/675676/ doesn't seem to link. Is it missing a number?

 

[clyde2801]

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