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So does anyone have an idea of when the next iphone is coming out? i heard march but i don't know about that.

:apple:So does anyone have an idea?:apple:
 
I'm sure apple has something up there sleeves. I bet they'll introduce a quad-core iphone but no longer offer 3G, just edge, because apple has a knack for "just" giving us what we ask for. I could see it now....
 

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So does anyone have an idea of when the next iphone is coming out? i heard march but i don't know about that.

:apple:So does anyone have an idea?:apple:

I would guess June-July, just like the previous iPhones. I would think they want to catch the original iPhone owners as soon as their contracts are up.
 
How about pre-caching popular parts of the internet? Has potential, I'd say..

That's a bad idea where business creeps too far into engineering.

If you want a cache'd set up, then how about Servers provide cached tiers that business customers can subscribe to where they periodically refresh their content, leaving the phone subscriber to only fetch ``changes'' from their databases every so many hours, days or weeks.
 
HTC today announced their new mobile phones Touch Diamond 2 and HTC Touch Pro 2 in Barcelona (Mobile Communication Fair).

At the same time today Microsoft's Steve Balmer announced that Microsoft will be doing the very same thing. "We've been copying whatever anyone, and especially Apple, comes up with for decades and will continue to aggressively follow everyone making loud announcements of our intentions."

Balmore unveiled a new 8 core architecture with each core running one of the flavors of Vista. "Not only will we be able to run background tasks, but in case of a blue screen crash the other core will be able to keep running different internet tasks. We intend to make Ex-President Bush vision of 'the internets' a reality."

As usual after one of Steve Balmer's announcements, Microsoft's stock fell five points.
 
I'm sure apple has something up there sleeves. I bet they'll introduce a quad-core iphone but no longer offer 3G, just edge, because apple has a knack for "just" giving us what we ask for. I could see it now....

However long you spent on that pic was too long. :rolleyes:
 
I hear these A9 Cortex cores will be using a special instruction set optimized for the ifart. It's called the cortexfarter and should bring multifarting and switching between farts to a new level of speed. If these cores go into the iphone we are going to have ourselves not just a smart fart phone, but a premium ultra mobile fart powerhouse. :D

This gonna knock some people right off their feet!
 
Quad-Core iPhones - what next?!

A Mini DisplayPort to hook it update to a Cinema Display and replace your laptop or desktop. Of course 32Gb, 64Gb, or more RAM would be desired. You'd also need bluetooth for a mouse and keyboard hook-up.

Of course the high-end one would forego the DisplayPort and have a mini-projector built-in to sport a large high-res display on any wall.
 
A Mini DisplayPort to hook it update to a Cinema Display and replace your laptop or desktop. Of course 32Gb, 64Gb, or more RAM would be desired. You'd also need bluetooth for a mouse and keyboard hook-up.

Of course the high-end one would forego the DisplayPort and have a mini-projector built-in to sport a large high-res display on any wall.

This is true, and neither of those models will come with copy/paste or allow you to open, edit, save, send MS Office or iWork documents.
 
I'm sure apple has something up there sleeves. I bet they'll introduce a quad-core iphone but no longer offer 3G, just edge, because apple has a knack for "just" giving us what we ask for. I could see it now....


I wonder if they'll continue basing the names on new technologies in the phone. Maybe something to do with quad core?

Wouldn't be as good naming as 3G though since the advantages of having a quad core aren't as obvious to most people.
 
I think it is irresponsible for the author of this article to suggest the next iPhone could even possibly use an ARM Cortex-A9 based CPU, and particularly not to even mention the (single core only) ARM Cortex-A8, which is the direct successor to the ARM 11(iPhone), and which is already available in many system-on-a-chips from the likes of T.I. (OMAP3), Qualcomm, Samsung, etc. The Cortex-A9 is the successor of A8, and not only adds multi-core support, but the cores are an out-of-order processing evolution of the A8.

Anyways, my point is that it is very unlikely the very next iPhone will use a Cortex-A9 because they are not even sampling yet, and production system-on-a-chips utilizing the cores won't even be in production until Q2 2010. (See T.I. OMAP4).

It is MUCH MORE likely the next iPhone will use a chip with the ARM Cortex-A8 which though limited to single core, is twice as fast as an ARM11 at the same clock speed, and which run at between 600-1000+Mhz. This core is used in the T.I. OMAP3 series which is used in the new Palm Pre..
 
I think it is irresponsible for the author of this article to suggest the next iPhone could even possibly use an ARM Cortex-A9 based CPU, and particularly not to even mention the (single core only) ARM Cortex-A8, which is the direct successor to the ARM 11(iPhone), and which is already available in many system-on-a-chips from the likes of T.I. (OMAP3), Qualcomm, Samsung, etc. The Cortex-A9 is the successor of A8, and not only adds multi-core support, but the cores are an out-of-order processing evolution of the A8.

Anyways, my point is that it is very unlikely the very next iPhone will use a Cortex-A9 because they are not even sampling yet, and production system-on-a-chips utilizing the cores won't even be in production until Q2 2010. (See T.I. OMAP4).

It is MUCH MORE likely the next iPhone will use a chip with the ARM Cortex-A8 which though limited to single core, is twice as fast as an ARM11 at the same clock speed, and which run at between 600-1000+Mhz. This core is used in the T.I. OMAP3 series which is used in the new Palm Pre..

Got me lost on this.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9955815446.html?kc=rss

TI OMAP4 uses the same cpu core ARMv7 architecture as the others.

TI was an early adopter of ARM Ltd.'s earlier Cortex-A8 processor core, the first ARM core to use the superscalar (more than one instruction per cycle) ARMv7 architecture. Now, as TI's competitors are beginning to sample ARMv7-based SoCs of their own, TI has unveiled its dual-core OMAP4 roadmap.

At the heart of OMAP4 is ARM Ltd's Cortex A9 dual-core processor. Implementing the same ARMv7 used on ARM's Cortex A8, the A9 adds ARM's MPCore interconnect layer, for support of up to four cores. However, the initial OMAP4 chips will incorporate only two ARM cores, clocked "above 1GHz," TI said.

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The first OMAP4 chips will be the OMAP4430 and OMAP4440, TI revealed. Available only to high-volume wireless device companies, the initial OMAP4 chips target devices that "redefine the boundaries of Smartphones and MIDs," stated Greg Delagi, head of TI's Wireless business.

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TI touted the following additional features for its initial OMAP44x SoCs:

    * Built in 45nm process technology
    * 12 mm x 12 mm x 0.4 mm POP (package-on-package)
    * POWERVR SGX540 graphics engine
    * 3D UI support
    * Resolutions up to WSXGA (1680x1050)
    * HDMI compatible
    * 10+ hours of 1080p HD video playback
    * 4+ hours of 1080p HD record
    * 140+ hours of CD quality audio playback
    * "Pre-integrated" with TI's various wireless radios, including WiLink Wi-Fi, NaviLink GPS, and BlueLink Bluetooth
    * "Pre-validated" modem interface software for "any" external modem
    * Support new TWL6030 and TWL6040 PMICs (power management ICs)
    * Supports Pico projection technology
    * Third-party tools and kits, such as Zoom OMAP mobile development platforms

But you are correct that 3rd iPhone if released in 2009 - at any time will NOT have it.

TI plans to sample the OMAP4430 and OMAP4440, along with development tools, in the second half of the year. Volume production is slated for the second half of 2010. The products will not be available through distributors, and are instead intended for "high-volume wireless OEMs and ODMs," TI said (although the company followed up its high-volume OMAP34xx parts with a low-volume OMAP35xx family that seems to have proven popular, so we might expect a similar pattern with OMAP4). Pricing was not disclosed.
 
It's possible now. Apple just has to decide people need the feature, just like copy/paste.


i know. :) i was just being sarcastic.

everyone i know uses MMS and so it frustrates me when i get those stupid viewmymessage.com texts. ESPECIALLY when the site says it can't retrieve the image. so stupid...
 
i know. :) i was just being sarcastic.

everyone i know uses MMS and so it frustrates me when i get those stupid viewmymessage.com texts. ESPECIALLY when the site says it can't retrieve the image. so stupid...

Without the proper emoticons, I'm forced to assume ignorance based on the majority of questions that come out about apple hardware :p
 
Got me lost on this.

Not sure what you want to know. Everything I said in that post is correct.

The recent ARM CPU core family goes like this: (DSPs, graphics chips, video decoding, etc are taken care of by the SoC manufacturer, and are independent of the ARM core)

  • ARM11 (ARMv6 instruction set)
    - single or multi-core, in-order processing
    - used in iPhone and most other cellphones
  • ARM Cortex-A8 (ARMv7 instruction set) (approx 1.5-2x faster than ARM11)
    - single core only, in-order processing
    - Palm Pre, New gen of Nokia internet tablets and eventually most future high-end smartphones
  • ARM Cortex-A9 (ARMv7 instruction set) (approx 3-4x faster than ARM11)
    - single or multi-core, out-of-order processing
    - production-ready system-on-a-chips available sometime in 2010
 
As I mentioned earlier, I don't think Apple will be going for multiple ARM cores anytime soon, but more likely designing something like the new chip from freescale.

It has 5 cores, but only 1 multipurpose, the others run DSP, 2D graphics, 3D graphics and video decoding. Each core can be powered down independently allowing for very low power usage.
 
Not sure what you want to know. Everything I said in that post is correct.

The recent ARM CPU core family goes like this: (DSPs, graphics chips, video decoding, etc are taken care of by the SoC manufacturer, and are independent of the ARM core)

  • ARM11 (ARMv6 instruction set)
    - single or multi-core, in-order processing
    - used in iPhone and most other cellphones
  • ARM Cortex-A8 (ARMv7 instruction set) (approx 1.5-2x faster than ARM11)
    - single core only, in-order processing
    - Palm Pre, New gen of Nokia internet tablets and eventually most future high-end smartphones
  • ARM Cortex-A9 (ARMv7 instruction set) (approx 3-4x faster than ARM11)
    - single or multi-core, out-of-order processing
    - production-ready system-on-a-chips available sometime in 2010

I've also seen confusion about threading. All of these cores, even the cortex A9, are single-threaded cores.
 
The beautiful thing about the iPhone is that, at $200, how can you NOT upgrade every two years? Also, why DISPOSE of your outdated iPhone,... it's still be better than the iPod touch -- use it as such or give it to a family member.

If it was your $200 I was spending, I would gladly spend that money for an upgrade.:D Heck, I'll do it everyday. Paying $600 (less rebate) for an Ipod Touch would be a bit much I think. My wife got an iPhone too and daughter is 12 y.o. I don't want her to have an expensive phone/toy without working for it. A family value that I want to instill on her. She does have a no frill, free regular phone. As I've said, this is the logical step to upgrade specs for iPhone and actually voted positive. I was just voicing out my concern regarding possible NEW softwares not running on a still perfectly running 2 year old phone.

Free?! You DO realize that AT&T pays Apple about $400 for every phone sold for a mere $200. You're getting a very expensive piece of kit for about $8 a month over the course of 2yrs,... hardly something to be looking a gift horse in the mouth, I say. I would imagine that, in a couple of years when AT&T's 5 year exclusive contract runs out and Apple can sell to everyone that you'll get your wish and the carriers will eat the whole amount. Until then, I think $8/mo. is worth the upgrading.

Of course, with a screenname like Free loader,…

LOL you did get me with my screen name. But I do have to disagree with you regarding AT&T as if I owe them anything. The horse is paid for and with profit. As soon as they start giving out subsidized/free phones and stop giving me my monthly bills, I assure and promise you that I would send them a thank-you note. :D
 
I hate to reign on the parade for all you apple fanboys, but in terms of mutli-core platforms the Cowon S9 is the first.

Aw....that means apple wont be able to say it pioneered or 'revolutionized' whatever it is they'll be planning on spinning around in their future ad campaigns.
 
I hate to reign on the parade for all you apple fanboys, but in terms of mutli-core platforms the Cowon S9 is the first.

Aw....that means apple wont be able to say it pioneered or 'revolutionized' whatever it is they'll be planning on spinning around in their future ad campaigns.

Your majesty, there is one major design flaw. It looks like you can only use this device to call with one another if within shouting distance range. Unfortunately, this is too short for me.:(
 
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