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We can argue about Samsung's plastic screen and refute reviewers ad nauseam. But if not anything, the reviews seem to imply that while the Samsung is a great phone, it is not the final nail in Apple's coffin that people were hyping it up to be.
 
Is it so hard to raise the bar in manufacturing, strip the gimmicky "features" and only include the ones that make at least some sense, fit a screen that doesn’t require both hands to be used and rework TouchWiz - or better yet, ditch it altogether?

From the specs of the internals, this seems like it could have been a great Android device but there’s just too many drawbacks for me but Samsung does a great job at advertising their phones, so this thing will sell in the millions.

The phone is not the issue for me. Still wouldn't mind more options when it comes to screen size for the iPhone. We wil have to see what is in the pipeline for Apple this year.
 
the verge was portrayed as the one site with the most favorable review but in fact their video review they basically said the phone was boring, poorly made and that gimmicks where useless and annoying
 
I didn't realize these phones were such crap... what do fandroids see in them?

If Apple does the fingerprint scanner right, they could smoke the S4 with the 5S.

I'm imagining right now... what if you never needed to carry a key with your or enter a password or anything, because all you had to do is touch your iPhone and it would unlock whatever is yours in front of you... be it a website needing login, your phone itself, your car, your house, etc... that'd be pretty sweet.


Who are these paid shills you speak of? And what makes the S4 a "pathetic" device?

The fact it's made out of cheap plastic and that most of the new features added since the S3 are entirely worthless? Did you read these reviews and get something else out of them?
 
I haven't read all the reviews - just the summation on MR (so far). Tell me - is it an accurate headline that many of the reviews comment on the features being gimmicky and/or "bad plastic design"

Or is that an MR editorial comment? I only read one comment in their article that spoke to the build. Curious...

Well it is MR what do you expect? lol BGR who is a huge apple fanboy even loved the phone and said it felt better in hand build wise than the s3 and that is saying something coming from the guy who bashes everything non apple http://bgr.com/2013/04/24/samsung-g...9/?utm_source=trending-widget&utm_medium=home
 
the verge was portrayed as the one site with the most favorable review but in fact their video review they basically said the phone was boring, poorly made and that gimmicks where useless and annoying

agreed. they also said the screen was ”eye catching" particularly because reds and oranges are so overly saturated and unnatural in their color reproduction. perhaps burning your retinas with fake blown-out colors is a feature to these guys?

kinda like when you go to Best Buy and all the TVs are tweaked to the max so as to compete with the other models on the sales floor, except with a cell phone you have to take it home and live with it for the next two years.

the iPhone and iPad display have nearly 100% accurate color gamut, so they can keep their cartoon AMOLED crap, no thanks.
 
If Apple's resistance to a larger screen has truly been that the quality isn't good enough, well, that's not really the case now.

So, if people truly want a larger screen (seems like many do), why not make it available. You could have two options (might be good to make the ratio the same, though, for scaling).

I have an iPhone 5 and I'm fine with the size, but I don't understand the excuses for not making a larger option available as well.

Apples resistance to a larger screen has had nothing to do with the quality of the screen itself, it has more to do with the user experience. I think Apple's launch commercial for iPhone 5 sums up their position. A phone is a portable device. Making the screen larger for larges sake makes it less portable, less comfortable to hold, and harder to navigate the screen using your thumb.

Now, whether or not that bothers customers is a different story. I'd personally love to see a larger iPhone as an option, just so Apple has all their bases covered and the press can stop making such a big deal of larger displays being "innovation" and Apple lagging behind. If Apple wanted to, they could make the most beautiful large display (iPad retina display), but they clearly don't WANT to.

Making the display larger actually makes it easier engineering wise, because now you have all this extra space inside the enclosure and don't have to focus as hard as Apple does making components smaller while trying to fit a large battery inside.
 

I would have no doubt that many companies engage in this activity to some degree. My question was directed at a specific individual who no doubt suspects specific members here as being paid shills. Which is why I asked my question.

Most of the time people (on here) are "implied" as shills is because they simply speak positively about a competitor and/or refute FUD. That doesn't make one a shill. Nor a paid one.
 
Who are these paid shills you speak of? And what makes the S4 a "pathetic" device?

Someone made a post down in the Apple and Industry news forum about how Samsung is paying kids to hop onto messageboards to praise everything they do and bash the competition.

...so expect the shill accusations to increase over the next few.

Edit: Well...okay. You already know. I love it when I'm 15 minutes late to the party. :p
 
Someone made a post down in the Apple and Industry news forum about how Samsung is paying kids to hop onto messageboards to praise everything they do and bash the competition.

...so expect the shill accusations to increase over the next few.

Edit: Well...okay. You already know. I love it when I'm 15 minutes late to the party. :p

No doubt that article will get linked every single time someone says something positive (or remotely positive) about Samsung too!
 
I never get the hate for plastic.

Blame Apple for that, in 2010 they taught us that a premium high end phone should be made of glass or aluminum.

And in my opinion if the cheaper iPhone rumor is true, Apple can do what Nokia and HTC have been doing for years: High end models: Metal / Glass, mid-range: Plastic.
 
Wait let me look, nope. Thought I was on Samsung rumors.

So we need to have these articles to feel good about having an iphone? I don't see any other reason on a mac site.
 
The GS4 is not really a major upgrade over the GS3. If you are looking for a bigger screen and better build quality, I would go with the HTC One.
 
"we noticed the phone acting a little sluggish even in the most basic of tasks."

No surprise here. iPhone has been solid from the start in 2007. I have had an iPhone since it's debut and it was the iPhone that paved the way for my transition to the Apple ecosystem. "It just works!"
 
It seems its basically the s3s, and thats fine really. The s3 was a good phone and extremely popular.

If I were to go android id be all over the gorgeous Sony experia Z tho.
 
It's good it has a big screen for when your eyeballs will hurt from scrolling.
 
We can argue about Samsung's plastic screen and refute reviewers ad nauseam. But if not anything, the reviews seem to imply that while the Samsung is a great phone, it is not the final nail in Apple's coffin that people were hyping it up to be.

I'm not sure which people were claiming that. Everyone has a different idea of what they expect their phone to be like so I can't see any phone manufacturer eliminating their competition.
 
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