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First Unboxing Video of 3rd Generation Retina iPad

tbrinkma said:
If you want 'more real-estate', you want a larger screen along with a higher pixel-count.
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Uh ? No, I just want a higher pixel-count. Larger screens don't give any extra real-estate. 13" 1440x900 is the same real-estate as 15" 1440x900.

It's like I said, give me more usable pixels, not more sharpness. All Mac laptops have **** low PPI already.
 
tbrinkma said:
Too true. Heck, a number of power users are served perfectly well by an iPad with a SSH-capable terminal app as their main system, because their primary job involves maintaining servers.
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I wouldn't use an iPad with an ssh client to manage server. Typing out commands is best done on a physical keyboard.
 
these guys are zooming in on the box and not that gorgeous displays, talk about a wasted opportunity on these bozos. Just show us the great display to admire.
 
MythicFrost said:
Yes, I'm aware of that. My point is though, everything is going to quadruple in size -- particularly graphics in games.
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It's mostly textures that will give issues there, but they didn't have the full 512 to play with before. The OS will use nearly the exact same amount of memory regardless of the screen resolution. (Only the screen buffers will change, and that's not terribly significant. If you actually have 50% of system RAM available to an app on the iPad 2, you'll have 3x the available ram for the same app on the new iPad. So, yes, there might be some extreme cases where the additional RAM isn't 'enough', but they're not going to be common. (Especially since you didn't have 50% of iPad 2 system RAM available *just for textures* in the first place.)

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Yvan256 said:
I'm still wondering what the logic is behind called it "The New iPad". What is it going to be next year? "The New New iPad" or "The newer iPad"?

In my opinion they should have gone with "iPad 3" or "iPad 2012".

Edit: wow, disagree with something Apple does and you get a negative rating on your post. :rolleyes:
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It's not "The New iPad", it's the new "iPad". The only confusing bit is going to be that between this year and next the naming conventions will go:
This Year
iPad (the old, old iPad, newly discontinued)
iPad 2 (the old iPad, now just a base model)
iPad (the new iPad)

Next Year
iPad 2 (the old, old iPad, newly discontinued)
iPad (the old iPad, now just a base model)
iPad (the new iPad)

Beyond that, it'll be just like the MacBook [Pro|Air], iMac, Mac mini, and Mac Pro:
iPad (the old, old iPad, newly discontinued)
iPad (the old iPad, now just a base model)
iPad (the new iPad)
 
tbrinkma said:
It's mostly textures that will give issues there, but they didn't have the full 512 to play with before. The OS will use nearly the exact same amount of memory regardless of the screen resolution. (Only the screen buffers will change, and that's not terribly significant. If you actually have 50% of system RAM available to an app on the iPad 2, you'll have 3x the available ram for the same app on the new iPad. So, yes, there might be some extreme cases where the additional RAM isn't 'enough', but they're not going to be common. (Especially since you didn't have 50% of iPad 2 system RAM available *just for textures* in the first place.)
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Thanks for the info, I definitely think 1GB will be enough for the iPad. I suspected we'd end off having more available for most tasks despite the higher resolution.

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KnightWRX said:
Depends on how low details you can go in your original sized texture before the mip-mapping gets ugly at lower or higher zoom levels.
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Ah, right. Thanks.
 
KnightWRX said:
Uh ? No, I just want a higher pixel-count. Larger screens don't give any extra real-estate. 13" 1440x900 is the same real-estate as 15" 1440x900.

It's like I said, give me more usable pixels, not more sharpness. All Mac laptops have **** low PPI already.
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You want the same size screen with more pixels, but not more sharpness? I'm not sure how you expect to get that, since pixel density is directly related to display sharpness, and 'retina display' simply refers to crossing the threshold where, at a typical viewing distance, you don't get any more benefit to increasing pixel densities.

Of course, that was all covered by the rest of my post, which you oddly didn't bother to quote when you were telling me I was wrong.
 
tbrinkma said:
You want the same size screen with more pixels, but not more sharpness? I'm not sure how you expect to get that, since pixel density is directly related to display sharpness, and 'retina display' simply refers to crossing the threshold where, at a typical viewing distance, you don't get any more benefit to increasing pixel densities.

Of course, that was all covered by the rest of my post, which you oddly didn't bother to quote when you were telling me I was wrong.
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Retina means HiDPI mode if you will. Things take up the same amount of space on screen, but use more pixels in order to so, reducing "jagged edge" effects. The rest of your post just doesn't understand what were talking about, hence why it was cut.

13" 1440x900 vs 13" 2880x1800 HiDPI gives you the same real-estate. I'm saying I don't care about the extra sharpness HiDPI mode gives, just give me the extra real-estate as usable pixels instead. 13" 1920x1200 if you will with no HiDPI crap.

That is what I mean by "I don't want more sharpness, I want more real-estate".
 
Adidas Addict said:
Sounds very like Thai to me, not aggressive at all to my ear.
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FYI, it's a mixture of Thai, Khmer and Chinese since most of words were borrowed by Chinese. Vietnamese characters used to write like Chinese characters in 13th century before the French of France came and...
 
DreamPod said:
You do not know how graphics programming works; it's more than just a screen buffer. I'm working on a game, has 64MB of textures in memory at one point (and that includes a number of textures that are compressed to take up less memory, storing 4-bits per pixel instead of 32 or 16). On the iPad 3, we'd need 256MB for the same screen-space. That's a huge jump, and that's just currently-loaded graphics. Now imagine you preloaded the next level so you could have a neat transition effect between the two levels (instead of fading the entire screen to black, loading the next level, and fading back), now you need 512MB of Ram instead of 128, just for graphics.

Sure, apps aren't going to need quite 4 times the Ram, but most apps will want more than double what they use on iPad 2, and when added to the fact that the GPU is only twice as fast for 4 times the pixels, you're going to see performance drops on the new machine if developers take full advantage of that screen.
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Then you'd better optimize your game so it doesn't become a memory hog. One thing is active graphics and another one is cached graphics; if you abuse it, you'll run out of it.
I would bet if the iPad came with 2GB RAM that you and every other developer would be tempted to use it all anyways.
But as I always say: "The more the merrier" :D

I would love to test your app on my iPad 3. Need any testers yet?
 
WhoAmI2 said:
You make the assumption that most people are idiots (which they are) but I figure if they get hosed that's on them (and their stuidity in getting hosed is a good life lesson). The image on the 3 is also backwards when compared to the 2.
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it's not backwards, the box is upside-down in one. look where the volume control is.

on a side note, i got my tracking numbers yesterday and mine's coming on the 16th, so no early unboxing for me. :(
 
ngochuy107 said:
That's stereotype:(. Actually, Southern Vietnamese sounds a lot cuter than Northern Vietnamese. The guy in the unboxing video has 85% of Northern accent and 15% of Southern accent.
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I have heard many vietnamese people speak, this is not a stereotype..its just the truth.
I wasn't being offensive, just making an observation.
i was raised by a vietnamese lady when i was very young..no hate here..haha
 
I wonder when this whole "show a video of me unboxing a new apple product" trend will finally peter out.
And when it does, we'll look back at these days and think how lame it was that everyone was posting 'unboxing' videos and we thought that was anything but totally stupid.

Really.
 
KnightWRX said:
I wouldn't use an iPad with an ssh client to manage server. Typing out commands is best done on a physical keyboard.
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i love typing on the iPad better than my keyboard, i'm odd in that it seems. i wonder if you could make a programming keyboard app to give you all the proper characters you'd need. i'm a hunt a peck typer so sometimes when i'm typing fast i don't peck hard enough on my physical keyboard.
 
Has no one noticed the support coverage end date yet? 03/07/13. So it was activated already on the day Cook presented it. Guess they took it directly from the presentation table. :D
 
tbrinkma said:
It's not "The New iPad", it's the new "iPad". The only confusing bit is going to be that between this year and next the naming conventions will go:
This Year
iPad (the old, old iPad, newly discontinued)
iPad 2 (the old iPad, now just a base model)
iPad (the new iPad)

Next Year
iPad 2 (the old, old iPad, newly discontinued)
iPad (the old iPad, now just a base model)
iPad (the new iPad)

Beyond that, it'll be just like the MacBook [Pro|Air], iMac, Mac mini, and Mac Pro:
iPad (the old, old iPad, newly discontinued)
iPad (the old iPad, now just a base model)
iPad (the new iPad)
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Yeah it is confusing. I am sure there are a number of people who won't understand that the iPad 2 is lessor then just an iPad now. But it makes sense to go with this naming convention for a couple of reasons.

1) They already essentially do that with their computer products. You don't see things like a Macbook 5, a Mac Mini 3 or an iMac 6. It's merely a Macbook, iMac or Mac Mini. If further clarification is needed (like a tech support document) then references are made to the time period it was released (early 2012 for instance).

2) This frees up things from a calendar perspective. If they want to bump up the specs around the holidays or make a competitive change mid-year, they can. It's just a bump in the specs like on a Macbook or iMac. Gives them more flexibility now.
 
The Settings app loads super fast. That's telling as to how the 1 GB of RAM is going to help with all the little delays (not that delays were a big issue on the iPad 2, but nevertheless it will be a big improvement in that area).
 
hefeglass said:
Vietnamese is the EXACT OPPOSITE of a romance language..



thats one strange yet aggressive sounding language..!
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Doesn't it sounds like a bunch of ducks quacking rapidly?

I'm Chinese but I was born in Vietnam. I used to speak it fluently as a kid, but after almost 20 years of not using it at all, I can only understand bits and pieces.
 
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