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'Flexgate': 2016 and Newer MacBook Pro Users Report Display Issues Due to Fragile Flex Cables
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Surprising to see you attacking anyone who sees fault with an Apple product ... oh wait ... no ... that's someone else I was thinking of.
I think that’s the job Timmy and Ive are doing all day when they get bored of counting money. What else should they do, there is hardly coming any hardware from Apple.
The problem is that other companies continue to imitate Apple, even their mistakes. That's because Apple has been so successful and has such a (at least up to recently) loyal customer base, the other companies just assume Apple decisions must be all for the good. So Apple goes thin, Apple drops the phone jack, Apple doesn't incorporate user removable batteries, Apple drops ports on laptops, etc., and others start doing the same (thankfully, not all of them). It's a real irritant.
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why not both?
is the relentless persuit of "thin" bad? I don't think so. I would love to have a laptop that's the thickness of the MacBook, but the power of the highest end gaming desktop. I don't think this desire is foolish at all.
What IS foolish is attempting to do it, when the technology isn't capable of doing it, but pushing forwards with it anyways. This is where the anecdotes of Steve Jobs makes a lot of people wish for a return to days when someone had the power to tell the designers and engineers "Get the **** out of my office and fix it". Tim Cook, while a fantatic "bean counter", doesn't seem to have this power over the company. He doesn't seem to be able to tell the Designers "This isn't working, stop and be reasonable". This is how you wind up with a "pro" laptop, that has such poor thermals that it runs slower than cheaper laptops in it's own product line.
is it possible that future tech might be able to provide those super thin devices at highest end performance? maybe? as we have seen better and more power go into smaller form factors as miniaturization matures. The problem is, until the design spec meats what's actually possible, these types of things are going to keep happening with Apple.
At the same time as above, trying to do things that aren't technologically probable right now, they are also trying to do it at the cheapest possible cost to themselves as possible. cutting costs and corners, in order to maximize the profitability of every single unit sold, instead of ensuring that the units are built to quality standards they were once known for.
it's this combination of cost cutting cheapness, and designing themselves into corners that technology can't provide that has led us here. Laptops and computers that are prone to failure. Further exasperated by price points that should NOT be making these compromises.
you expect these sort of failures in < 5 year old computers from computers that cost 599 (or other dirt cheap windows laptops). Not $2000+ Apple computers.
I just had my 2016 13” MacBook Pro display assembly replaced because of gfx gitches a few days ago.
When the apple store opened the MacBook the display flex cable was kinked.
I had it fixed free as it is still within Australian Consumer Law.
When the apple store opened the MacBook the display flex cable was kinked.
I had it fixed free as it is still within Australian Consumer Law.
Totally agree, what also sad is that you have AppleCare and AppleCare+. Three years total warranty most manufacturers give you in Europe. Apple is only giving one year. Tells me they don’t trust their own products.
Me too! I bought a very similar iMac in 2017, and like you, it may be my last if Apple continues with its recent hardware issues.This is why I recently bought a 27-inch 2017 iMac and maxed out the ssd and ram myself. I came to the thinking that this may be the last great consumer level desktop apple makes before they go and **** that up as well.
And I thought electronics and computers became very reliable after 1980s. In the last 20+ years the only device that failed for me was a Sony TV set but this happened after 9 years of use. Ironically this was the only device for which I did buy extended warranty (5 years).
Learning to appreciate my older MBP more and more with each new problem exhibited in newer devices.
if I had to use my warranty to replace something broken on every single device I bought from a company, I would be looking fast at a new provider.
I'm not sure what you're doing is considered "sane" by the old addage "
Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results"
I think the fundamental problem is this:
At first, like back in the original MacBook Air days, most of us consumers were totally 'wowed' by thin devices. At one time, a device that was unusually thin was pretty cool to most of us, and therefore, we bought them in droves.
But as the years have worn on and the pursuit of thinness has become subject to the law of diminishing returns, few people are blown away by the next iPhone or laptop that's a 'little' bit thinner. UNFORTUNATELY, Apple still seems to be in the mindset that "thinness SELLS".
Almost NO one is impressed by a little more thinness in products anymore ... but Apple doesn't seem to have any other ideas ... so all they got it 'lets make this one thinner'.
It's tired, and it isn't working. And it's becoming bad for their product lines.
You didn't fix anything for me. You are making a rather obvious point that Apple has traded on thinness as a distinguishing factor in its designs and has charged a premium accordingly.
Has it worked in the short term? Maybe. Will it blow up in Apple's face if it loses its long-standing reputation for quality and drives away customers who've paid these premium prices? Most definitely.
Or maybe move on to other products. I don't understand the logic that says, "since the company is lowering the quality of their products I'm going to give them MORE of my money."
Or maybe move on to other products. I don't understand the logic that says, "since the company is lowering the quality of their products I'm going to give them MORE of my money."
Poor MrGimper has had hellfire rain on him for this post, but I think your response is the most succinct and painfully true one of them all.
I’ve been a Genius since 2016 and to date have seen zero of the reported symptoms described in this article. I’ve worked in three NYC stores & in Seattle while at Apple.
Obviously some people are having this issue, but if there was going to be a quality program I would’ve seen at least one of these. Not only have I not taken an appointment for this issue, but I’ve never seen any of my peers take one for this issue either.
Obviously some people are having this issue, but if there was going to be a quality program I would’ve seen at least one of these. Not only have I not taken an appointment for this issue, but I’ve never seen any of my peers take one for this issue either.
Apple needs to include a “Pro” warranty with their “Pro” MacBooks. Three years seems pretty common from other makes.
Give it time, my friend.
This is a long term wear and tear issue. You're not going to see a lot of this in the first couple years.
But years 4 and 5? Get back to us on how things are looking at that point.
Same thing with the 2011 MacBook Pro video card issue (for which apple eventually established an extended warranty for).
That didn't really start to bubble up to the surface big time until about 2015 or so.
Just saying, it’s often said by Apple that you have a 1 year guarantee. Which isn’t true in EU countries. You are covered for two years against faulty design, thanks to EU regulations. Of course, the UK right wing press don’t want to talk about good things that the EU does for us.
Yes you can. Because when you need to rely on your working tool, you would never switch to this awful keyboard, the annoying touchbar, the missing ports and now breaking display connections.
^^^ This! Why in the world don’t people use a laptop like they’re supposed to: Propped open and left on the desktop??? All these business people talking portable with them to meetings and on trips and everywhere they go, and those ridiculous students who insist on always closing the clamshell after each class in order to take their computers back to their dorms. Idiots, each and every one of them!
Anyone who buys these MacBooks second hand must be loco.
