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'Flexgate': 2016 and Newer MacBook Pro Users Report Display Issues Due to Fragile Flex Cables
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I made the decision not to further invest in Mac laptops after 2015, and after all that has transpired since then, don't regret my move to HP, Dell, and System76 laptops. I can't deal with Windows, so they all host Linux flavors. I miss the MBP of old, but not those of the last few years - too high a price to pay for lack of reliability, and as others have mentioned, most of the problems have resulted from taking thin/light to unnecessary extremes. Not all will agree, but that's my opinion as a long time Apple Mac (and before) user.
I won't be happy until Ives gives us an MBP that is thin as a credit card.
In all seriousness, my mid-2014 MBP will be my last Apple machine. Once my iPhone 6 dies, I'll be swithing on the phone front as well.
In all seriousness, my mid-2014 MBP will be my last Apple machine. Once my iPhone 6 dies, I'll be swithing on the phone front as well.
... and needs to be replaced after each use.
(since obviously those are the two primary goals they're marching toward)
As an Apple user for the past 12 - 15 years, I've noticed the decline in Apple's quality. Sure, they're still beautiful pieces of tech, but the sky-high prices and the **** quality in the pursuit of thinness is driving me away from Apple, and fast.
I'm at a point where my Apple computer, while still working well, could use an upgrade. I haven't purchased an iPad since the 3rd generation, and I have an iPhone 8+ that I'll likely replace in about 1 - 2 years. Since all of my apple devices are nearing the point of replacement, there's nothing holding me back from buying an android phone in the near future.
With Apple's laptops getting too thin that this happens, or the iPads get released bent out of the box and Apple saying it's not a defect, I think I'm finally at a point where leaving Apple makes sense, as sad as it is to say.
Steve would not be proud of Apple today.
I'm at a point where my Apple computer, while still working well, could use an upgrade. I haven't purchased an iPad since the 3rd generation, and I have an iPhone 8+ that I'll likely replace in about 1 - 2 years. Since all of my apple devices are nearing the point of replacement, there's nothing holding me back from buying an android phone in the near future.
With Apple's laptops getting too thin that this happens, or the iPads get released bent out of the box and Apple saying it's not a defect, I think I'm finally at a point where leaving Apple makes sense, as sad as it is to say.
Steve would not be proud of Apple today.
"What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?"
You mean the intelligent people!?
The knowledgable customer/consumer?Yes, they are the "other" people - the greater % of the people here.
Touch Bar - the one unnecessary, expensive and stupid gimmick that Apple forces upon its MacBook Pro customers! Why don't you give this as an option and see what people buy,
?Edit - above.
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Apparently Jony Ive doesn't know what work hardening is.
Good chance Louis Rossmann has encountered this. If so, perhaps he would have some suggestions as to repair options. If you don't know, he's an independent Apple MacBook Pro (and other Apple laptops) repair expert, and an advocate of the "right to repair" movement.;
I think he would still be ok with the Apple Watch, the Apple TV 4K and a couple other things, and maybe the current iPhone. But yea, Ive is effectively killing the Mac laptop line (and apparently now the iPads) with his need to shave an unecessary 1 millimeter off the thickness with every new release.
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Oh, those MacBooks are gonna be worth like nothing in a few years. I think the keyboard & this flex cable fail rate will be close to 100% after 3-4 years if you really use this laptop the way the laptops are designed to be used. Apple needs to design new flawless replacement parts, but there is no chance it will happen.
I guess their are so stubborn right now they won't redesign MBP until 2020 and even the redesign won't be much of a change.
I guess their are so stubborn right now they won't redesign MBP until 2020 and even the redesign won't be much of a change.
For all the last 8 years of 'Steve wouldn't allow this' talk ... I do think this is one area where Steve would have stepped in and said "ok Jony, enough, let's make sure these devices are solid and reliable first, we can pursue more thinness when it really makes sense".
I really do think Steve Jobs would have put a stop to this nonsense by this point.
We have arrived (to the ? - Are we there yet?) - Apple products are already not worth the premium!
The people who buy these products (mea culpa) are the fans of the old Apple
. Those on the other/Apple side of the balance needle of the scale.There is one person who posts excellent visual clues/memes who can help at this point.
I'm talking to you @AngerDanger !
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I feel bad for you, and frankly anyone who bought a 2016-2018 Mac laptop (except the old model airs). ALL of them are ticking time bombs in one way or another.
But... maybe they were able to make it .5mm thinner because of this choice?
Is there any recently introduced Apple computer without problems? If Apple doesn’t want to invest in quality computers anymore they could better cut the cord. It’s hurting the brand. Please mr. Cook kill it or invest, but get us out this misery.
Good thing is, in Germany you'll get this fixed/replaced for free (or get a brand new model instead), up until two years after the date of sale, with or without Apple Care. Law's the law.
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My memory may be faulty, and if so forgive me, but when SJ retired ports or features - serial ports, floppy drives, optical drives - it was usually mostly agreed that the retired ports and/or devices were truly becoming obsolete. I never disagreed with his decisions for those features. I DO disagree with the rapid retirement of headphone jacks, SD card slots, and USB ports for devices that are still in common use throughout the computer industry, all apparently for bravely making devices thin or selling Apple wireless/bluetooth devices - to the point of reduced functionality and reliability. This tendency seems to be becoming systemic with Apple in the last 3 years. Their stellar reputation of the past is becoming tired and worn out. It's a real shame.
This is what the relentless pursuit of profit gets you.
There, fixed your post for you.
At those prices the minimum warranty should be three years. I’m so happy the European law forces them to give a longer warranty span then the meager 1 year Apple is giving.
Don’t buy Apple care. It’s another ripoff.
This is inexcusable. The fault lays with bad design and engineering exacerbated by rushed assembly, which should be accommodated for at the design/engineering stage.
With Apple in the past, yes. I still have a working 2006 15" MBP (1,1). It's slow, battery can no longer be replaced, and it now runs 32-bit Linux since Apple no longer acknowledges it (vintage), but by jimini cricket, it still runs! I never had to replace any parts on it except its user removable batteries. It's a wonder, and I just update its system patches every month or so and turn it on to verify its continuing "just works" status. Love that old MBP.
I agree. One thing is removing something obsolete like optical drive (because in 2012 most of the people were just not using them and those who really needed them just bought a different computer) and the other thing is removing SD card slot which is nowhere near to be obsolete or "outperformed" by a new technology. That is a clear evidence how stupid and illogical step was to remove all the different ports.