I'll admit I don't pay close attention either, but you would be surprised how many people have never flown before so the safety brief is still important.
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Flight Attendants Union Challenges FAA Decision Allowing Passengers to Use Electronics in All Phases of Flight
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I'll admit I don't pay close attention either, but you would be surprised how many people have never flown before so the safety brief is still important.
Yes and no. The rules restricting personal electronic devices actually go all the way back to the first generation of transistor radios from Regency, Westinghouse and others before the Japanese consumer electronics invasion of the late 1950's. Many of these devices were built so cheaply, they gave off sideband interference into aviation bands the pilots were using with the tower and in flight. Hence the ban.
Now fast forward sixty years and you have "electronic devices" with a much better build quality, very little if any sideband interference but the same rules are still in effect.
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They should make it interesting, change it up, maybe put jokes in, make it a show, dancing girls and all that jaz. Then people will watch and listen.
The Deltas briefing this year have been mildly entertaining.
You hit it right on the head. My sister worked airline flights and one of her rules was "Assume every customer is flying for the first time."
Typically one screaming kid can make the flight hell for everyone else. This is why you see so many attendants put a lot of attention on children in flight.
Can't people go a few minutes without being on their phones? Remember the good old days (7 years ago) when people actually talked to the people next to them. vs Mind your business and let me do as I please. I have as much of a right to be on this plane as you and last I checked looking at my emails wasn't considered obnoxious
Except for the fact that we, the people, own the airspace, from SFC-FL600.
Furthermore, from the US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:
Air travel is interstate commerce, which falls under the jurisdiction of the government. Airlines aren't free to do whatever they want; they have to abide by regulations set forth by the government, and the FAA is part of that.
You should see Air New Zealand. They do theirs naked.
BL.
I keep on thinking if that "perfect storm" of a liability lawsuit with an hot cup of coffee from an airport McDonald's, boarding a plane, take off turbulence and someone scolded will come about.
Its rather ammusing how flippent everyone here is with flight safety. I mean considering their have been enough aircraft crashes for a documentary series to be made about them plus a spin off documentary series both with seemingly endless new material.
Then again if your plane crashes you'll most likely die anyway so I guess their really is no harm in ignoring the safety breifings, of course if you were in the military and ignored safety breifings then you wouldn't be in the military for very long, and they get shot at.
Just my opinion, but it is still a fact the most dangerous parts of a flight are the take off and landings. And I would also argue a thin device made of metal and glass is a more dangerous projectile then a thick paperback book.
Then again if your plane crashes you'll most likely die anyway so I guess their really is no harm in ignoring the safety breifings, of course if you were in the military and ignored safety breifings then you wouldn't be in the military for very long, and they get shot at.
Just my opinion, but it is still a fact the most dangerous parts of a flight are the take off and landings. And I would also argue a thin device made of metal and glass is a more dangerous projectile then a thick paperback book.
I still talk to people next to me on flights and made some very good friends due to it. One lead to a wonderful weekend at a private ranch in the middle of rural west Texas.
Heaven forbid! You engaged in actual real life face to face conversation with strangers and made friends
What is the world coming to...
What did we do before smart phone's were common? Play games and read on our RAZR flip-phones? Oh, we just sat back, relaxed, read a magazine, and, what was that thing we used to do? Oh yeah, talk with the people around us.
Not stating anything other than we need to unplug once in a while. If we're that edgy that 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes away from our mobile devices is enough to warrant this behavior, then we need to rethink our lives.
Not stating anything other than we need to unplug once in a while. If we're that edgy that 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes away from our mobile devices is enough to warrant this behavior, then we need to rethink our lives.
But not for long, apparently.
And like I said, maybe they took a very conservative approach, but the world didn't exactly grind to a halt.
FAA can make up anything it wants to...
The airlines is responsible for saying "yes" or "no" the last leg.
FAA can't exactly make all airlines say "They must allow this...."
BTW: These MR users are the same people that can't be anywhere without a technology Remember that....
The idea of a flight is to take a break, and get away from all that..
Users can't even stay 2 seconds away from Facebook, so there is your answer..
The airlines is responsible for saying "yes" or "no" the last leg.
FAA can't exactly make all airlines say "They must allow this...."
BTW: These MR users are the same people that can't be anywhere without a technology
Remember that.... The idea of a flight is to take a break, and get away from all that..
Users can't even stay 2 seconds away from Facebook, so there is your answer..
When you see the same idiots on flights again and again, stupid comes to mind.
I don't fly a lot, it has reverted to mostly personal flights, but each and every time onedoes fly you see people blissfully ignoring all reasonable requests. Sometimes that is due to them being drunk but most of the time simple stupidity comes to mind. It is especially worrisome when the stupid are obviously sober.
The problem here is that if a plane does crash these idiots become an extreme danger to the rest of the passenger base. It is pretty disgusting that these self absorbed people can't give up a few minutes of their trips for the good of everyone on the flight.
I don't fly a lot, it has reverted to mostly personal flights, but each and every time onedoes fly you see people blissfully ignoring all reasonable requests. Sometimes that is due to them being drunk but most of the time simple stupidity comes to mind. It is especially worrisome when the stupid are obviously sober.
The problem here is that if a plane does crash these idiots become an extreme danger to the rest of the passenger base. It is pretty disgusting that these self absorbed people can't give up a few minutes of their trips for the good of everyone on the flight.
Here's my $0.02:
1)I honestly believe the only reason the airlines/attendants want to ban electronic items is so they can feel empowered and police us into listening to them. I'm very serious about this. I've seen their attitudes time and time again on numerous airlines for the past 20+ years.
2)As many have mentioned, anything can become a projectile...powered on or off...books, babies, can of soda, etc.
3)If they are honestly concerned about people paying attention to the safety announcement, well a)they only announce that during takeoff so why is landing such as hassle for them? and b)the easier solution (get ready)...is to simply do the safety announcements BEFORE takeoff. Meaning, push away from the gate, do the 5 minute speel while taxi'ing to the runway, then tell everyone to enjoy their flight and the attendants just shut the bleep up.
I've been flying a lot since 1998 for business and pleasure...about 2 times a month. Numerous times I was told to turn off my Bose headphones (and I asked if they were going to force me to listen to their announcement)...so I powered it off and sometimes they attempted to force me to remove the headphones (so you gonna make me take off my hat too? what about people with those neck pillows)? I'm not looking to be a jerk but give me a break.
The attendants need to stop looking for a cop complex and actually, well, be EMPLOYEES that are getting to me to my destination (like trains, boats, buses, etc.) It's very inconsistent as far as the airlines enforcing the rules.
1)I honestly believe the only reason the airlines/attendants want to ban electronic items is so they can feel empowered and police us into listening to them. I'm very serious about this. I've seen their attitudes time and time again on numerous airlines for the past 20+ years.
2)As many have mentioned, anything can become a projectile...powered on or off...books, babies, can of soda, etc.
3)If they are honestly concerned about people paying attention to the safety announcement, well a)they only announce that during takeoff so why is landing such as hassle for them? and b)the easier solution (get ready)...is to simply do the safety announcements BEFORE takeoff. Meaning, push away from the gate, do the 5 minute speel while taxi'ing to the runway, then tell everyone to enjoy their flight and the attendants just shut the bleep up.
I've been flying a lot since 1998 for business and pleasure...about 2 times a month. Numerous times I was told to turn off my Bose headphones (and I asked if they were going to force me to listen to their announcement)...so I powered it off and sometimes they attempted to force me to remove the headphones (so you gonna make me take off my hat too? what about people with those neck pillows)? I'm not looking to be a jerk but give me a break.
The attendants need to stop looking for a cop complex and actually, well, be EMPLOYEES that are getting to me to my destination (like trains, boats, buses, etc.) It's very inconsistent as far as the airlines enforcing the rules.
Awesome! I've never been that fortunate, but I have definitely had nice conversation with people while flying. In fact, my portable electronic device is a backup so that I have something to read/watch/listen to if there's no one to chat with.
I think they are just frustrated because now so many people don't pay attention to the safety briefing before each flight. They feel disrespected. And I'm not surprised, because last time I was on a flight 80% of the people were distracted while the flight attendants were talking, and they seemed a little ticked off by it
It wasn't "stupid in the first place." But it has been deemed irrelevant now. I think the FA union just needs to move along, and leave this alone.
Who knows. This might just be a power play by the union heads.
This. I'd say they should ban those gadgets completely, so that people have a few hours alone with themselves to think about their lives for once. But then again I suspect that would be a much greater safety danger than those gadgets were in the first place.
Admittedly I'd rather read or play with some electronic device instead of talking to somebody next to me on a flight. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, I once got set next to this gal from California that was most interesting when it comes to conversation - beautiful too.
This is the problem. It isn't too much to ask passengers to make the plane safe for the rest of the passengers during landing or take offs. If people are too put out by such requests maybe they need to find another way to travel.
Then we're even, because when I fly certain airlines I feel like 80% of the flight attendants are distracted, hanging out in the galleys bitching about their retirement, or doing a crossword puzzle in the jump seat.
I have a nice list of connections made by flights. One turned into a girlfriend for a few months.
Think about this a bit, where do many flight attendants sit? Often at the front of the plane facing the passengers. In a crash they are on the receiving end of everything that becomes airborne. It is the same rational for making sure everybody has their seat belts on, imagine a 200 pound man flying through the air and getting plastered across the face of a flight attendant. An iPad would be just as harmful.
Really are you that out of touch with reality here.