For an external Hard Drive - USB2 or FW400?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by Balli, Jun 12, 2007.

  1. Balli macrumors 6502

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    I will be using it to transfer and backup most movies (around 700MB each). Which Hard Drive connection is better, USB2 or FW400?

    The 2 drives I have narrowed it down to both have 16MB of cache - if that helps?
     
  2. shipdestroyer macrumors 6502

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    USB 2.0 has a higher potential speed (480mbps vs 400mbps for Firewire), but typically doesn't sustain its max speed because the data runs through the cpu. Data over Firewire doesn't, so it can run at a constant 400.

    The general idea is Firewire for large files, otherwise it doesn't really matter.
     
  3. Jessy macrumors regular

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    FW is better for hard drives, but I sold my FW drives for a USB 2.0 one because Apple were pieces of garbage again and used that on the Airport Extreme Base Station instead of FireWire.
     
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  5. roland.g macrumors 603

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    Firewire for video. 800 if possible. 400 if not. USB2 is more universal and good for backups, external photo and music libraries. But for movies, firewire. If once you have all your videos on there you will be occassionally adding a movie or two, and are not still working with DV footage on a daily basis or daily transfers, you can get USB2 and be fine.
     
  6. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Buy a dual interface drive. I find FW400 faster on my MyBook drive when doing backups but a USB interface can come in handy.
     
  7. HMSAgincourt macrumors newbie

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    Although USB 2.0 rates at 480 mbps, much performance is lost from the huge overhead required. FW 400 requires much less, so you can expect average transfer rates of around 35 megabytes per second for a large file while USB will get about 25. Most of the time, USB will perform at comparable speeds to FW 400, but overall, you can expect better performance with firewire. If you can get both USB and firewire on the same enclosure, buy it. If you don't have FW 800, don't spend a premium for an enclosure; it will not do any better than FW 400.
     
  8. CV4 macrumors member

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    Don't mean to hijack the thread, though I kind of am, but

    Are you guys saying that for someone who will only be using their external HD for music, backups, and dvdrips (generally xvid format) that a usb2 is all that is needed and it isn't worth paying more for the FW800 port?

    This would be with a new MBP for reference.
     
  9. nnick macrumors regular

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    The dual interface drives are nice. You will want firewire for movies. Dual interface is nice if you take the hard drive somewhere where the local computer does not have firewire port.
     
  10. fairnymph macrumors 6502

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    I'm impatient so I would get FW800 if possible!
     
  11. iBookG4user macrumors 604

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    I would get a FireWire 400 over a USB external hard drive, you don't need a FireWire 800 for your uses, but I find that I do most of the same things as you do with my FireWire external hard drive and it's great for that. I also have a USB external hard drive and it's slower than the FireWire, so I much prefer the FireWire drive.
     
  12. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    agreed. options are good.

    FW 400 is better than USB 2.0 though imo. especially for continuous access or long transfers.
     
  13. WannaGoMac macrumors 65816

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    FW may be nice, but the chances of it being on EVERY computer you go to is much smaller than there being a USB port.

    Better yet, get an eSata external for best speed... oh wait... macs don't have eSata ports
     
  14. yodermk macrumors member

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    Absolutely. My ASUS Z84JP has a built in eSATA port.

    USB2: 27MB/sec
    Internal SATA/150 drive: 40MB/sec
    eSATA with a SATA-II drive: 80MB/sec

    There are ExpressCard eSATA cards that may work in an MBP. Not sure if they're /34 or /54 though.

    Including one in the next MBP revision would be one more way for Apple to rock us!
     
  15. The Stig macrumors 6502a

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    I have a drive that is both usb 2 and firewire 400 and FW400 is SO MUCH BETTER. Much faster. I recommend it.

    The Stig
     
  16. WannaGoMac macrumors 65816

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    Ya, kinda disapointing that a company known for pushing the tech edge (wireless, firewire, 3.5" floppy) is lagging lately. Guess they don't want to try and set standards anymore, and just follow the industry. Might be smarter business for them this way...
     
  17. himansk macrumors regular

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    i backup my main hdd from my mbp revA to a dual interface external hdd every friday night. real world speeds for the backup:

    USB2.0: 12-14 MB per second (variable)
    FW400: 24MB (sustained, almost constant speed without spikes)

    (this is from the activity monitory looking at the disk activity graphs and details without any other program running at the time of the backups)

    so this is why I would rather have a FW400 than a USB, plus I am currently booting from the FW drive without any speed or response problems. running the OS from USB, its slow as hell cant even get it to boot and try to press the restart button without long periods of beach balls.
     
  18. Edandlindz28 macrumors regular

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    Get an one with both so you have flexability.
     
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  20. L3X macrumors 6502a

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    FW800 is available on the new MBPs, get it if you can.

    Otherwise, it's a toss up between USB2 and FW. If you are using other USB devices on a laptop especially, i would save those for devices that need them. Most external HDs come with USB and FW so use the FW.
     
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  22. T0mmyGunZ macrumors member

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    i dont know much about this stuff but why isnt anyone talking about fw 800?
     
  23. shantyfolk macrumors newbie

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    with a firewire drive you can make bootable copies of your harddrive, then you can take your external to someone elses mac, boot up from your drive, and its your computer (on their mac). it rawks
     
  24. synth3tik macrumors 68040

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    USB 2.0 for sure. If you can I would use FW800. It's not as standard, but I like it. I am using it (currently) for my back_up drive. I will likely go USB 2 when 10.5 comes so I can really take advantage of Time Machine.
     
  25. thegoldenmackid macrumors 604

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    I have a Western Digital MyBook Pro.

    I love it so much, it has a triple interface which allows me to use the Firewire800.

    I would definitely go with Firewire even if it is Firewire400, as it's been stated it's consistent where USB is really shaky. Besides speed it's also nice to know when your files will actually finish.
     

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