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You are saying Facebook integration is a "need", but being able to open one file in multiple apps is not?
Yes it is. 1 billion people are using Facebook. Nobody -except a bunch of techies- want a file browser and other irrelevant, complicated features.

Really, it's that simple. It's just the nerds / geeks that complain. Compare it with the release of 4S. The whole web figured Apple failed big time, but in reality Apple broke record sales. Well, how do you explain that? The non-tech people aka the 99%, does not care a bit about specs or big changes. They just want something that works flawlessly. If you want full customizability, or a complete redo of the GUI every major OS update get an Android. Apple is all about consistency. They won't ever change something for changes' sake.

Just my 2 cts.
 
Yes it is. 1 billion people are using Facebook. Nobody -except a bunch of techies- want a file browser and other irrelevant, complicated features.

Really, it's that simple. It's just the nerds / geeks that complain. Compare it with the release of 4S. The whole web figured Apple failed big time, but in reality Apple broke record sales. Well, how do you explain that? The non-tech people aka the 99%, does not care a bit about specs or big changes. They just want something that works flawlessly. If you want full customizability, or a complete redo of the GUI every major OS update get an Android. Apple is all about consistency. They won't ever change something for changes' sake.

Just my 2 cts.

Only techies? BS. File management is essential for any number of productivity applications. Say for instance a sound artist wants to download some audio samples, mix them together, and upload the resulting file back to the Internet.

Sure you can currently send files between apps in iOS, but only by copying the original file and creating a duplicate in the destination app directory. It's a slow and clunky solution. Especially since there is a 500MB 350MB limit to these copies.
 
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I suspect those that complain the most are non-developers who should not have the builds in the first place.
Because that makes their opinions and impressions worthless, right :rolleyes:

The flipside is there are developers who have not even installed the beta yet because they need to get some real work done on a stable platform. And they are allowed to have an opinion on what other people's impressions are, and that is useful whether or not those people are developers. Or is that not ok with you either?
 
Because that makes their opinions and impressions worthless, right :rolleyes:
It's not that they're worthless -- it's just they're often not all that useful at this point in time. Once you hit beta, Apple generally has only two choices:

  1. Finish up work-in-progress, fix bugs, make small tweaks, and release the app.
  2. Do not release the app.
At this point, Apple cannot make big/significant changes -- they're too far along in the release cycle for that. Obviously, Apple can take note of what people are saying, and then adjust future releases -- but big changes can't be made once you hit beta. (OK, if something happens that screws the pooch and delays the schedule, you can, but that doesn't happen to Apple. :D )

However, a big issue is that a lot of people (not everyone, obviously) are basically saying, "If the next release doesn't make me happy, I'm gonna throw a tantrum." That's not helpful, and just adds a lot of noise.
 
I'm certainly not a "techie" yet I understand what a file system is and use it everday without the least bit of confusion. If anyone could implement that for a mobile platform in a non confusing way it's Apple.
 
Yes it is. 1 billion people are using Facebook.

And why would those 1 billion people want OS level integration of a social media site ?

Personally, I'd rather Apple develop a Social Media Framework, where social media networks could simply plug into so that the OS gets whatever integration the user wants, not whatever integration Apple implements. LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook, Google+, whatever. The user installs the app, allows it to integrate into the OS via the Social Media Framework and boom.

The user gets control rather than Apple.
 
I'm ditching my jailbreak for iOS 6, I'm excited. Jailbreaking is fun and all, but its not epic. The crashes, respringing, etc gets really annoying. The only thing that will suck will be losing iFile. I use that one for transferring retina-level wallpapers to my iPad, being that I found out Dropbox degrades picture quality.
 
Not a developer and I love iOS6. Tons of little things in there that are great features.So many are quick to judge off others opinion. Dig in enjoy it,more user friendly,more detail,more features but without the confusion...overkill of Android.
 
No no no no iOS 5 was a MUCH bigger update than 6. Lets be serious.


Oh really. Nearly every single stock app has a refresh. You can just look at major new groudbreaking features. Plus the maps app alone (wether you actually like it or not) it a HUGE update.

I can guarentee you that if I look back on threads 12 months ago talking about iOS 5, I would find TONS of people complaining about what a small update it was. How it was the smallest update yet. All it brought was a notification system which "should have been implemented two years ago!"

Now let's go back 24 months. Look everyone's complaining about how small iOS 4 is. "We want REAL multitasking!"

now 36 months to "iPhone OS" 3... "Oh wow now we have copy/paste and MMS... what phones have had for years"

48 months... "All we get is an app store? I already have that with my jailbreak!"

My point is every single year our expectations outstrip what is possible. We are always building up these ideas in our head of how much things can change and how Apple will revolutionize everything. Every year have been small, iterative updates. That has never changed, but after 12 months we seem to forget and think things were much better than they were. Next year people will be talking about how iOS 6 was a much bigger update than iOS 7... :rolleyes:
 
It's cool, though, that the Maps app finally gets turn-by-turn directions and that I can now make FaceTime calls over 3G.

I guess it's time to start thinking about what I should get from iOS 6.1.
 
Yes it is. 1 billion people are using Facebook. Nobody -except a bunch of techies- want a file browser and other irrelevant, complicated features.

Really, it's that simple. It's just the nerds / geeks that complain. Compare it with the release of 4S. The whole web figured Apple failed big time, but in reality Apple broke record sales. Well, how do you explain that? The non-tech people aka the 99%, does not care a bit about specs or big changes. They just want something that works flawlessly. If you want full customizability, or a complete redo of the GUI every major OS update get an Android. Apple is all about consistency. They won't ever change something for changes' sake.

Just my 2 cts.

I don't see anyone asking for a complete re-do of the UI. I see people asking for at least a SMALL change in the 6 years of its existence.

Those 2 cents of yours, save them. With business sense like yours you're going to need every penny you can get.

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It's cool, though, that the Maps app finally gets turn-by-turn directions and that I can now make FaceTime calls over 3G.

I guess it's time to start thinking about what I should get from iOS 6.1.

Actually, you should probably start thinking of an unlimited data plan if making facetime calls over 3G is the best feature to you.

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Oh really. Nearly every single stock app has a refresh. You can just look at major new groudbreaking features. Plus the maps app alone (wether you actually like it or not) it a HUGE update.

I can guarentee you that if I look back on threads 12 months ago talking about iOS 5, I would find TONS of people complaining about what a small update it was. How it was the smallest update yet. All it brought was a notification system which "should have been implemented two years ago!"

Now let's go back 24 months. Look everyone's complaining about how small iOS 4 is. "We want REAL multitasking!"

now 36 months to "iPhone OS" 3... "Oh wow now we have copy/paste and MMS... what phones have had for years"

48 months... "All we get is an app store? I already have that with my jailbreak!"

My point is every single year our expectations outstrip what is possible. We are always building up these ideas in our head of how much things can change and how Apple will revolutionize everything. Every year have been small, iterative updates. That has never changed, but after 12 months we seem to forget and think things were much better than they were. Next year people will be talking about how iOS 6 was a much bigger update than iOS 7... :rolleyes:

Lets wait until the final product is released before calling the new maps a HUGE update.

If you really think this update beats iOS 5 in terms of everyday usability (introduction of notification center, Siri, iMessage, iCloud integration, OTA Updates, Tabbed Browsing, Wifi Sync, etc) you really have no idea.
 
Lets wait until the final product is released before calling the new maps a HUGE update.

If you really think this update beats iOS 5 in terms of everyday usability (introduction of notification center, Siri, iMessage, iCloud integration, OTA Updates, Tabbed Browsing, Wifi Sync, etc) you really have no idea.

Notice I didn't say huge improvement. I said huge update, as in a huge undertaking requireing a huge amount of iOS 6 effort. Does that make sense? Large important features in the past (multitasking, copy/paste, etc) were heralded greatly, but they were extremely simplistic. All that was involved in multitasking is opening up a few API's (I'm sure I'm over simplifying but you have the idea). Building a WORLD WIDE, maps app from the ground up with standard map view, satalite view, 3D imagery, turn-by-turn navigation, and a huge database of POI's is a gigantuan update. Google has been working on mapping for a decade to get where there are, if Apple is able to even get close to being equivalent with Google on their first attempt, that is a big deal. Yes I know this would never have been possible without all their acquisitions and content partnerships, but that stuff isn't easy to do.

Regarding iOS 5. Siri was touted as an iPhone 4S feature, NOT an iOS 5 feature. iCloud was an iCloud feature. It is a separate service, and quite frankly iOS 5 didn't really integrate as well with it as I was expecting. iMessage was just a chat client (like the 50 others on the app store) and one that didn't even work with their EXISTING chat client, iChat.

To me the big features of iOS 5 were notification center, and the whole PC free concept. And then there was some polish across the OS. iOS 6 gives the whole new maps, a more full featured Siri, and a lot of polish/overhauls across the OS (hello email attachments!).

Everyone just has such crazy expectations. iOS is a mature operating system, and Apple will continue to iteratively make improvements each year, same as the last few years.
 
I'll wait till it's here with the new iphone before judging really but they could have spent the extra 30 mins to update the icons. Nothing drastic but it would still have given it a new fresh feel.

ie the calendar icon, change the red to blue, green or something, change the camera icon up, change the clock icon, etc etc.

It doesn't take much to do that while still not having to spend a lot of time doing so.

The clock was altered but only ever so slightly. I think Apples idea of a "revamp" would be the status bar color change. But I do like what iOS 6 has to offer.
 
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