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For those that have said "Apple doesn't listen to their customers"

mmm...

Better battery life and rebadging don't really count as listening I reckon.

BUT ...

I firmly believe they did listen in regards to firewire. I honestly believed they wouldn't do it. but they have. Well done apple!
 
NT1440 said:
The majority? You arent the majority.

You don't remember the polls that were done and glossy beat out matte?

Or did you mean the majority of whiners?
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The MacRumors members are not the majority of anything, we are the absolute smallest minority of customers Apple has. A majority of customers never go on the tubes and complain/praise their systems. And if they do go on the tubes, its to complain mostly.
 
uberamd said:
The MacRumors members are not the majority of anything, we are the absolute smallest minority of customers Apple has. A majority of customers never go on the tubes and complain/praise their systems. And if they do go on the tubes, its to complain mostly.
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I agree. I doubt most consumers even know what FW is.
 
Just before the opening of WWDC, several mac magazines and other blog sites were saying how Apple needed to lower the price of their current MB and MBP lines. That Apples prices in this current economic recession were turning some potential buyers off. So what does Apple do, they lower their prices. Now does this mean that Apple gave into the blog sites and magazine articles, probably not. More than likely they had this idea of cutting the price for a while. Still though Apple could have kept prices the same or even raised them, as somebody said the other day, but they didn't. So while the improvements made were not earth shattering, by any means, and some customers wants got overlooked, it seems that Apple is hearing it's customers and trying to make changes here and their that most everybody will be happy with.
 
m85476585 said:
It's not a pro machine in my opinion without a real video card, an expresscard slot, and a matte screen (at least as an option).
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Watch the keynote, Phil explained this. Single digit percentages used the express card slot. They kept it on the 17" for Video people. I'm pretty sure an awful lot more than a single digit percent will use the SD card. That said, why not CF too? At least in the 15"....

Apple listened quite a bit. Better screen, better battery, brought back firewire, 8GB!!! RAM, 3.06 GHz Dual Core (yes, I know, quad is better), AND lowered the price.
 
How many people actually pull the SD card out of their camera and put it in a reader? I'm willing to bet that most people do not. Instead they connect the camera directly to the computer.
 
m85476585 said:
How many people actually pull the SD card out of their camera and put it in a reader? I'm willing to bet that most people do not. Instead they connect the camera directly to the computer.
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Thatd be a major negatory there. Not when SD readers are built into computers, its like a half a second operation to pop that sucker out and into the computer.
 
NT1440 said:
Thatd be a major negatory there. Not when SD readers are built into computers, its like a half a second operation to pop that sucker out and into the computer.
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Agreed, I would definitely rather not have to deal with another cord to hook up to my computer. Memory card readers are much better.

I will agree the express card removal seems odd, but people need to stop complaining! look at all the other things apple has done for us. I know that I sure as hell am happy.
 
m85476585 said:
How many people actually pull the SD card out of their camera and put it in a reader? I'm willing to bet that most people do not. Instead they connect the camera directly to the computer.
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as a photographer i can tell you that built in sd card readers are a god send..
it saves your camera battery power...less cables... and you get the pictures to your hard drive faster than using an external card reader... and not to mention the majority of prople that own a point and shoot camera do not have the cable to connect it to their computer because people tend to lose wires alot... i think having this was a very smart move by apple
 
mrmayor92 said:
as a photographer i can tell you that built in sd card readers are a god send..
it saves your camera battery power...less cables... and you get the pictures to your hard drive faster than using an external card reader... and not to mention the majority of prople that own a point and shoot camera do not have the cable to connect it to their computer because people tend to lose wires alot... i think having this was a very smart move by apple
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Of course if your camera doesn't use SD cards then the slot is usless...
 
splashnader said:
It seems as though Apple is listening to their customers. How many of us have begged for a 13" MBP over the last two years or even longer? How many of us have asked for longer battery life in the in MBP line (full line)? These improvements and new MBP's have come, IMO, from Apple listening to what their customers have been saying. Yes there were a few disappointments, but it seems that Apple is willing to give its loyal customers what they have been asking for and this WWDC has proven that.
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No actually Apple just renamed their computer and now the 13" MacBook and the 15" MacBook Pro share the same motherboard layout (notice how both have the same ports on the side (with the MacBook missing the mic in).

Apple couldn't remove FW from the MacBook Pro without alienation another of "pro" users, so they just left it on the board.
 
splashnader said:
It seems as though Apple is listening to their customers. How many of us have begged for a 13" MBP over the last two years or even longer? How many of us have asked for longer battery life in the in MBP line (full line)? These improvements and new MBP's have come, IMO, from Apple listening to what their customers have been saying. Yes there were a few disappointments, but it seems that Apple is willing to give its loyal customers what they have been asking for and this WWDC has proven that.
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Its not that people screamed for a 13" MBP

It's that people screamed for FireWire 800 in the MacBook.

To save face, Apple added the FW and called it a MBP.


Otherwise, why completely drop a 13" MacBook (minus FW)?
Easy: No one would buy it, even if it replaced the White MacBook
 
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