For those who are waiting for next year's phone

[Seanm87]

I find it strange that so many people are taking an internet rumour on face value and assuming next year will be the big update.

How often are internet rumours a year in advance true? They don't start getting any kind of truth until a few months before release. Remember the iPhone pro that surfaced with its 3 pin connector on the back? that ended up being wrong and that was doing the rounds until about a month ago.

What if there is an iPhone 7s next year with incremental upgrades? What if the iPhone 8 isn't what the rumours say?

Of course it's everyone's choice but I think a bit more scepticism is needed and not believing every rumour so far in advance.

 

[RedOrchestra]

Selective hearing? and they've all hired numerologists to make their decisions for them a la the Reagans.

 

[Dirtydutch]

I find it strange that so many people are taking an internet rumour on face value and assuming next year will be the big update.

How often are internet rumours a year in advance true? They don't start getting any kind of truth until a few months before release. Remember the iPhone pro that surfaced with its 3 pin connector on the back? that ended up being wrong and that was doing the rounds until about a month ago.

What if there is an iPhone 7s next year with incremental upgrades? What if the iPhone 8 isn't what the rumours say?

Of course it's everyone's choice but I think a bit more scepticism is needed and not believing every rumour so far in advance.

I agree you never know what the future will bring, especially since Apple since to likes to spread their upgraded features, they never seem to put their eggs in the basket of one years model

 

[Neebee]

Well, one thing is for certain. The camera will have dual optical image stabilization and it is rumoured that the iPhone will be glass and it's display will be from edge to edge like the Samsung Galaxy Edge.

 

[ABC5S]

I find it strange that so many people are taking an internet rumour on face value and assuming next year will be the big update.

How often are internet rumours a year in advance true? They don't start getting any kind of truth until a few months before release. Remember the iPhone pro that surfaced with its 3 pin connector on the back? that ended up being wrong and that was doing the rounds until about a month ago.

What if there is an iPhone 7s next year with incremental upgrades? What if the iPhone 8 isn't what the rumours say?


What if we have a 7S instead of at 8 with no major style upgrade? You're telling me that we're going to have at least four years of the same style as we do today? Major fail

Nope, there will be a major style upgrade. Just that we don't know what it's gonna look like.

 

[Nozuka]

There's no need to upgrade every year. Or even every two years. iPhone 5 is still running fine. If they can wait, they should!

I couldn't wait.

 

[Neebee]

There's no need to upgrade every year. Or even every two years. iPhone 5 is still running fine. If they can wait, they should!

I couldn't wait.

My iphone 5 died because of my carelessness. I have no choice

 

[Ronnoco]

There's no need to upgrade every year. Or even every two years. iPhone 5 is still running fine. If they can wait, they should!

I couldn't wait.

In my case it certainly isn't "need", it's much more of a want. My 6+ is two years old. It works fine (albeit slower than it was). I take a lot of pictures and am looking forward to the new cameras. I also like the IP67 water and dust resistance. I've heard so many "dropped in the toilet or in the sink" stories that I don't even take my phone into the bathroom. Lol
Of course the better Touch ID, the stereo speakers, the new black colors, 3gb of RAM with 256gb storage, the new W1 audio chip and the Airpods, and especially the A10 Fusion chip with it's much improved gpu all make this a very exciting upgrade for me. Not so sure about the new faster LTE modem as I don't think any carrier is offering anything near 450mbs LTE, but certainly would future-proof the phone for a while. All in all it is a good update for anyone coming from a 4, 5, or 6. If I had gone for the 6S last year, I probably would've skipped the 7.

 

[eyoungren]

I find it strange that so many people are taking an internet rumour on face value and assuming next year will be the big update.

How often are internet rumours a year in advance true? They don't start getting any kind of truth until a few months before release. Remember the iPhone pro that surfaced with its 3 pin connector on the back? that ended up being wrong and that was doing the rounds until about a month ago.

What if there is an iPhone 7s next year with incremental upgrades? What if the iPhone 8 isn't what the rumours say?

Of course it's everyone's choice but I think a bit more scepticism is needed and not believing every rumour so far in advance.

I'll just tell you what I told someone else on reddit who asked.

I consider the camera bump and antenna lines on the 6/6+ to be fugly. Apple didn't change any of that with the 6s/6s+. Still fugly.

Apple doubled down on the camera bump size with the 7. Double fugly. And they did not change how the phone looks. No sale.

But Apple changed the look of the phone with the 3G. They changed it with the 4. They changed it with the 5. And they changed it again with the 6. The 7 is the third iteration of the ugly 6 series even though Apple calls it the 7.

If they do NOT change it next year I will be either wait again or be looking for a different phone manufacturer. I skipped the entire 4/4s series because I hate the look of that phone.

I buy based on looks and I do not like the looks of the 6-7 series. I have a 6s+, but that's because of circumstance not because I really wanted the phone.

Conversely though, based on your argument that because Apple never confirms anything, we then have to assume that the look of the phone will NEVER change ever again. I mean there is zero confirmation from Apple that the iPhone of 2020 or 2032 or 2045 or beyond will look ANY different than the iPhone 7.

So, if there is no confirmation that they will change the look there is also no confirmation that they won't.

 

[That70sGAdawg]

To those wanting to wait - Go ahead, it will be a long year. Why not get the 7, or 7+ Unlocked and sell it next year for 65-70% of its cost next year? Enjoy for a year and consider the 35% loss rent.

 

[caligurl]

I'll be playing with my 7+ while waiting for next year's phone.....

 

[elistan]

I tend to keep an iPhone until it no longer supports the latest iOS. So my wife's 4S is being replaced by a 7 on Friday, and my 5S will be replaced likely in two years by an 8 when my phone can't run iOS 12. I don't worry about whether the current or next update is a big update or incremental update.

 

[Armen]

Knowing the 2 following things about Apple it's pretty safe to say that the "10 year anniversary" iPhone won't be packed with features.

1. Apple needs customers to continue to buy new iPhones:

How do you do this? You release a new iPhone every year with a couple of unique features that were not present in the prior model. With that being said you can take a guess at which 2-3 rumored features will make it into the 2017 model (wireless charging, edge to edge display, curved display etc).

2. Profit Margins

Apple keeps very tight profit margins. Unless cost drops dramatically don't expect a lot of new features from the 2017 iPhone. I know you're thinking "but, but this the 10 year anniversary! it's special!" Sure, but special enough for Apple to generate less revenue? no way.

I think the 2017 iPhone is going to feature a Ceramic casing and maybe 1 other feature like a new screen technology. I expect the following year for it to feature a true wireless charging feature and not that "lay your phone down on a pad that's plugged in at the corner over there".

 

[yegon]

Wouldn't surprise me at all if next years is new form factor, higher res display, one other new thing, underwhelming CPU/GPU boost, same ram, same/ever so slightly worse battery life.

S, and in this years case, SS, phones generally seem to offer more "new" imo just not in form factor. I suspect this is lost on most people where form factor is everything....which is then promptly stuffed in a crappy case. Derp.

That said, we've been firmly in diminishing returns territory industry wide for the last few years.

 

[Hogg]

The one thing about the 8 series rumors I find a bit hard to believe, is the one about it looking similar to this...

Seeing how iPhones still have huge bezels in '16 ...I can't imagine they go from that to none, one year from now.

I will however enjoy the 7+ and probably a few Android flagships, in the next year (JOD). And then I'll for sure be getting whatever the 8 turns out to be No doubt it will be a completely new design of some kind. And no doubt it'll be absolutely amazing.

 

[kilcher]

I'm keeping my 6 Plus another year, so that'll be three years. I'll be really disappointed if next year is a 7S but I'll buy it anyway. If Apple taught us one thing during the keynote it's that every new iPhone is the best iPhone ever.

 

[slippery-pete]

I find it strange that so many people are taking an internet rumour on face value and assuming next year will be the big update.

How often are internet rumours a year in advance true? They don't start getting any kind of truth until a few months before release. Remember the iPhone pro that surfaced with its 3 pin connector on the back? that ended up being wrong and that was doing the rounds until about a month ago.

What if there is an iPhone 7s next year with incremental upgrades? What if the iPhone 8 isn't what the rumours say?

Of course it's everyone's choice but I think a bit more scepticism is needed and not believing every rumour so far in advance.

oh thanks for the info

 

[Sunny1990]

There will be iPhone 7S next year if they repeat the history

 

[woozor1]

I think the people that are clinging on to there iphone 6 or 6s cant afford to upgrade yearly so they weigh up there pluses and minus's. Personally I live for now get what I want when its out. Not hope for some special thing a year later. A year is a long time.

 

[golfdude]

There will be iPhone 7S next year if they repeat the history

Yep? What am I missing, has Apple ever skipped a "S" rev of a model? The iPhone 8 should be 2018. I am sure there will be some 10 yr anniv. surprise but it will be probably some color change they make a limited QTY of. Look at how many people are going nuts over the JB's.

Major change will be 2018.

 

[urkel]

I find it strange that so many people are taking an internet rumour on face value and assuming next year will be the big update.

I don't think people are going off rumor. It's more that people are expecting the obvious.

- 10th Anniversary
- Outdated charging
- Outdated screen
- Gradual hardware changes moving towards an obvious future

And most importantly... Apple is for too talented and can do much better than what we've seen for the last two years.

 

[noobinator]

Yep? What am I missing, has Apple ever skipped a "S" rev of a model? The iPhone 8 should be 2018. I am sure there will be some 10 yr anniv. surprise but it will be probably some color change they make a limited QTY of. Look at how many people are going nuts over the JB's.

Major change will be 2018.

Apple is the best Marketing company in the world. Do you think they will miss an opportunity to play up the 10th anniversary and release a shiny new design and make their stock prices skyrocket?

 

[yegon]

Yep? What am I missing, has Apple ever skipped a "S" rev of a model? The iPhone 8 should be 2018. I am sure there will be some 10 yr anniv. surprise but it will be probably some color change they make a limited QTY of. Look at how many people are going nuts over the JB's.

Major change will be 2018.

Nah.

This years is essentially a 6SS*, so it's clear they're willing to change the formula.

Equally, no way will they re-use the same form factor for a fourth year.

*Not a criticism. I'm getting a 7 Plus.

 

[cambookpro]

There's no smoke without fire. Rumours are getting more and more accurate further and further out as the complexity and size of the supply chain increases - the more subtle antenna bands, waterproofing and lack of 3.5mm jack on the iPhone 7 were all known about in December 2015. Of course some rumours are going to be wrong (I don't think we'll be seeing iris scanning, for instance) but this 'drastic redesign' one seems very, very persistent, and from multiple sources.

I'm sure the 7 is a great phone and people who buy it will love it, but there's nothing there that tempts me to spend the £450 or so it would cost to upgrade from my 6+, especially considering the price hike here. With a new MacBook Pro on the horizon, I'll save my money for the 8 next year.

 

[MrXiro]

I'll just tell you what I told someone else on reddit who asked.

I consider the camera bump and antenna lines on the 6/6+ to be fugly. Apple didn't change any of that with the 6s/6s+. Still fugly.

Apple doubled down on the camera bump size with the 7. Double fugly. And they did not change how the phone looks. No sale.

But Apple changed the look of the phone with the 3G. They changed it with the 4. They changed it with the 5. And they changed it again with the 6. The 7 is the third iteration of the ugly 6 series even though Apple calls it the 7.

If they do NOT change it next year I will be either wait again or be looking for a different phone manufacturer. I skipped the entire 4/4s series because I hate the look of that phone.

I buy based on looks and I do not like the looks of the 6-7 series. I have a 6s+, but that's because of circumstance not because I really wanted the phone.

Conversely though, based on your argument that because Apple never confirms anything, we then have to assume that the look of the phone will NEVER change ever again. I mean there is zero confirmation from Apple that the iPhone of 2020 or 2032 or 2045 or beyond will look ANY different than the iPhone 7.

So, if there is no confirmation that they will change the look there is also no confirmation that they won't.

The 7 is more of a stop gap model. Since this is usually the year of a redesign but next year is the 10 year anniversary of the iPhone they're doing it next year. I don't LOVE the design on the 6-7 iPhone, it isn't awful just not as pretty as a typical Apple product... the Plus model is a little beastly though. While I'm disappointed the 7 isn't new and sexy looking I totally see why they're holding off this year.

The dual camera is essentially a beta product as is the Touch ID/Home spot for future version that will be way better possibly perfected in the way they're looking for.
Just as the 5s & 6 had slow Touch IDs I'm sure there will be new distinct features to the 2017 iPhone.