developers need to update applications so they can support force click, so just be patient until those apps get updated which should be soon.
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Force Touch: does it actually click?
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developers need to update applications so they can support force click, so just be patient until those apps get updated which should be soon.
I have one - picked it up yesterday. It's weird. Feels for all the world like a click but apparently it's not. I like the fact that there is not the same movement as there is in my Air.
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I'm out just now but I'll check the drag thingy when I get home later today.
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I'm out just now but I'll check the drag thingy when I get home later today.
its a great way for apple to start "forcing" me to use safari.
such a great feature so far. pretty cool when you click on a date the calendar pops up, or clicking on a name will show their wiki
I can confirm it is gone.
I got the 13" MacBook Pro yesterday and spent probably a few mins looking over every cm of the trackpad options and it is...GONE!
You need to "force click" with one finger and then drag what you want to drag around...I don't like it personally...I wish they would bring 3 finger drag back!
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Yes, it still clicks and I noticed NO DIFFERENCE between the old trackpad and this new one in relation to the clicking. That vibrating tech is something AWESOME I will tell you that. If someone put a blindfold on you and asked to tell the difference between the new MacBook Pro trackpad and the previous gen you would not be able to tell which was which. I was/am very impressed.
hated the new trackpad....
I realize "hate" is a strong word, but it sums up my experience at the Apple Store today. I spent 20 minutes playing with the "force touch" and "haptic feedback" and it left me feeling frustrated. I use my rMBP with "tap to click" enabled, but I also push down to click my trackpad quite often. The newer trackpads felt way too stiff.
The problem is that the simulated clicking is not as satisfying as the real thing. You find yourself trying to click harder, only to realize that youʻre pushing past the regular click, into "force touch" territory. (Yes, I tried all the various sensitivity settings.) And this leaves you with a weird sensation because pushing past the "regular" click point feels unsatisfactory, and then you suddenly realize itʻs "clicking" as part of the force touch feature. Why Apple decided in their infinite wisdom to add this to the Pro line, when it was developed for an ultra thin laptop is anybodyʻs guess. I think it wouldʻve been better to give consumers the option of having the older style trackpad or newer, when purchasing a new laptop.
At this moment Iʻm really glad to have my good ʻol, trusty, regular trackpad. I think re-engineering everything to be THIN THIN THIN is fine for the ultra portables, but lets hope Apple is smart enough to leave well enough alone in their Pro line. Even though a Retina 15" is supposed to be a thin laptop, one of the reasons I enjoy typing on it more than the Airs Iʻve owned is that vertical key travel is so much more satisfying. That combined with the trackpad is what makes my Mac a joy to use. Iʻm hoping Apple doesnʻt mess with this recipe too much.
I realize "hate" is a strong word, but it sums up my experience at the Apple Store today. I spent 20 minutes playing with the "force touch" and "haptic feedback" and it left me feeling frustrated. I use my rMBP with "tap to click" enabled, but I also push down to click my trackpad quite often. The newer trackpads felt way too stiff.
The problem is that the simulated clicking is not as satisfying as the real thing. You find yourself trying to click harder, only to realize that youʻre pushing past the regular click, into "force touch" territory. (Yes, I tried all the various sensitivity settings.) And this leaves you with a weird sensation because pushing past the "regular" click point feels unsatisfactory, and then you suddenly realize itʻs "clicking" as part of the force touch feature. Why Apple decided in their infinite wisdom to add this to the Pro line, when it was developed for an ultra thin laptop is anybodyʻs guess. I think it wouldʻve been better to give consumers the option of having the older style trackpad or newer, when purchasing a new laptop.
At this moment Iʻm really glad to have my good ʻol, trusty, regular trackpad. I think re-engineering everything to be THIN THIN THIN is fine for the ultra portables, but lets hope Apple is smart enough to leave well enough alone in their Pro line. Even though a Retina 15" is supposed to be a thin laptop, one of the reasons I enjoy typing on it more than the Airs Iʻve owned is that vertical key travel is so much more satisfying. That combined with the trackpad is what makes my Mac a joy to use. Iʻm hoping Apple doesnʻt mess with this recipe too much.
Which click pressure setting did you have the trackpad set at? If you set it at "firm", it honestly feels just about the same as the old macbook physical click. But if its at medium or light, it doesn't feel quite the same.
Yes, itʻs interesting alright. I tried the new trackpad on all the various settings and I disliked it. Itʻs close, but marketing is not going to sway me on this one. The electromagnets are good, but a lacking substitute to a simple clicking mechanism. The thing is, if "force touch" trackpads are going to be the only option going forward, I know itʻs something Iʻll slowly become accustomed to. I just have no liking for it at the moment. And I honestly do wish consumers had an option to have it or not. I mean the mouse hasnʻt really changed for over 30 years. Iʻd like to keep my current trackpad a while longer.
3 finger drag is available with force touch trackpad:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/27803693#27803693
https://discussions.apple.com/message/27803693#27803693
I may just 'upgrade' to a refurb 2014 rMBP if one of my machine's die if Apple does the stupid and not only go to a clickless trackpad, but also a dreaded 'no-travel' keyboard like the Retina Macbook all for the sake of 'THIN THIN THIN!'. Butterfly switches, my ass, if the keys have no travel. It's the reason why I sold my MBA and went rMBP, it's the only modern macbook that has decent key travel left.
hahaha.... Youʻre right...what good are "butterfly switches" if the keys have no travel? This type of keyboard should strictly be kept in their MacBook line.
Vertical key travel is one of the main reasons why I switched from an Air to a Pro.
I tried it out at the local Apple Store this weekend and I really liked the new trackpad. Force touch is a very neat concept that makes a lot of things easier (such as selection text or moving windows).
As to the click the vibration feedback feels jus like the real thing to me. However, I really don't care about the click on the previous trackpad so I see myself disabling the haptic feedback for clicks.
As to the click the vibration feedback feels jus like the real thing to me. However, I really don't care about the click on the previous trackpad so I see myself disabling the haptic feedback for clicks.
Tested it out this morning at the Eaton Centre Apple Store with my 2 daughters.
Had we not know this was not a mechanical click we would have been totally fooled. The two different forces of click are completely convincing... it's like pushing a camera shutter where the a light push focusses and a heavier push takes the picture. And it works anywhere on the track pad. This is a nice innovation and presumably will be more durable in the long run as well.
Had we not know this was not a mechanical click we would have been totally fooled. The two different forces of click are completely convincing... it's like pushing a camera shutter where the a light push focusses and a heavier push takes the picture. And it works anywhere on the track pad. This is a nice innovation and presumably will be more durable in the long run as well.
I disagree, there are times it is close but there are other times it is nowhere near the sound and feel of a traditional macbook pro trackpad. It is not consistent, I found it annoying and I definitely will buy the Macbook Pro 15 in. before it is replaced with this Force Trackpad.
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I totally agree and wonder whether all of these online professional reviewers are conning the public by writing how you can't tell the difference. There were times even when the trackpad cursor did not move smoothly.
I would say it's more likely that your experiences are atypical, or that you're just not going to be satisfied because you're averse to change. That the cursor wasn't moving smoothly for you at times, or that the click experience was inconsistent, makes me wonder if there wasn't something else wrong that was marring the experience for you. I've had the new rMBP since Sunday, and the trackpad is virtually indistinguishable from the one on my MBA, or my wife's rMBP (2012).
No, it does not actually click. However, the trackpad is very nice. It has a different feel that the older models. The "click" reminds me of a camera just as others have mentioned here. If you press lightly on a camera it will adjust and focus. A "light click" here is that same level of pressure. If you press harder the camera will actually take the photos. Here, if you press harder you would be doing a force click. I personally have been using it a lot. Especially when previewing links and searching for stuff on Wikipedia. It will be fantastic when more places add the feature. I am usually a separate non-apple bluetooh mouse user, but I have been using the trackpad more. Change is not easily accepted, but this is a change that I really do enjoy.
It really is a surreal (ok maybe a bit of hyperbole) when you press the trackpad and you're dead certain that's being compressed. It's a great bit of engineering.
One question. On my old machine i used to have the trackpad set up so that i could either do a two finger click or click in the bottom right, to do a right click, however i can't seem to get this to work on the new machine. Any ideas where I'm going wrong? I've looked in the settings on both machines and they seem to match up, but functionality doesn't
One question. On my old machine i used to have the trackpad set up so that i could either do a two finger click or click in the bottom right, to do a right click, however i can't seem to get this to work on the new machine. Any ideas where I'm going wrong? I've looked in the settings on both machines and they seem to match up, but functionality doesn't
I'm going to take the opposite approach and recommend the apple displays.
Built in camera, thunderbolt connectivity (that acts like a docking station) and the ability to daisy chain the monitors together is fantastic.
Yes, more pixels is nice, but unless you are going to be working with 4k video and have the need for the additional pixels, I'd go with a pair of 27" apple displays.
We have to assume at some point apple will update the displays, but the current gens still have a lot of display room. It is a significant upgrade from a 1080p monitor (or something of the sort).
Built in camera, thunderbolt connectivity (that acts like a docking station) and the ability to daisy chain the monitors together is fantastic.
Yes, more pixels is nice, but unless you are going to be working with 4k video and have the need for the additional pixels, I'd go with a pair of 27" apple displays.
We have to assume at some point apple will update the displays, but the current gens still have a lot of display room. It is a significant upgrade from a 1080p monitor (or something of the sort).
I'll say this much: the new trackpad does feel different, and I am able to tell the difference between my old MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro that has now replaced it.
But, here's the rub: I prefer the feel of the new trackpad. To me, it feels MORE consistent and smoother than the old trackpad. Then again, I had/have a tendency to want to be able to click anywhere, and oftentimes I'd get annoyed when a click near the top wouldn't work as well for me.
And to me it does "feel" and sound like a mechanical click. If I had never been told that electromagnets are simulating the feel and sounds of mechanical movement, I wouldn't have guessed. I'd just assume it's a crisper, more consistent set of mechanical switches underneath. Though I'd wonder why my trackpad isn't registering presses when off, but "moves" when on.
I guess it's a matter of personal preference. For me though, everything, including movement, was very smooth.
I'm with you. It feels great. I love that with the pressure turned down to light I can click it without a sound, too. I never did like tapping all that much, just didn't like making noise when others were around. This is the perfect medium.
Ha, this is actually covered in Apple's support article:
The more I use mine, the less "real" it feels, unfortunately. I love the benefit of being able to click anywhere, but even with the feedback set to maximum, it no longer feels "clicky" enough to me. I guess I'll just have to get used to it.
You can also do a quick double-click and then drag. Only takes one finger and I always thought was a bit easier than using 3 finger drag.
I really love the new Force Touch trackpad it does click but it is very very quiet. It's a little click that reassures you that you actually did press it.