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That just looks like the material of the trackpad bending down under pressure. If you press down the uppermost part of a non-force touch trackpad you'll see that it bends down very similarly as well, even though it shouldn't move at all.

Which brings me to a related problem that hasn't been addressed so far: Take your iPhone and apply a force to the screen. Maybe it's not a problem with more recent iPhones, but on my iPhone 5 this causes the screen to do change color in weird ways at some point. That's just the screen bending, causing the liquid crystals of the screen to change properties. I guess Apple needs to address this as well.

Happens to me on my iPad, too.

If I press too hard, the area around the finger goes haywire—the colours go bonkers.
 
Yeah, reminds me of how Apple copied Nintendo with their motion and touch inputs. Or how Apple stole the design for the iPhone 4 from the Sony Playstation Portable. Are Apple copying Sony by using OLED displays in their watch?

You're a bit confused. Apple did copy people, but it wasn't Nintendo or Sony.

Nintendo's touch input is a low quality single touch screen that generally requires a stylus. This applies to the Wii U's GamePad as well as their mobile products. This type of touch screen has existed for a long time. I know Palm was using it for a long time before Nintendo - I'm sure others were, too.

The company Apple actually took multitouch from was Perspective Pixel.

Not sure in what way Apple "stole the design of the iPhone 4" so I won't comment on that. I don't know enough about the history of OLED to comment on that, either.
 
Again, Apple wants to make sure....

Maybe someone should tell Tim Cook is won't matter how much Apple ramps up production on anything before going public, they will always be short...

For some reason, they just don't want to admit they they have allot of users who buy these... isn't that enough proof ? it seems so to me.
 
Watch this video. At 40 through 47 seconds, you can clearly see the trackpad move. This is what worries me about force touch on a phone. IMO. if the screen moves at all, it will be a crappy experience. Additionally, it will make the phone feel like a cheap, piece of junk.

This sounds like hapadic feedback I had that on a droid incredible and yeah it was annoying and made the phone feel cheap. If force touch does this I sure hope we can opt out of it in setting.
 
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This sounds like hapadic feedback I had that on a droid incredible and yeah it was annoying and made the phone feel cheap. If force touch does this I sure hope we can opt out of it in setting.

About the video. I did the exact same thing when I was at an Apple Store. Since the sensation felt almost exactly like a click. I looked from the side when clicking and it didn't move at all. I felt the vibration but it looked like pressing on glas. Weird that it was so extreme in that video.
 
I think Force Touch is going to open up a whole new world of applications and how we interact with the iPhone, which will mean that if the new iPod Touch doesn't have this tech then it won't be capable of supporting newer apps or existing apps that are enabled to support FT.
I have been debating as to whether to get the iPT or get the new iPhone. Always been more in favour of the iPT but I really think that the iPT is getting left behind. The gap between the iPT and iPhone is being increased by Apple.

If the iPod Touch gets Force Touch will that mean it will change its name to iPod Force Touch? LOL
 
You're a bit confused. Apple did copy people, but it wasn't Nintendo or Sony.

Nintendo's touch input is a low quality single touch screen that generally requires a stylus. This applies to the Wii U's GamePad as well as their mobile products. This type of touch screen has existed for a long time. I know Palm was using it for a long time before Nintendo - I'm sure others were, too.

The company Apple actually took multitouch from was Perspective Pixel.

Not sure in what way Apple "stole the design of the iPhone 4" so I won't comment on that. I don't know enough about the history of OLED to comment on that, either.

Before Nintendo nobody had really used touchscreens for games. The concept was lifted, along with the motion stuff. Both the Wii and DS predate the iPhone. But I really don't care. I merely like to remind fanboys that Apple aren't innocent.

And yes the iPhone 4 (a protruding matte silver material sandwiched between two glossy black plates). Simple design that nobody else had done before the PSP. It's a beautiful design :).

It's quite interesting reading up on how much Nintendo pushed gaming. They had the first wireless controller, the first internet connected console games, the first handhelds that could change games. Then in the 2000's they also kickstarted the "casual game" phenomena. Really ahead of the times those guys.
(one could argue the precision of stylus controls is better as a secondary input than fingers on a touchscreen)
 
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Before Nintendo nobody had really used touchscreens for games. The concept was lifted, along with the motion stuff. Both the Wii and DS predate the iPhone. But I really don't care. I merely like to remind fanboys that Apple aren't innocent.

And yes the iPhone 4 (a protruding matte silver material sandwiched between two glossy black plates). Simple design that nobody else had done before the PSP. It's a beautiful design :).

It's quite interesting reading up on how much Nintendo pushed gaming. They had the first wireless controller, the first internet connected console games, the first handhelds that could change games. Then in the 2000's they also kickstarted the "casual game" phenomena. Really ahead of the times those guys.
(one could argue the precision of stylus controls is better as a secondary input than fingers on a touchscreen)

When Apple revealed the first iPhone, gaming definitely wasn't the focus, but it had the multitouch screen (which, by the way, Nintendo doesn't have. They have lousy single touch screens. Pikmin 3, in particular, has really awkward touch screen controls to get around the fact that it isn't a multitouch screen - lots of extra virtual buttons cluttering the screen that would be replaced with gestures if the Wii U's GamePad was multitouch.)

On the topic of the Wii U, that was Nintendo trying to copy the iPad.

FWIW, I love both Nintendo and Apple. I'm quite familiar with the history of both companies (well, the past ~30 years of Nintendo. I know tidbits of their pre-video game history - no where near as thoroughly as I know their video game history.)
 
Looking forward to this. After a while the iPhone/iOS feels stale.
Is it surprising, ios is basically a UI that doesn't do much but launches apps. 8 years of looking at a grid of icons, with no chance of change any time soon.. Smooth but oh so dull..
 
Before Nintendo nobody had really used touchscreens for games. The concept was lifted, along with the motion stuff. Both the Wii and DS predate the iPhone. But I really don't care. I merely like to remind fanboys that Apple aren't innocent.

And yes the iPhone 4 (a protruding matte silver material sandwiched between two glossy black plates). Simple design that nobody else had done before the PSP. It's a beautiful design :).

It's quite interesting reading up on how much Nintendo pushed gaming. They had the first wireless controller, the first internet connected console games, the first handhelds that could change games. Then in the 2000's they also kickstarted the "casual game" phenomena. Really ahead of the times those guys.
(one could argue the precision of stylus controls is better as a secondary input than fingers on a touchscreen)

Many people do not realize how much of an influence Nintendo has had in the past decade when it comes to videos and technology.
 
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I think Force Touch is going to open up a whole new world of applications and how we interact with the iPhone, which will mean that if the new iPod Touch doesn't have this tech then it won't be capable of supporting newer apps or existing apps that are enabled to support FT.
I have been debating as to whether to get the iPT or get the new iPhone. Always been more in favour of the iPT but I really think that the iPT is getting left behind. The gap between the iPT and iPhone is being increased by Apple.

If the iPod Touch gets Force Touch will that mean it will change its name to iPod Force Touch? LOL

Considering the huge number of non force touch Apple phones out there, including the 6, I think you can be assured that the touch won't feel too much out of date until probably 3 years from now. Considering its low price, that's not much of an issue.
 
??? its been clarified it senses the increase in surface area of your finger to force touch

********, currently using a Force Touch trackpad. It does sense pressure, which makes it double-click. And honestly, beside the fact that it clicks everywhere without moving, it doesn't have any use.
 
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When Apple revealed the first iPhone, gaming definitely wasn't the focus, but it had the multitouch screen (which, by the way, Nintendo doesn't have. They have lousy single touch screens. Pikmin 3, in particular, has really awkward touch screen controls to get around the fact that it isn't a multitouch screen - lots of extra virtual buttons cluttering the screen that would be replaced with gestures if the Wii U's GamePad was multitouch.)

On the topic of the Wii U, that was Nintendo trying to copy the iPad.

FWIW, I love both Nintendo and Apple. I'm quite familiar with the history of both companies (well, the past ~30 years of Nintendo. I know tidbits of their pre-video game history - no where near as thoroughly as I know their video game history.)
A large touchscreen display isn't copying an iPad, that's a fairly common concept. I used to design interfaces for similar things used at museums, art galleries, slate-like objects (granted they were huge and heavy) back in the early 2000's. One might say the iPad copied a standard GPS, what with their large touchscreen displays and minimal buttons.

And yes Nintendo's application is different but the concept the same. Whilst Nintendo uses single-point touchscreens they're a lot more precise. You cater for a 2mm contact size rather than the 5-10mm size for multitouch devices.
 
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But are they going to fix the "refresh" of apps when you switch between apps? (Even if only for 5 seconds which makes it impossible to multitask).
How about fixing making auto correct better? It's absolutely HORRID. The words Iphone comes up with are pathetic and 8/10 times don't even exist. It suggests words that are Totally different from what you want, and often changes the actual grammar! Obviously the people who designed the dictionary don't speak English. :-/

I want to add a picture to this post for auto correct but I need to look at it close up. I don't dare switch to the camera roll becauSe tap a talk will refresh and I might lose this post. So I'll have to edit or make another post to add a pic.

(Yes app refresh is off--and they refresh anyway). Siiiiigh.
 
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Ok can't find edit. This is what I mean about auto correct. It either makes words that don't exist or corrects the CORRECT words to the WRONG words. An $800 phone and they can't fix this? But "force touch" is "way more important". I LOVE iPhone but at this rate I might start to think about going to Android and I HATE android but Apple isn't make this easy.
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Ok can't find edit. This is what I mean about auto correct. It either makes words that don't exist or corrects the CORRECT words to the WRONG words. An $800 phone and they can't fix this? But "force touch" is "way more important". I LOVE iPhone but at this rate I might start to think about going to Android and I HATE android but Apple isn't make this easy.
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Turn off autocorrect then. Bit of a no-brainer.
 
The current iPhone 6 battery now is 1810 mAh I predict Apple to increase the 6s to only 1860 mAh due to force touch and Apple music. So basically it will equate to 0 extra mins extra of battery life. Lol

With die shrinks and OS optimization due to the A9 chip and extra RAM, we could see a slight battery life increase. Personally, I'll still be sticking with the Mophie!

Seriously? Why do you say this? Seems completely tepid to me. Shrug. No matter to me, the technology and design is at a point where I am personally satisfied with what I got; no need to send Cupertino the yearly 600 tax payment this year ;-)

I think the extra RAM with a new processor is probably the largest upgrade to the phone. Force Touch is nice, but I'm not ready to say it's a huge selling point or that it will dramatically change the user experience. The new hardware might finally be able to fully take advantage of the 64bit OS. Also, by all accounts, Apple will be introducing it's largest jump in camera quality in years. I personally was very disappointed with the iPhone 6, but especially the iPhone 6 Plus and it's speed drops.

Can you imagine how great it's going to be now to finally be able to switch seamlessly between apps, and when it's safari, not having to reload multiple tabs?

FYI I'm still rocking an iPhone 5 ;)
 
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