Ford Brings Wireless CarPlay to the 2021 F-150 Pickup

[imola.zhp]

One word: CYBERTRUCK

Several words...
Wont fit in anyone's garage.
Wont ever see the sales numbers of F-Series.
Wont have CarPlay.

Definitely not going to have CarPlay.

BINGO

I ordered some Chinese dongle for wireless CarPlay... hoping it works... if it ever gets here

Let us know

As much as I like the IDEA of wireless CarPlay give me a physical connection anytime because it charges faster. Until wireless charging is as fast as wired its a non-starter.

Interesting, my phone is always on a pad, it rarely drops below 40%. I have several at home, one at work, one in the car, etc. If you would find a more "wireless" experience benefical, you might consider adding a few charging pads to your most frequent places.

 

[simps100]

I ordered some Chinese dongle for wireless CarPlay... hoping it works... if it ever gets here

Using cplay2air dongle in my Ford Fiesta with sync 3.4 to make it wireless CarPlay and it works reasonably well - slight lag with audio but other than that it’s pretty decent!

 

[oneMadRssn]

Interesting, my phone is always on a pad, it rarely drops below 40%. I have several at home, one at work, one in the car, etc. If you would find a more "wireless" experience benefical, you might consider adding a few charging pads to your most frequent places.

Depending on how you do it, this isn't great for your battery.

First, wireless charging causes a lot of excess heat right next to your battery. Batteries hate heat. Charging a battery anyway creates enough heat as it is, but the wireless charging coils create additional heat.

Second, wireless charging is slow. Normally trickle charging is a good thing, but in the case of wireless charging it may be harmful. The charging is interrupted every time you move the phone even slightly or pick it up to use it. So instead of a constant slow charge, the battery cells are getting hammered by frequent short charge/discharge cycles. It's also something batteries hate.

Both these things will degrade the health of your battery if they happen frequently.

I think the slowness causes another issue while driving, as I understand, some of the larger-screen iPhones will actually use more power than wireless charging can supply in certain common driving situations. With the screen on full brightness, GPS, bluetooth, and cellular all working (such as while using a nav app on CarPlay on a sunny day), the phone will be drawing more than 7.5w of power from the battery. Thus, even while wirelessly charging, the battery percentage will still go down slowly.

 

[imola.zhp]

Depending on how you do it, this isn't great for your battery.

First, wireless charging causes a lot of excess heat right next to your battery. Batteries hate heat. Charging a battery with a cord created enough heat as it is, but the wireless charging coils create additional heat.

Second, wireless charging is slow. Normally trickle charging is a good thing, but in the case of wireless charging it may be harmful. The charging is interrupted every time you move the phone even slightly or pick it up to use it. So instead of a constant slow charge, the battery cells are getting hammered by frequent short charge/discharge cycles. It's also something batteries hate.

Both these things will degrade the health of your battery if they happen frequently.

Cool story bro, my XS is coming up on 2 years of age and the health is at 88%. I call that a big WIN compared to two-year old iPhones of the past that did NOT have wireless charging. I charge wirelessly 90% of the time (one vehicle of ours doesn't have a wireless pad).

I think the slowness causes another issue while driving, as I understand, some of the larger-screen iPhones will actually use more power than wireless charging can supply in certain common driving situations. With the screen on full brightness, GPS, bluetooth, and cellular all working (such as while using a nav app on CarPlay on a sunny day), the phone will be drawing more than 7.5w of power from the battery. Thus, even while wirelessly charging, the battery percentage will still go down slowly.

The point of carplay is to not use your phone while driving, the display should be off. Actually, even without carplay, your phone screen should be off. OEM charging pads are not placed where one can see the screen for this reason. If your a passenger, plug in.

 

[Robert.Walter]

But what about nfc car key feature?

 

[imola.zhp]

But what about nfc car key feature?

I think they would have mentioned it, maybe they'll add it to the 2022 and try to get people to upgrade.

 

[44267547]

Wireless CarPlay definitely interests me, even if the F-150 is not specifically what I’m looking for. But at this junction, I think my next daily driver will probably be EV, perhaps a new Mustang Mach-E. Either way, when you start looking at the future of technology, this should start to become the standard in a semi-wireless world.

 

[Johnny907]

Yeah, I don't get it. Trucks and SUV/CUV sales account for something like 70% of ALL car sales in the US. "Car sales" is a misnomer at this point.

I like small cars and hot hatches, I may be SOL.
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PS: Don't like trucks but good to see Ford do something interesting. 700 miles per tank (on the hybrid) would've been crazy talk even 5 years ago.

With the Yaris going bye bye and the Fit on it's way out too, yeah, you're basically SOL in the small car department.

 

[oneMadRssn]

Cool story bro, my XS is coming up on 2 years of age and the health is at 88%.

That's not very good. My 3 year old X is at 96% health, and I've wirelessly charged only a dozen times.

I wouldn't buy a 2 year old iPhone with 88% battery health unless the price was seriously low.

 

[Omicron Theta]

Cool story bro, my XS is coming up on 2 years of age and the health is at 88%. I call that a big WIN compared to two-year old iPhones of the past that did NOT have wireless charging. I charge wirelessly 90% of the time (one vehicle of ours doesn't have a wireless pad).

Same here. Got my XS Max on release day and charge wirelessly 99% of the time and my battery health is still 100%. I’m not a heavy user though.

 

[Johnny907]

I've been kicking around the idea of replacing my +10 year old vehicle recently and have been looking at the '20 F150. Guess I'll just wait until the '21s hit the market.

I would wait for the '21s to drop, even if you end up going with a '20. That brief crossover between the two model years is the best time to get a great deal on the outgoing version. That said, from what I have read the new '21s are huge leap in safety and performance over the previous model. There are a lot of new features standard, but until pricing and build options are announced it's hard to say which will be the better bang for your buck. This new model is attractive but I am going to be holding onto my 2011 F-150 awhile longer because mechanically it is still very sound and unlike these newer trucks I can still wrench on all but maybe 15% of it. These new models, on the other hand, are a totally different beast altogether. If I'm going to give up my wrenching, may as well just wait for the all electric trucks that are due to launch in 2022.

 

[DBZmusicboy01]

Fast forward to...

But the thing is
He was wrong... BUT
Trucks are also used for WORK and not just to go get groceries and stuff
Why spend $50k for a truck when you could get a $20k Corolla ?

 

[kyleh22]

Yeah, I don't get it. Trucks and SUV/CUV sales account for something like 70% of ALL car sales in the US. "Car sales" is a misnomer at this point.

I like small cars and hot hatches, I may be SOL.
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PS: Don't like trucks but good to see Ford do something interesting. 700 miles per tank (on the hybrid) would've been crazy talk even 5 years ago.

I don't need to drive often (walk, bike, public transportation, ride share). When I absolutely have to drive it's because i have a unique need like hauling furniture, going camping, taking my bike somewhere, snowy weather, etc. Trucks are the only vehicle that provide a value I can't get from my normal modes of transport.

 

[CarlJ]

Yeah, I don't get it. Trucks and SUV/CUV sales account for something like 70% of ALL car sales in the US. "Car sales" is a misnomer at this point.

The obsession with gigantomobile compensation devices is distressing, and only doesn't piss me off more because so many even bigger things are going wrong these days. Trucks are stupid, wasteful, a pain to maneuver around, impossible to see through in traffic, and 90% of the people driving them have no good reason, it's just "ooh, big!"

 

[Deliro]

One word: CYBERTRUCK

Don't let any metal balls around it.

 

[eifelbube]

Yeah, I don't get it. Trucks and SUV/CUV sales account for something like 70% of ALL car sales in the US. "Car sales" is a misnomer at this point.

I like small cars and hot hatches, I may be SOL.
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PS: Don't like trucks but good to see Ford do something interesting. 700 miles per tank (on the hybrid) would've been crazy talk even 5 years ago.

How big is the tank?

 

[kegan forbes]

Yeah, I don't get it. Trucks and SUV/CUV sales account for something like 70% of ALL car sales in the US. "Car sales" is a misnomer at this point.

I like small cars and hot hatches, I may be SOL.
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PS: Don't like trucks but good to see Ford do something interesting. 700 miles per tank (on the hybrid) would've been crazy talk even 5 years ago.

honestly I’m not surprised that the hybrid is expected to get 700 miles per tank as that has been a possibility for a while now on the f150. Both my 17 and my dads 16 can get about 750 per tank on long highway drives. And both are the 3.5tt. Mine is also the crew cab with 6.5’ bed

 

[S.B.G]

Yeah, I don't get it. Trucks and SUV/CUV sales account for something like 70% of ALL car sales in the US. "Car sales" is a misnomer at this point.

I like small cars and hot hatches, I may be SOL.

I like trucks, but I like cars even more. I am very disappointed in the Big 3 eliminating cars from their lineups.

I was talking to my Lincoln salesman the other day about getting a new MKZ before they cease production forever and I told him that SUV's are just station wagon's with lift kits on them. They may be nice and practical, but they're not really for me.

I watched the Ford event last night and the new F-150 has a lot of cool features that will be practical for sure. I owned two F-150's in the past and I liked them a lot.

 

[DakotaGuy]

The obsession with gigantomobile compensation devices is distressing, and only doesn't piss me off more because so many even bigger things are going wrong these days. Trucks are stupid, wasteful, a pain to maneuver around, impossible to see through in traffic, and 90% of the people driving them have no good reason, it's just "ooh, big!"

You don’t have to buy a truck as big as an F-150 to get similar capabilities, but with easy maneuvering and more efficiency. I just got a new midsized Ford Ranger last year and it has a lot of capability in an easier to manage size. Nothing about it is stupid.

 

[mattspace]

But the thing is
He was wrong... BUT
Trucks are also used for WORK and not just to go get groceries and stuff
Why spend $50k for a truck when you could get a $20k Corolla ?

Utility and versatility is a basic desirable in a vehicle for most people, and that includes the ability to use a vehicle for both work, and domestic life.

Steve Jobs was a multi-bilionaire who drove a Mercedes sports car that he upgraded every 6 months. He had no conception of what "normal" people wanted from a vehicle.
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PS: Don't like trucks but good to see Ford do something interesting. 700 miles per tank (on the hybrid) would've been crazy talk even 5 years ago.

Where Ford displayed an interesting take a couple of years back, was the idea that the truck's engine would also be an on-site generator, so you drive to an unpowered worksite, take your welder out, and plug into a high-power outlet infrastructure built into the car, and then get to work, rather than needing a dedicated generator etc.

 

[xpxp2002]

But what about nfc car key feature?

Based on how long it took from CarPlay coming out with iOS 7 to make it into most mainstream vehicles 5-6 years later, and the same for wireless CarPlay in iOS 9 finally showing up in 2021 vehicles, I’d say 2025...

 

[lovehateapple]

I'm way more interested in the CarKey feature than wireless CarPlay. Looking forward to the day when more new cars have CarKey.

 

[damphoose]

Tethered CarPlay is WHACK imo

I like the interface but was shocked to see it put to use requiring it be hooked up, feels like a regression experience wise no matter the technical explanation

That makes it a bit inferior to my bluetooth equipped (non-carplay) vehicle that is always wireless

Carplay always had bluetooth audio. Only need wired for non bluetooth app functions (like Album art or text messages or maps).

 

[vpndev]

Wireless CarPlay is cool. Phone in pocket, get into car, drive.

There is no "next".

BMW 5-series for the past few years.

I guess all the other guys are waiting for people to invent electrons.

Trump would say that's "sad". Your opinion might be different, especially as regards the timeline
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As much as I like the IDEA of wireless CarPlay give me a physical connection anytime because it charges faster. Until wireless charging is as fast as wired its a non-starter.
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Meh, the wallpapers are just MEH.
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Slower charging is whack esp in today's giant battery phones.

How long is your commute if you have to charge? My iPhone gets charged overnight, and that's all. If you want "charges faster" then get a new phone.

 

[TantalizedMind]

I've been kicking around the idea of replacing my +10 year old vehicle recently and have been looking at the '20 F150. Guess I'll just wait until the '21s hit the market.

Im jealous. Enjoy!
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That's not very good. My 3 year old X is at 96% health, and I've wirelessly charged only a dozen times.

I wouldn't buy a 2 year old iPhone with 88% battery health unless the price was seriously low.

Well you’re definitely not a power user. hehe