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Formac Gallery 2010?

Re: Re: Gallery 2010 - REVIEW

Originally posted by dukestreet


Sounds great, congrats! I'm going to be very interested to see if Apple does anything to revamp its line of LCDs soon - these new monitors from Formac are definitely going to up the ante....I'll be looking at buying a pair of them when I get my new system next year.

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Apple will no doubt have some more beautiful displays coming out soon. I'm curious to see the supposedly new 19" widescreen. Two of those would be sweet. One thing is for certain, by next year you will have some good choices as the manufacturing costs of LCD's are supposed to be coming way down. Samsung, which manufactures Apple's LCD portion of their displays has created a new technique for making them cheaper. I'm sure Fujitsu is doing the same. It won't be long until 24" or 26" will be about $1500. I would say in 2004.

Also, since getting my Formac 2010 I went back to Compusa and looked at the Cinema 22. The Cinema is definitely not as bright and the colors not as vibrant. And you can easily see the response time difference by dragging a window around quickly. The Formac is very fast. I played some high res quicktimes on it the other night and there is absolutely no ghosting or lag. However with the widescreen ratio of the Cinema text is just a little bit bigger and easier to read which is an advantage for some people.

But yeah, two 2010's would be fantastic. I might get the 1740 with color calibrator next. I've been using dual displays for 5 years and it's hard getting used to one display, even if it is 1600x1200. I just like having all of my illustrator and flash palettes on one screen and art on the left. One screen is still not enough to accomodate Macromedia's terrible Flash MX interface. But that's off topic.

--andrew
 
just got my DVI Gallery 2010 in and i agree with the rest here thats its incredible. true 1600x1200 res is sick and I'm not even thinking about a second monitor.

Now I just need a dr. bott DVI extender cause the 1.5 meter cable is not long enought to reach my Power Mac. But that problem will be solved when the cable arrives on friday

Tyler
 
Originally posted by TyleRomeo
just got my DVI Gallery 2010 in and i agree with the rest here thats its incredible. true 1600x1200 res is sick and I'm not even thinking about a second monitor.

Now I just need a dr. bott DVI extender cause the 1.5 meter cable is not long enought to reach my Power Mac. But that problem will be solved when the cable arrives on friday

Tyler
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Tyler,

Are you using the default formacTFT2010 color profile? I tried making a new color profile using the calibrate tool and set the gamma to 2.2 (windows) since I design websites for the windows majority. I know it's all a matter of preference. With the mac gamma it's almost too bright to me, but still excellent.

What do you think of the text at 1600x1200?
 
Originally posted by andrewh



Tyler,

Are you using the default formacTFT2010 color profile? I tried making a new color profile using the calibrate tool and set the gamma to 2.2 (windows) since I design websites for the windows majority. I know it's all a matter of preference. With the mac gamma it's almost too bright to me, but still excellent.

What do you think of the text at 1600x1200?
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I actually did the same as you, i changed it from 1.8 to 2.2, this monitor is so bright!!!!!! I don't think it makes a huge difference either way, the picture is crisp, sharp and beautiful with everyones personal touches on it.

As for the native res.......Im getting used to it, the reason why this montitor cost as much as it does is becuase of its native 1600x1200 res. otherwise we'd pay a couple hundered less if it was 1280x1024. I adjusted the size of files in itunes and the font in ichat and slightly increased folder size and font size. But i can't complain. FCP and other programs never looked so beautiful. Who needs a second monitor with the 2010? I payed so much for this monitor becuase it would be adiquate for my projects with only one monitor. I dont have the desk room for two Appple 17s. When my DVI extension cable comes, i'll let you know how it effects or better yet doesnt effect the image quality.

tyler
 
Everyone is saying how bright and crisp it is, but what really concerns me is the 1600x1200 @ the 20.1".

Is this just a little too small for that res? I would love extra screen space, but not at the expense of it being unconfortable...
 
Originally posted by javajedi
Everyone is saying how bright and crisp it is, but what really concerns me is the 1600x1200 @ the 20.1".

Is this just a little too small for that res? I would love extra screen space, but not at the expense of it being unconfortable...
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Trust me, you get used to it pretty quickly. All my friends think the monitor is bigger then 20.1 becuase of its incredibile res. I'm a little bummed since I discovered one dead pixel. But its alot better than having upto 10 on the Mac LCDs.

Tyler
 
Originally posted by javajedi
Everyone is saying how bright and crisp it is, but what really concerns me is the 1600x1200 @ the 20.1".

Is this just a little too small for that res? I would love extra screen space, but not at the expense of it being unconfortable...
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My friend has an Alienware laptop. The screen is 15inch but the res is 1600x1200, it looks fine.
 
I NEED a 2010!!!

So I thought of upgrading and bought a Samsung 18.1. Before it arrived the wife says, you should get something that looks nicer... *whatever you say honey!*
So I looked and found the 2010 and I know I NEED one bad. But it's on massive backorder again! Talked to Formac and they said 2nd week in December.
So now I have a Samsung 181T sealed in the box tempting me to use it, but waiting for an RMA to return it. And the dream of a 2010 that won't be available for at least two weeks at best!
Should I just wait and get this alegedly amzing chunk of LCD or just settle for the 18.1 Samsung?
My Apple 15" DVI LCD feels less and less cooler every day...
 
Originally posted by TyleRomeo


Trust me, you get used to it pretty quickly. All my friends think the monitor is bigger then 20.1 becuase of its incredibile res. I'm a little bummed since I discovered one dead pixel. But its alot better than having upto 10 on the Mac LCDs.

Tyler
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One dead pixel only? Well, on large LCDs you are lucky if you only
have 1 dead pixel. Well, Im glad you like your monitor. You shouldn't
have looked for that dead pixel, because now your gunna see it every time youget close to the monitor. Youur eyes will just go to
it without thinking, and eventually you will hate your monitor.
That's whe you give it to me. Right?

Right? :confused: ;) :D
 
I LOVE the 2010!!!

I got a Formac 2010 display...and it went bad within five hours. Sent it back, no problem...they gave it a new video board and returned it to me. Now it works fine.

This display ROCKS! It is the sharpest and brightest display with an amazing viewing angle unrivaled by most LCD's. It's also rivals Apple's cinema displays for color accuracy. You can achieve true pantone color calibration with the Formac. Not so with the Apple Cinema display.

I find that the more square proportions of the display give it more USEABLE work space than the wide propportions of a 22" cinema display. That's important. You still can't have a full-sized spread and still have room for your pallets...but that's okay. it's a world better than the 21" Apple CRT I've been using for years. You get a true 20 inches of screen. And the nice thing about this monitor is that for $800 LESS than the 22 inch Apple display...this puppy is HIGH DEFINITION. The 22" monitor isn't. The 23" display is...but I haven't had a chance to use it, or read up on its color properties.

I highly recommend the Formac 2010. Also...yes, it handles full-motion video beautifully.

I am using it on a new G4 Macintosh, Dual 867 MhZ running OS X.2.2

My only regret is that I haven't the funds to buy one for the house!

Regards,
Gravity
 
Originally posted by scem0


One dead pixel only? Well, on large LCDs you are lucky if you only
have 1 dead pixel. Well, Im glad you like your monitor. You shouldn't
have looked for that dead pixel, because now your gunna see it every time youget close to the monitor. Youur eyes will just go to
it without thinking, and eventually you will hate your monitor.
That's whe you give it to me. Right?
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umm, i'll think about it, one dead pixel isnt the end of the world. i do notice it ocasionally but then i realize that i have 20.1 LCD and i tell my self to shut up and stop being a baby.

Tyler
 
Originally posted by Computer_Phreak
ive heard that by gently rubbing the dead pixel, it has the possiblity of becoming better again...
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how much rubbing do i have to do here?

and how do i focus on just rubbing one pixel?

tyler
 
just *gently* rub the dead pixel for maybe 10 or 15 seconds and reboot (or turn the monitor off and back on)... i've heard a lot of people fix dead pixels this way. it wont work on factory defective pixels, but if it worked and then went dead, you have a chance... hope it works, don't be too upset if it doesnt tho :)

pnw
 
Originally posted by javajedi
Everyone is saying how bright and crisp it is, but what really concerns me is the 1600x1200 @ the 20.1".

Is this just a little too small for that res? I would love extra screen space, but not at the expense of it being unconfortable...
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it actually depends on your vision, many find the tibook and ibook ok 12.1 1024x768 etc.
I use a 19.8 viewable sony trinitron fd at 1600x1200 75% of the time, mostly in os9 using smooth type and its great, sometimes i take it up to 2048x1536 which is rather small when working in cubase.
i find 1600x1024 to be the probably the best on my monitor
and of course down to 640x480for games and 800X600 for dvds
One question I have is how do this large lcds handle different resolutions and were any pixels out i would hate to have even one pixel out for $2000
i am also so wondering if anyone makes a protective shield to prevent the young ones from damaging the screen .
Maybe when these get down to $500-$1000 in about a year i might go for one they sound great though
 
Rub it harder...

Rubbing has never worked for me. I have one on my 15" LCD and one on my iBook. Fortunately they are not dead center and not dead, just a wrong color. But thay are light and I don't really even remember unless I'm reading something about dead pixels on LCD's...;)
 
G4 400 and Formac LCD display?

I have a first generation g4 with a 400 mghz processor.

What card/type/ of Formac display should I order? The ACI or DVI?

What card do I need to install on my g4 to be able to use this lcd moniter?
or two of them together preferably?
 
Re: G4 400 and Formac LCD display?

Originally posted by NYCFarmboy
I have a first generation g4 with a 400 mghz processor.

What card/type/ of Formac display should I order? The ACI or DVI?

What card do I need to install on my g4 to be able to use this lcd moniter?
or two of them together preferably?
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ADC will not work with your machine because the motherboard was not designed for it. Any card you get needs to have DVI (pretty much any Radeon or better from ATI). As far as the monitor goes, the DVI version may no longer be available. I think they are going to FDC (Formac Display Connector), wich has both connections, on all the monitors. Some retailers list these as ADC, but in the description it says DVI+ADC.
Short: You need a card that can handle 1600x1200 res with DVI. And you need to get a Monitor that *has* DVI input, wether it's *labeled* DVI or not (read the specs). I hope that helps.
 
Some questions concerning the 2010

Hey guys,

I am a dv editor and the Gallery 2010 (or whatever formac comes out with) is something im leaning towards when I get a new Power Mac sometime in the future. I especially like it for its sweet specs and awesome warranty by formac. I heard the 1740 is made in germany, where is the 2010 made? And for editing in FCP and working with dv, it is a lot nicer working with a widescreen such as the HD and the 22 Cinema Displays but how you do you guys think of a traditional 4:3? And also, any criticism on this display? I see it is very nice but some users may have different opinions, thanks.

-Phong

Happy Holidays :p
 
Re: Some questions concerning the 2010

Originally posted by phong
Hey guys,

I am a dv editor and the Gallery 2010 (or whatever formac comes out with) is something im leaning towards when I get a new Power Mac sometime in the future. I especially like it for its sweet specs and awesome warranty by formac. I heard the 1740 is made in germany, where is the 2010 made? And for editing in FCP and working with dv, it is a lot nicer working with a widescreen such as the HD and the 22 Cinema Displays but how you do you guys think of a traditional 4:3? And also, any criticism on this display? I see it is very nice but some users may have different opinions, thanks.

-Phong

Happy Holidays :p
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The writing on the box was in English and German so it was either assembled or distributed through their Germany facilities. But since the 1740 was made there I would think the 2010 was too. I've already reviewed it here with nothing but high praise for it. If you're doing DV and can afford the Cinema I would buy that one. I do web design and the 4:3 ratio is just fine for me, plus I liked saving $800. I've used my gallery 2010 for over a month now and one look at the Cinema and I can tell the Formac is better. Much brighter, and the colors are just slightly more vibrant. I have zero dead pixels so far.

The Apple Cinema has nicer quality casing and is still a fantastic display, it just needs an update which is probably coming at Macworld. If they come out with the rumored swivel base (a la iMac) and update the specs that will be a tough choice. I got sick of waiting however. Anyway, as long as the Formac is cheaper it is an excellent choice, in my opinion the only other choice besides Apple and I researched a TON of displays.
 
slightly of subject, i know

My biege g3 upgraded to 600\240\83bus 7410 g4 overclocked with 768 of pc100 222 ram is running the OSX desktop GUI faster than a dual 1GHZ Powermac g4, I kid you not.resizing windows and dragging are now instaneous and you can twirl a window around without the cursor losing contact at 1600x1200 85hz and 2048x1536 75hz mind you! this along with virtual desktop http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/2287 gives negates the need for dual monitors I wonder how this looks on a Large lcd, let me know. www.aquamakeover.com/aqua.html
Once Apple finds out they will have to take it down so hurry.
I am now using Cubase in 9.22 my Yamaha dspfactory sound card and all my plugins and my voodoo 5500 video card not to mention my serial midi interfaces and stylewriter 1200 printer are all compatable now.
Thats a lot lot of money to replace in OSX.

Please try these and let me know what you think????????
I know you Jag only for Jag OSX only programs and there are alot.
there is also a program called os9forever that helps really old macs run 9.2, did not need that though.

slightly off subject I know.
to compare g4 to old g3 {not sahara}just cut of altivec support
 
new purchase

I've just ordered a Sony X72 17" DVI TFT with built in 200Mhtz processor just for redraw - I can't wait to get it. All for £420 UK pounds!!

H
 
Formac just set up...FANTASTIC!

Just set up my new Formac 2010 display.

I'm using it on a first generation G4 with a 400 processor. So I had to order a new graphic card to be able to use the moniter.

I chose a Radeon 9000 pro mac 64 mb card. Installed very easily.

Hooked up the Formac 2010 to it. Worked perfectly! After hooking up the moniter and starting up the computer I installed the software which came with the graphics card.

Notes: WOW....the display area is HUGE compared to my old 21" crt. I was considering going with two moniters. Cannot quite view two webpages at one time, so perhaps one day I will add another moniter, but so far I'm VERY pleased with the Formac! Colors are fantastic. Brightness is fantastic. Contrast is great. and if there is a dead pixal somewhere on it, I do not see it yet!

My two nitpicks: 1. don't like the "display on" light. seems to shine right into my eye. 2. The angle of the display is tilted too far back (but easily fixed by propping the 3rd leg of the moniter up with a book etc.).

All in all..I'm thrilled with it, and for the price..wow!
 
Re: Formac just set up...FANTASTIC!

Originally posted by NYCFarmboy


My two nitpicks: 1. don't like the "display on" light. seems to shine right into my eye. 2. The angle of the display is tilted too far back (but easily fixed by propping the 3rd leg of the moniter up with a book etc.).

All in all..I'm thrilled with it, and for the price..wow!
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Maybe you could drop a note to Formac about the display and a swivel or tilt stand. I'm sure everyone that purchases the display would appreciate it.
 
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