You can easily unpair your watch from your phone and account to ‘lend’ it to someone, and you can set up a 6 digit pin code to unlock the Apple Watch, now seeing as most banks have used 4 digit pins for years and years and never changed that, I think it’s more then secure enough.
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You can easily unpair your watch from your phone and account to ‘lend’ it to someone, and you can set up a 6 digit pin code to unlock the Apple Watch, now seeing as most banks have used 4 digit pins for years and years and never changed that, I think it’s more then secure enough.
Last time I read about it, you were allowed a 10 digit pin on the Apple Watch. If that's easy to guess then you must be using "0123456789" lol. Not that that matters - you have to unlock the Watch for it to work. So you'd hand your Watch to someone and then unlock it. Without a PIN, Apple Pay doesn't work anyway - so you could just turn the PIN off and then your friend can't use Apple Pay.
The reason for the "if you're gonna do this" statements isn't to say you're wrong - it's to illustrate why this function does not exist, and will most likely not exist for a while. The device already contains access to all of your sensitive data, and you will be handing it over unlocked. To expect security in a situation where you've handed over your device and data isn't reasonable. You can absolutely do it if you want. And you can absolutely ask for it. But don't be surprised when people say "That probably won't happen for a while, and this is the reason why".
Trusting someone with your mechanical Watch is absolutely different to your Wallet. But you wouldn't trust your smart phone to someone who you'd be worried about making a purchase. The Watch is an extension of the smart phone. Apple Pay IS protected because the Watch is locked until you put in the PIN.
You don't get to hand your house keys to someone and expect privacy. Handing over and unlocked Apple Watch to someone and expecting to somehow still be protected isn't reasonable.
Don't complain about off-topic. You posted and people are answering your post.
After spending a considerable amount of time minimizing the AW since it’s introduction I apologize. I have had my Series 4 44mm Aluminum GPS for a very short period (purchased for the ECG) and I am simply amazed by it’s utility, customization, intuitive OS, and just plain “make my day easier” attitude. I now understand the appeal of this amazing little computer.
I’m feeling this may become my favorite Apple Device. Time will tell.
Once again, I repent.
I like this post, because people rarely can admit when they misjudged something (and we all do it sometimes). Yes, the Apple Watch is a great device, and it is one of my favorite Apple devices ever. Once you tweak it out, it's amazing how much useful information you have access to all the time. I also love the way it looks and the incredible ease of accessorizing it with bands.
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I didn't perceive judgment from the responses to your original post. People assumed you wouldn't want to share your watch because it's not really designed for that (for the reasons they mentioned and because it ordinarily is highly customized by individual users (for example, with complications specific to one person's needs, fitness tracking that assumes a single user, etc.)), but I wouldn't read judgment into that if your needs differ. A shared watch would be an edge case, though, and it might not make sense to enable Apple Pay and other highly user-specific features in that situation.
This is exactly why I’m on the fence about it. I know I could make use out of it for sports, but I’m too scared to get so hooked on it that it’ll make my mechanical collection obsoleteMostly due to a life long obsession with mechanical time pieces (which I still have and still own) some on the wrist, some in a pocket, some on a wall.
This is exactly why I’m on the fence about it. I know I could make use out of it for sports, but I’m too scared to get so hooked on it that it’ll make my mechanical collection obsolete
Get the stainless steel model and take a chance! If you get hooked (like I did), you may simply find that you don't miss your mechanical watches as much as you thought you would. Or you won't get quite as hooked and will still enjoy breaking those out on occasion. Neither of those is a bad result.
This is exactly why I’m on the fence about it. I know I could make use out of it for sports, but I’m too scared to get so hooked on it that it’ll make my mechanical collection obsolete
No, it will never make your collection obsolete. There is a place for both in the world. I can see that now. I just needed outside intervention to get there.
No, it will never make your collection obsolete. There is a place for both in the world. I can see that now. I just needed outside intervention to get there.
For me, the Watch adds value to my fitness but not my time keeping. If someone was a mechanical Watch user then I can see a good argument for going for a run with the Apple Watch and going to work with a mechanical watch.
My situation was the need for the ECG. It was the less invasive of two options for monitoring my AFib. I agree it does not enhance my knowing the time of day. However, I find it’s use allows me to drastically reduce the number of times each day I reach for my iPhone. I’m also really enjoying receiving all my notifications on it. The integration between the watch and phone in the Health App/Activity again allows me to monitor without reaching for my phone. So, while I’m not digging deep into any “workouts” I also see the advantages it provides in tracking my fitness level as well.
PINs are as good as the user, and I'm not the type to make a massive PIN just "because I occasionally will lend my watch".... Not to mention, the comments regarding "that won't happen; this is why" are entirely subjective. Also, your view of security is completely different than mine... so again, subjectivity. Not trying to nitpick, but we have opened it up to that lol
I don't care what the watch was "designed for"..... The AT&T network was designed for the iPhone, but they sell other phones on it, right? Should that mean I buy an iPhone on AT&T just because their network is designed for it? What I do with my watch doesn't have to make sense, or be what the watch was designed for lol. I currently have a smart watch that I use ZERO of the functions it has. Would I use the Apple watch for more than viewing my texts/emails and a few other things? Hell the **** no. Couldn't give a damn about half of the features it has lmfao. My point is, we're jumping the gun on things, and assuming a lot of the end user (aka me).
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. If you are really into watches, I don't see you ditching your traditional timepiecesThis is exactly why I’m on the fence about it. I know I could make use out of it for sports, but I’m too scared to get so hooked on it that it’ll make my mechanical collection obsolete
I have been wearing an Apple Watch every day since the original model launched. I stuck with the Series 0 for as long as I could, but finally upgraded to a cellular Series 4 last year. I have always loved the Apple Watch, but having cellular on it and having it paired with AirPods made it my favorite Apple device ever. 4 years after its launch I still can't believe how many things it can do and how many jobs it can now take over from iPhone. In fact, I often just leave my iPhone at the house if I'm fairly certain I won't need a camera with me for anything. My Apple Watch is my car keys, house keys, credit cards (in most places where I live), iPod, fitness trainer, Twitter browser (via Chirp), remote control, home automation controller, phone, messenger, personal assistant, etc. I've even read web pages and articles on it in a pinch.
Oh, side note--the first day I put the Series 0 on, I weighed 258 lbs. Today I weigh 185 lbs.
Oh, side note--the first day I put the Series 0 on, I weighed 258 lbs. Today I weigh 185 lbs.
The stainless Model in my opinion is the way to go (And I owned the aluminum At one point as another perspective), but why? It just comes down to the weight and aesthetics. The sapphire display is a huge bonus for those who don’t about it. But I suspect most consumers have no idea that the stainless model actually has a sapphire display. If one can look past the horrible resale value with the stainless model, that’s what I would choose. But then again, I don’t care about resale value for my products, I just plan on using them for my enjoyment. I’m not concerned about maximizing the ‘top dollar’ for a smart watch. All tech products depreciate.
I NEVER keep my old Apple products when I upgrade---I usually pass them down to someone or sell them to pay for the upgrade. But I kept my Series 0 Apple Watch--it's in its original box in my dresser at the moment. After trying and trying and trying to lose weight and get healthy, that particular device was what finally made things click for me. I'll keep it forever.
That’s great to hear that The Apple Watch was a companion to help you lose weight. There are a few other members who lost a considerable amount of weight with the help of the Apple Watch, I think that _is_ Apples vision with the watch, is being health oriented moving forward for every update it sees to better ones lifestyle through activity.
As for the stainless model, the Sapphire display is really nice to have, I don’t like screen protectors in general, and it’s a nice perk to have, especially when our wrists are constantly moving/hitting things.
Yep--I'm historically pretty rough on watches, so I agree, though I have never owned one of the sapphire display models. My Series 0 proved to be very durable. It did get one very light scratch on the display when my wife's wedding ring brushed by it, but it was not noticeable unless I was out in really bright sunlight. The space grey casing never got one mark on it. The back where the sensors touch your wrist though--that kind of looked like garbage by the time I retired the watch. The metal casing still looked brand new, but whatever the covering over the sensors was got all scuffed up from going on and off the charger. Not a big deal, but it's crazy to compare it to the back of the Series 4 which looks like something out of a sci fi movie and seems impervious to any wear and tear at all. When I clean it off after a workout or just wipe it down to keep it clean, it always looks shiny and brand new. Not a mark on it whatsoever.
I'm like this with the HomePod and still refuse to get one, lol. Maybe someday when it's more usable. You were probably right to skip the early models. I had Series 0 ordered at launch and it was a piece of crap compared to the Series 4 I upgraded to being slow with poor battery life and a small display. Even so, the Series 0 helped me to get in shape until the battery made exercise tracking unusable in the final year.
The first GEN watch was a ‘piece of crap’, as a matter fact, it was perfectly executed aside from the battery swelling/slowness loading with the S1 chip, but it did exactly what it needed to be at that time, which was a notification device with basic health features. I mean, there are a plethora of members on here who still are using their first GEN Apple Watch with no issues today. I think that says something where the Apple once was and has transitioned to a very mature device.
I think the original Series 0 should have probably been given another year in the oven, or maybe not launched with as many features. I wore mine every single day from launch day all the way up until launch day of the Series 4 and it served me very well, but it had some serious performance deficiencies when it came to apps, and the battery life was in the toilet by the time watchOS 3 and 4 came out. There are some fantastic apps and utilities for Apple Watch that probably got a bum rap because you could rarely get them to even launch correctly on the original model.
Going from the Series 0 to the Series 4 was like going from a Honda Civic to a Ferrari. I use it for so many more things than I used to. My new favorite is Hole19. I've been using it for golf all summer and it's been really great. Some people have fancy golf-specific GPS watches that cost several hundred dollars in order to get flag distances from anywhere on the course, but I can just use my Apple Watch. It's also been really reliable for all my smart home gadgets like locks, garage door, lights, and various other things.
I have always thought of the iPhone as a kind of digital Swiss Army Knife. I now think of the Apple Watch in the same way, because it's always with me/on me wherever I go, and with cellular, it has almost completely freed me from my phone.
I can't help but think those people didn't wear their watch every single day like I did. The battery wouldn't even make it through the afternoon. Maybe for casual watch wearers it was ok. When you can't even use your watch as a watch after 4pm, it's kind of garbage. Also, let's not kid ourselves, apps would take 30-45 seconds to load—if they would load at all. It was utter trash by today's standards. The original iPhone holds up better than the original Apple Watch.
I wore mine every single day. Battery lasted me until bedtime regularly at first, but deteriorated quickly after about watchOS 2. By the time I stopped wearing it, it was going dead by about 6 pm every day. Part of that was probably related to age of the battery and the fact that I never missed a day wearing it, and part of it was that the Series 0 just couldn't keep up with watchOS anymore.
Yeah, that lines up with everything I'm saying. I was trying to refute the point that the Series 0 was "perfectly executed" like Relentless Power said. My battery was never swolen either. It just sucked. I still have it sitting on the shelves in my studio with my original iPhone and original iPad.
I think there were things it did really well at launch and those should have been the only things it launched with. Workouts, Activity, iMessage, notifications, phone, face widgets (not full apps), Audio controls. Those were the main things I used it for because everything else had too hard of a time launching to be regularly used. Some watchOS updates fixed some of those usability issues later on, but I'm referring more to Series 0 on watchOS 1 for that first year.
I honestly believe that Apple just allowed themselves to get overly eager for that particular launch. They wanted to prove they could bring a new product to market and they knew where the product was heading, but they ended up showing their cards too soon. None of that is to say I didn't love it. I have loved the Apple Watch since day 1, even with all the quirks of that first year, and Apple Watch Series 4 with cellular + AirPods has been a brilliant experience in my use case.
Let's face it... the merits of the Apple Watch were not as clear cut when the first model was released. It needed to mature. It makes sense that many folks didn't "get it" until a few product generations later.
I pre-ordered the Series 0 so I was one of the first to get one. I loved it. But it also had its frustrations. It was slooooow except for core built-in functions, third party apps were barely usable, and the UI was wonky. "Digital touch" and some other heavily-touted features never really made sense in day to day use and were later dropped or deemphasized. The Series 0 was still a great way to handle notifications on the wrist, set timers, use Siri to a limited degree, and track health. But the Series 4 I wear today is a HUGE leap forward from that first model. Same with WatchOS.
However, I will say that Apple's straps and build quality have been absolutely top-notch since day 1. I'm still rockin' the link bracelet I purchased in early 2016.
I pre-ordered the Series 0 so I was one of the first to get one. I loved it. But it also had its frustrations. It was slooooow except for core built-in functions, third party apps were barely usable, and the UI was wonky. "Digital touch" and some other heavily-touted features never really made sense in day to day use and were later dropped or deemphasized. The Series 0 was still a great way to handle notifications on the wrist, set timers, use Siri to a limited degree, and track health. But the Series 4 I wear today is a HUGE leap forward from that first model. Same with WatchOS.
However, I will say that Apple's straps and build quality have been absolutely top-notch since day 1. I'm still rockin' the link bracelet I purchased in early 2016.
For me the original was glacially slow, to the point I didn’t really bother with third party apps it was so frustrating. Series 2 was definitely an improvement, but still seemed underpowered and at times frustrating. Series 3 was the first time I felt what was under the hood matched the elegance of the casing and Apple had nailed it. I barely notice the speed difference between 3/4.
Battery hasn’t been an issue for me since the original cuz I have kept two and swap them between night/day.
Battery hasn’t been an issue for me since the original cuz I have kept two and swap them between night/day.
I didn’t have the original iPhone but remember the 3G/3GS could be painfully slow and I even had overheating problems on the 3GS when I put it under too much strain. The 3GS would barely make it through my workday with a Mophie juice pack, having my work email on it made things really bad.
The 4 was the first iPhone I thought where they nailed it with design, battery and processing power, of course we had antennaegate with that one.
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