Not a fan of the software rental, but I will point out that you get FIVE machine activations with a license. Do with that information what you will.
We had a good business model until Apple killed it, by not handling Paid Upgrades.
For me there are only 2 business models that work: Paid Upgrades and Ads. Let the user chose which works better. As an iOS developer I am not happy with subscriptions, but that is currently the only way I can give my users any privacy. But even with this I have to provide 2 Apps because there is no way to completely disable Ads on the Apple platform.
Obligatory shoutout to Serif for not moving to Subscription for version 2 of the Affinity suite.
You don’t fetch your mails from your mail provider. Instead you use another service that sits in between and stores and manages all mails for you.I'm not sure what that means
Well, wrong concept then.🤦♀️
You guys just don’t get it…… do you……
Running a server to run an app like this is expensive, in addition to getting access to gmail server. One time payment won’t be enough. Subscription make sense for this app.
Also, Apple really is discouraging developers from uploading new version of app as separate and charge users. They are actively encouraging developers to continue updating existing app and switch to subscription model.
Note that rumor is Final Cut Pro for Mac might soon switch to this model also.
Again. Mimestream is a classic mail client, no 3rd party involved, they don't need to pay for mail servers. They use the Google/Gmail API.Well, wrong concept then.
Better take C++, Swift or ObjC and build a decent local working binary instead of server based crutches.
My thoughts EXACTLY!What's the point?
What’s wrong with using Spark Mail app? It’s free and probably has same features, maybe I’m wrong.
Subscription app for a free service.
My thoughts EXACTLY!
Every feature shown is NOTHING new for most existing email clients that have been on the market for over a decade!
‘Categorize with labels’ whoopie.
‘Respond to calendar invites’ 🤣 💀 like really? Is this the best they can do?!
I’m not certain Googles API is the best way to go, or using anyone else’s API that is not a commonly shared protocol (aka ActiveSync for Push emails) as you never know when such a company will restrict access. Anyone recall Twitter API being restricted suddenly and without warning affecting so many 3rd party developers!!??
Focused inbox!
This was garbage when Microsoft first implemented this and it’s still garbage here as well. Some feel like it’ll separate spam and marketing emails but sooner or later it’ll separate critical emails and most will start to miss - especially time sensitive ones.
This is NOT the way! Even if the UI looks appealingly clean. They need to do BETTER!
Frl. This dude is delusional if he thinks I’m going to pay $50/yr to check my damn email.
I bought Mimestream 1.0 at the introductory price of $29 ($32 with taxes). I’ll see how it develops over the next year to see if it merits the annual $50/year subscription. I just prefer a desktop client to the Gmail web interface. Honestly, it was partly to support the developer.Yeah, who the hell does this guy think he is trying to make a living off of software he builds that I was happy using for free!! My right to get the software he built for free should be more important than his right to make an income off of his work!
Yes, this is sarcasm. I've been using Mimestream for a while and just subscribed to the discounted annual option. Good for him for making a good sustainable income from his work as an indie dev allowing him to keep improving the product.
yeah im considering paying for the discounted first year to support them and see what happens since i like the appI bought Mimestream 1.0 at the introductory price of $29 ($32 with taxes). I’ll see how it develops over the next year to see if it merits the annual $50/year subscription. I just prefer a desktop client to the Gmail web interface. Honestly, it was partly to support the developer.
I'm a fan of what Agenda does. Their model lets you use a base version for free, but you can pay to buy premium features that are released over the course of a year. Once that year passes, you KEEP the premium features you paid for, even if you stop paying. If/when more features are added that you like, you can subscribe again to get caught up. It's a nice middle ground between tradition paid releases and software rentals where you're left totally empty-handed the minute you stop renting the software.We had a good business model until Apple killed it, by not handling Paid Upgrades.
For me there are only 2 business models that work: Paid Upgrades and Ads. Let the user chose which works better. As an iOS developer I am not happy with subscriptions, but that is currently the only way I can give my users any privacy. But even with this I have to provide 2 Apps because there is no way to completely disable Ads on the Apple platform.
I would still call Spark a mail client. It's some software that offers you access to read and send emails. Calling the Spark app a "Spark client" doesn't really make any difference - I already agreed with you that Mimestream is using Gmail API to touch data, whereas most other mail clients use IMAP.You don’t fetch your mails from your mail provider. Instead you use another service that sits in between and stores and manages all mails for you.
Customer confusion and the belief that they are buying anew instead of an upgrade.You sound like you know quite a bit about this, so could you explain what the fundamental difference is between a paid upgrade and making a separate new app, eg Tweetbot 3 that effectively replaces Tweetbot 2 over time? Genuinely curious to understand.
That is a really good suggestion, I'll look into that. Thanks.I'm a fan of what Agenda does. Their model lets you use a base version for free, but you can pay to buy premium features that are released over the course of a year. Once that year passes, you KEEP the premium features you paid for, even if you stop paying. If/when more features are added that you like, you can subscribe again to get caught up. It's a nice middle ground between tradition paid releases and software rentals where you're left totally empty-handed the minute you stop renting the software.
There’s no way this is on Apple’s roadmap.Apps like these are doomed; it's very likely Apple's roadmap already includes those must-have features, and/or Apple will just imitate it after the fact. Seems like these kinds of apps/developers are hoping they'll be acquired, but Apple really only acquires companies with novel tech/patents or valuable IP.
I will say that Apple Mail is seriously due for some quality-of-life improvements.