I’m a Google Workspace user and it’s just a fantastic service that’s very much worth the money. That said it’s also a paid service and not the free gmail service monetized by collecting data (if you believe Google)
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Former Apple Engineer's Mimestream Gmail Client for Mac Gets Official Launch, Free Beta Access to End Tomorrow
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Sounds like most users are free Gmail users and don't know Google also offer paid services!
I'm already paying for Google Workspace for my business, happy to pay for a decent Mail client.
If that was Apple Mail, I'd be happy, but I constantly deal with issues from my clients with Apple Mail.
For $25 (I was beta tester), I'm happy. Not sure in a years's time if I'd pay $50.
I'm already paying for Google Workspace for my business, happy to pay for a decent Mail client.
If that was Apple Mail, I'd be happy, but I constantly deal with issues from my clients with Apple Mail.
For $25 (I was beta tester), I'm happy. Not sure in a years's time if I'd pay $50.
If you read my post I stated nothing about the difference, nor inference that this was not a native app, or any comparing I made. My very first sentence specifically mentions 'email clients' which means native app.
this native app is only heavily useful for those that use 1 or more Google email accounts, your reply is completely on another topic than mine for the most part.
API's are indeed used heavily across the web and the tech industry. Twitter fiasco is NOT unique and was not an issue due to mis-management and not out of being clueless (those are your personal feelings):
- API policy at Twitter has been change twice or more before and publicly documented.
- due to new ownership and management and necessity to bring profitability the API public access was cut: simple as that. 3rd party developers may/may-not have been paying for their use. If not paid, then the argument for discussion and negotiation could've been made for such expenses (to 3rd party developers) and revenues (to Twitter as a whole), yet with the current infrastructure twitter was loosing data metrics on many levels so it made sense to kill access. Maybe in a year it'll be offered with paid access and their infrastructure adjusted to tell:
how many clients are using said API
how many unique client users are bookmarking, what tags are being used layouts used on said products, etc.
BlackBerry had a unique set of API's that was not accessible without using their devices or server apps and for just over a decade was THE standard for Push email (up/down) and with Microsoft's initial 2nd gen entries into smartphone space helped their struggling ActiveSync evolved to become the global standard and open without cost to any client or web services UI. Anyone recall Groupwise - pretty much defunct now.
there are many many more which I'm not aware of but I'm sure there are issues with access to write several paragraphs of. Here we're focusing on Gmail and this native app.
It looked interesting till I saw it was only for Gmail. Also, a subscription for a mail app? This isn’t a mail service like Fastmail where is subscription makes sense, but this is just the app? Am I missing something?
I guess if it’s that good and you only use Gmail, then maybe pay for this? I have multiple different types of emails so this wouldn’t work for me even if I was willing to pay the subscription.
I guess if it’s that good and you only use Gmail, then maybe pay for this? I have multiple different types of emails so this wouldn’t work for me even if I was willing to pay the subscription.
I've been using Spark for years and I'm still more than happy with it. Talking about Spark 2, which is perfect. Spark 3 on the other hand is a horrible attempt to change things we're used to. Not good at all.
But the original Spark is still free and has all the features and more compared to Mail. And it looks better, IMO.
But the original Spark is still free and has all the features and more compared to Mail. And it looks better, IMO.
What are you talking about, it doesn’t have push notifications at all
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you should really take a minute and read the FAQ on the Mimestream website...
This is a desktop app, it runs locally and communicates with Google, nothing else.
Ha, only just learnt it had any form of notifications, wasn't aware as indeed my administrator has disabled IMAP... but yeah there is no infrastructure to maintain for this
I dumped 1Password for Bitwarden which does exactly the same job but is free.
I think the subscription boom is over as everyone is suffering with subscription fatigue & cutting back on subs left, right & centre. Apps that are real game changers or absolutely essential (Office 365) will pick up new subs & will have a very high renew rate, but no ones going to stampede to subscribe to a new email app, regardless of how good it is.
It would be interesting to find out what percentage of Spark users took out the premium subscription as they had years to build up a very loyal userbase. Even then I'm sure the numbers won't be anywhere close to being what they expected. Spark already sent me a survey about their v3 app and with the questions asked it's clear they are potentially considering ditching it if feedback is negative, which it will be.
For me as a business user subscription/license is the norm for a lot of valuable tools. Big and small.
If something is free I grow skeptical of continued support/maintenance - so many free/one-off-cost tools imploded over the years, causing a lot of other costs. Id prefer stability and a fair price to keep the dev in the game.
With that said, the subscription price here is silly as it’s more expensive/on par with the gsuite subscription which is orders of magnitude more valuable than this.
50 bucks a year for something that resembles Canary Mail, that I already have... forget it ...daaamn, it i also for Gmail ..... hell no.
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If you're going to pay a subscription fee for email, then don't use Gmail lol.
This is like the worst of both worlds.
This is like the worst of both worlds.
But if you really think about it, if someone is still using gmail, they probably don't have the sense to question the $50/year subscription. I think these folks will survive just fine. There are a lot of ignorant people in the world.
I think you miss that Google for business is a relatively big email player, not free, without ads.
Pretty much all non-enterprise-legacy companies that I’ve worked with use this instead of the Microsoft suite for email, spreadsheets, presentations, cloud storage and meetings. It’s a very good package for a significant market.
But your mileage may wary.
I do, but I am probably an outlier situation because of some weirdness of my work.
What's wrong with using Microsoft Windows? It does everything Mac OS does.
I wonder if you'll catch on...
Company I work for lives in Google Workspace .... and there are issues.... Offline capability to this day is garbage and requires too much effort in terms of administration, you loose internet, and experience is very different, immediately, while with MS is fine offline or online. Have you tried to process and load a google sheet with massive amount of data?
I am not saying, that G-Suite is crap, it's just for medium/small companies, allthoughi love my 16 GB RAM Chromebook they gave me, 16GB of ram on that thing is an overkill.
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According to the article, "the app is exclusively for accessing Gmail (support for other services is being considered) 👍."
So... in the near future, maybe not GMAIL exclusive?
They seek 50 bucks a year for a Gmail only app, i mean, that is something i would never pay... Airmail does everything exactly same way, and it can handle every email service.... Canary does it too. At the end of the day, for average user, stock Mail app will do the trick...
$50 a year? Fastmail, Protonmail, and others are less and they are an email service. $50 just for a man email client that’s Gmail only is steep.
Now whatever works for you, but the free version does not do “exactly” the same thing.
